The DotA Thread! [Basic Strats and Hero/Item talk]

[Dream_Walker]

Abbadon is still kinda crap. You can now toggle Borrowed Time to activate it manually, Mark of the Abyss gives +10% movespeed when you attack the Marked target, Aphotic Shield can remove negative buffs when you cast it, along with Borrowed Time.

 

[ChrisH36]

Heh, a neat way to remove those evil de-buffs without having to wait them off.

 

[ChrisH36]

Considering that you were facing nothing but agi and int heroes. Except for naix, but he has more agi than his strength.

 

[micro.micro]

+ 10 ms lollll....

if a slug moves 10% faster it doesn't make much of a diff...

 

[ChrisH36]

Are you kidding? Every bit of speed helps, ever seen a lycan transformed with Boots of Travel? That is like 500+ MS, he can easily chase down anything, except maybe Balanar at night with level 4 Night Hunter.

 

[Dream_Walker]

The typical build for him i guess is Boots of Travel, Sange and Yasha, and then Yasha. That combined with Mark of the Abyss would work wonders.

 

[ChrisH36]

It will take a lot of persuasion to get micro.micro to understand how much these improvements kind of help Avenrus.

 

[Vhinz]

The DotA Thread [Basic Strats and Other Stuff]

I need a lil assistance on the best build for Tiny..what items and skills to get first esp on 5 v 5....I heard it is better to get the ulti last and just the passive,stun and toss plus the stat bonus first so that he wouldnt slow down..

 

[Vhinz]

Hellwolf - Yes the Tinay Avatar would be perrrrfect! Thank a bunch!:yamer

Regarding the Battlefury..that would sound good but before I reach LVL 6..what should I buy for him first or should I stay away from getting that ult and stay with the normal skills first?:bugeyes

and since I am not a pro yet..I was wondering what weapons stack with what..what weapons are the "orbs" and what is not? sorry bout asking a lot..just want to get all these info into my system as soon as I could. :mean :mean :mean

 

[Wing Zero]

u just asked this in here http://www.battleforums.com/showthread.php?t=115445

 

[micro.micro]

yea ok i'm pursuaded. i was playing ab in a AR yesterday and he was actually pretty decent. he didn't even need BoT because SY and MoA was a good enough boost to help him out. if only his ult made him immune to magic that would be awesome. but yea he isn't so bad anymore i just wish his ult or slow were improved still. the worst heroes are now the 2 new heros :\

 

[Dream_Walker]

You underestimate Witch Doctor. Simply use Maledict correctly, and then use a Dagon on them. It's massive damage . Also, buy a Lothars on him. This way, you can channel Death Ward and be invisible at the same time.

 

[Dream_Walker]

~Merged with DotA discussion thread.

I heard it is better to get the ulti last and just the passive,stun and toss plus the stat bonus first so that he wouldnt slow down..

He doens't slow down, in fact he GAINS 5 movement speed every time he uses ultimate.

 

[micro.micro]

wait using lothar's doesn't break the channel of his ult? i'm sure doing anything while u are channeling would break ult.

 

[Dream_Walker]

It will not break his ultimate while he is channeling if he activates Lothars. Same with Rylai.

 

[micro.micro]

OMFG I HAVEN'T TRIED IT YET BUT I'LL TAKE YOUR WORD FOR IT WOW!!!! usually to use my ult i've had to have my allies around me to come up behind people or i have rasta/furion use their holding skill to pin down the hero for me to ult.

btw, do u know any other item combinations that aren't usually seen like that? the only one i can think of that i usually never see is 3 stouts on an axe. it stacks to 90% block rate so the creeps don't do anything and your counter helix goes off like crazy.

 

[ChrisH36]

I noticed Greg first do that when we used to play Aeon of the Gods. When he hit Hippo Rider, he would cloak her then summon forth Starfall. People would see the caster art, but couldn't attack him unless they had some stun aoe spell, the only one being Cluster Rockets.

 

[Dream_Walker]

Haha ya, i remember doing that with her. It was the best, but i could've swore WW broke channels, but i guess not. Twas' the fun days

Also, i would not WW her THEN do Starfall, I would Starfall then WW her.

Make sure you are already channeling Death Ward/Freezing Field before you do that, micro.micro. And if these 2 spells are channeling, I am pretty sure that Shackles, Dismember, and Fiends Grip could be the same way. I have yet to try it though.

 

[micro.micro]

works nicely. i've only tried it once and i got a bad score (8-8) because there was a clinkz and techie on my team so almost everyone on the other side got gems/wards so it was difficult to implement it but it works

 

[Dream_Walker]

I should play with you some time.