The DotA Thread! [Basic Strats and Hero/Item talk]

[Dream_Walker]

Yes it is real, but it is an old and buggy version. I wouldn't play it, because I doubt they will keep everything that was presented in it. And to top it off, Dragon Knight will NOT be remade for 6.30. So says IceFrog.

 

[Dream_Walker]

LOLOL U SHULD MERGE DIS WIT DA OTHER DOTA THRAD!!!

Yes, we should.
~Merged.

 

[micro.micro]

i'm glad they're not remaking dragon knight. i love playin him. if he went all immolation + dragon greed just taking a step backwards to the old DK i would have really been confused on why they even bothered to change him in the first place....

i think that dragon greed should replace the stun OR keep immo and the stun and replace it with dragon blood and change his ult to a melee mode with a hp or higher ms increase (kinda like a sentinel lycanthrope)

 

[XDxxTX]

U guys are probly gonna think im addicted to teh old dota now but man DK was kinda crap in 3.7 at the start until he was lvl 6 then he would own towers by him self. He jsut needed gloves of haste majorely at teh start of game or else he got wasted by creeps!

 

[Dream_Walker]

That is what i thought. He is basically the same as in earlier versions, but it doesnt really matter now. He is not being remade.

Heh, what do you guys think of Ogre Magi?

 

[ChrisH36]

The old DK was about farming more than he was a phat tank. Hell, getting Battlefury with the old Dragon Knight was probably the best thing to do.

I think now we will stop merging dota topics into one thread, if it is hero related, then do so. If it isn't then don't.

 

[micro.micro]

ogre magi? i hate playing him. i know he is good but i never get a multicast while other players can multicast like crazy without a scept -.-

 

[Dream_Walker]

ogre magi? i hate playing him. i know he is good but i never get a multicast while other players can multicast like crazy without a scept -.-

Thats why you rush to Aghanims Scepter, . I get Multicasts like crazy with him.

 

[micro.micro]

that's what i'm trying to say. i have the worst luck with him. even with scept I NEVER multicast. i've played 4-5 games with him getting a scept pretty early and he RARELY multicasted. i've played a bunch of games where ppl that didn't get a scept but went guinsoo instead still got more multicasting than i did. i really started hating magi when in a game that i was playing, i was PA chasing a ogre with 1/4 of his life. he had no scept yet he multicasted 4 TIMES IN A ROW!!! WTF!!! i had to run back on the 4th cast or i would have died so he could have had a 5th if i gave him the chance -.-

 

[Dream_Walker]

I think its because (this is a rumor) you have to stand still/fully complete casting to multicast?

 

[ChrisH36]

Which is why you cannot be stunned in the process. By the way, nice Tank from Metal Slug X micro .

 

[micro.micro]

thanks. this is from a game i just had today, i didn't multicast at all the entire game (other than a few modest casts when i finally got my scepter). without the scept i never casted multi. we nearly lost because of my bad luck but managed to pull through (i would post the replay but the gameplay was nothing to be proud of.)

 

[XDxxTX]

ive heard good stuff about him and how he can "own"but yeha ive never ever played him lol. but i got a different hero now
the naga siren ive been told to get basher and the phantoms so that they all have bash then it has like an ULTIMATE stun so what other items can i get after basher ????

 

[micro.micro]

lol. you should NEVER get bashers on image heroes like naga, lancer, terrorblade, ect....

the images will NOT bash. it looks like they've bashed but they haven't. and while the fake bash is in place, the real hero can't place a bash in.

i recommend a SY on naga. same build as SA. RoR treads & SY are good enough for me. some ppl prefer getting manta on her but i don't really see the point since her skill mirror image is a manta itself. just a waste of money as opposed to the images maiming. the images get really buffed up when i use a SY on her. i've tried a manta and it works out fine but she is very vulnerable to being killed since you can't really do much until you get the diffusal completed. w/e works better for you. but one thing you should never get is a basher.

 

[XDxxTX]

Ok thanks. Now someone else pick a hero please ive asked laot but i jsut want to get to know allt hem now so im gonna do random so someoen else jsut start discussing a hero at random please.

 

[ChrisH36]

Me and Greg (Dream_walker) wrote like guides for 5 of the heroes. I only wrote one on Lycan.

 

[Dream_Walker]

lol. you should NEVER get bashers on image heroes like naga, lancer, terrorblade, ect....

the images will NOT bash. it looks like they've bashed but they haven't. and while the fake bash is in place, the real hero can't place a bash in.

i recommend a SY on naga. same build as SA. RoR treads & SY are good enough for me. some ppl prefer getting manta on her but i don't really see the point since her skill mirror image is a manta itself. just a waste of money as opposed to the images maiming. the images get really buffed up when i use a SY on her. i've tried a manta and it works out fine but she is very vulnerable to being killed since you can't really do much until you get the diffusal completed. w/e works better for you. but one thing you should never get is a basher.

WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF NOOB.

NEVER EVER EVER GET S&Y ON NAGA. MANTA AWS SO MADE FOR HER.

(sorry for flame but no offense :O)

 

[ChrisH36]

Well, face it.. whats worse: Having a naga that can do maims or fighting 3 nagas together.

 

[micro.micro]

na SY FTW!

everyone has their opinion and i say SY pwns it. i prefer SY on her anyday. other heroes like lancer and terror get manta for me but occasionally i'll get the SY build on terror too. i just feel like it works better for me because the odds of landing one maim while the person is netted with all of the images owning the guy are pretty good and once the net is gone thye will be slowed.

honestly, i think the time it takes to cast mirror + manta is time lost unless you want to ult + manta + mirror + net just for one guy which seems like overkill to me.

 

[Dream_Walker]

S&Y on her sucks. I have lost all respect for you. Because, the only thing that kills her late game is AOE (spells like Freezing Field) and they can cast that if you go S&Y, but not if you go Manta. Seriously, IMO, the only good Naga, is a Manta Naga.