Depends on the individual person's morals, it's not against my morals at all.
Once again, if you bothered to read the thread at all, you'll see that is the only argument here. It cannot be 'proven' right or wrong. It can only be shown as right or wrong through your morals. I have said it so many times, but actually read the thread please.
Only you Bible hugging Catholics make it 'against your morals' Why the hell should you do what the Pope says, he can say anything he wants and put the words 'God said so' somewhere in there and you'd all do it in a heartbeat.
Read the link I gave you in the last post. Also, I wish everyone who claimed to be catholic would stick to the Vatican teaching. Point of this, don't stereotype, just because someone says they are something does not mean that they follow what it is they say they are.
And if you're in favor of 'population control' then 2 gay people doin' it shoulsd make oyu happy since they can **** their brasins out and never create a kid, thus preventing the population from growing,
I don't know who brought up population control, but it sure wasn't part of my argument.
I think a constitutional amendment to ban gay marraige is against the consitituion itself. 'All men are created equal' so why should homosexuals not be given the same rights as heterosexuals, if the Constitution says al men are created gays are completely entitled to the same rights straight people are.
All men are created equal. Just not all acts are allowed. I'll go back to my murder examples just because they are extreme. If someone wants to murder someone else but controls their urge and doesn't, do you have anything against that? (I don't) Does that make it unconstitutional for someone to have murder made illegal because they want to do it but can't due to a law. Now, if someone has homosexual urges, do you have anything against that? (I don't). In the exact same sense, I believe murder is morally wrong just as homosexuality it morally wrong. Maybe not to the same degree, but still wrong either way. I don't see why having homosexuality is any different than murder, they are both morally wrong in opinion.
so why should homosexuals not be given the same rights as heterosexuals, if the Constitution says al men are created gays are completely entitled to the same rights straight people are
They do have the same rights. Hetersexual people will not be able to have homosexual activities and will be able to have heterosexual activities, and homosexuals will be able to have heterosexual activities but not homosexual activities. They still have the exact same rights.
The fact of the matter is simple. We are talking about secular, State-issued marriage licenses. Regardless of where it originated, that is what we are talking about. Regardless if some religious nuts find it 'perverted' or 'disgusting'. And regardless if the large majority of America's population doesn't like it. Gay's marrying does not infringe on the rights of any other citizen and should not be outlawed. That is how our government is supposed to work. This is an issue that has NO PLACE in the voting booth.
I basically addressed this with the reasons why the church does not want homosexual marriage, it's a few posts up I think.
If two homosexual's decide they wish to take a step and marry, GOOD FOR THEM. There aren't any cameras in their bedrooms taping and forcing everyone else to watch and enjoy. It is their private, consentual, and mature decision for themselves. No different than an 18 year old girl and a 80 year old man. If they want to, GOOD FOR THEM. Let's all stay out of their bedrooms. No one is being 'corrupted' by this. It affects me none.
No one is being corrupted, but a thing is being corrupted. Allowing homosexuals to marry is itself against the Christain definition of marriage and it defiles the sacrament of marriage.
Their is no argument against homosexual marriages beyond the Bible and religious tradition. And as I recall, prayer isn't allowed in schools. This is a debate that shouldn't even be a debate. There is no debate.
I agree with this completely, it is my beliefs/morals/ideas against your belifs/morals/ideas and niether can be proven wrong. This thread died after 7 pages and should have stayed dead because guess what, you can't prove me wrong and I can't prove you wrong. Please just let this thread die, niether side can be won!
