TrongaMonga
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I didn't said try their luck by invanding...
Discust with Illegal Aliens
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jaguar291
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Although, thats what it sounds like you meant, many people, myself included, don't want them here illegally... they can enter the country legally through various ways but when they hop the boarders, work for dirt, suck off Medicare, and then reproduce like ants, I DO have a problem...
TrongaMonga
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I understand the stuff... But hating them will not solve one single thing, as you know.
Forged
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Is it because you are a racist peace of shit?
jaguar291
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No, but sitting down and not doing a damn thing as they invade isn't the solution either...
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okay im going to add to this...
if you believe indians were never a threat, you are wrong. if you farmed in the great planes, you were in constant fear of being killed by an indian raid. It happend, you walk outside to feed your dog and an indian raider shoots you down and steals your stuff.
Yes we have resources, but we fought and bought those resources. The louisiana purchase for the missisippi lands, and then past there, fighting with mexico-indians. And if you think USA is just about as big as Europe, and when people get towards the center of the usa, dont you think it would have been hard to find resources since USA at the time was only about 50 years old?
USA is about the size of Germany, Spain, and France put together with a desert and large area of mountains that cut through the western portion of USA. So it really isnt that big.
Your country had lots of resources by the 1700's due to the fact they had imperialist coloniesl. That adds to the size of portugal, but were the colonies true portugese citizens? did they participate in portugal politics? USA sure didnt when we had our 13 colonies.
As i said, the size of most of europe, not all. When the roman empire stretched throughout europe, did it have to worry about resources? no....
if you believe indians were never a threat, you are wrong. if you farmed in the great planes, you were in constant fear of being killed by an indian raid. It happend, you walk outside to feed your dog and an indian raider shoots you down and steals your stuff.
Yes we have resources, but we fought and bought those resources. The louisiana purchase for the missisippi lands, and then past there, fighting with mexico-indians. And if you think USA is just about as big as Europe, and when people get towards the center of the usa, dont you think it would have been hard to find resources since USA at the time was only about 50 years old?
USA is about the size of Germany, Spain, and France put together with a desert and large area of mountains that cut through the western portion of USA. So it really isnt that big.
Your country had lots of resources by the 1700's due to the fact they had imperialist coloniesl. That adds to the size of portugal, but were the colonies true portugese citizens? did they participate in portugal politics? USA sure didnt when we had our 13 colonies.
As i said, the size of most of europe, not all. When the roman empire stretched throughout europe, did it have to worry about resources? no....
Forged
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Why would the indians do that? Could it be because we made them sign fake treatys, stole their land, and massacred them.
You're damn right they fought back...
You're damn right they fought back...
BushForEmperor
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I dont hate them, i just get angry when they take our medicare, welfare, and social security money.
TrongaMonga
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Yes, it's true, the indians killed farmers, forgot that 
But we also fought hard for our resources.We had to discover the seas (if you don't know, we started the European expansion, the Discoveries, thus the world as it's known now), and many ships sunk and the people there died... In the colonies, there was always the risk of people dying, under atacks of African tribes, muslims, etc, etc.
Germany, Spain, and France is actually a big territory... And you got gold, that allowed you to buy the rest...
And, well, it was a monarchy, I can't say that they participated in Portugal politics. Unless we count the vice-king of the Portuguese Empire in Asia, who had to be carefull not to piss the muslims and cause a Jihad. As you may know, it's hard.
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I didn't said stealing, but isn't it truth that most companies to rebuild Iraq are Americans? Wait some months and the Oil companys will go there.
But we also fought hard for our resources.We had to discover the seas (if you don't know, we started the European expansion, the Discoveries, thus the world as it's known now), and many ships sunk and the people there died... In the colonies, there was always the risk of people dying, under atacks of African tribes, muslims, etc, etc.
Germany, Spain, and France is actually a big territory... And you got gold, that allowed you to buy the rest...
And, well, it was a monarchy, I can't say that they participated in Portugal politics. Unless we count the vice-king of the Portuguese Empire in Asia, who had to be carefull not to piss the muslims and cause a Jihad. As you may know, it's hard.
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I didn't said stealing, but isn't it truth that most companies to rebuild Iraq are Americans? Wait some months and the Oil companys will go there.
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yeah they did
made your point
compared to rest of europe? if you concider true europe, that chunk of russian that sits there next to poland, poland, and the slavic countries alone are bigger than france germany and spain. then theirs southern europe, and northern europe. Europe is also diverse so that can be a problem with economics huh?
made my point those damn jihads...(not being rasicst or at least trying not to be....)
Im not so sure, its also austrailian, possibly japanese, UK, and a few other countries that supported the war. and espcially now that the US asked the UN to step in and help. i dont think it will happen.
made your point
compared to rest of europe? if you concider true europe, that chunk of russian that sits there next to poland, poland, and the slavic countries alone are bigger than france germany and spain. then theirs southern europe, and northern europe. Europe is also diverse so that can be a problem with economics huh?
made my point
those damn jihads...(not being rasicst or at least trying not to be....)Im not so sure, its also austrailian, possibly japanese, UK, and a few other countries that supported the war. and espcially now that the US asked the UN to step in and help. i dont think it will happen.
TrongaMonga
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Well, considering they advanced with the UN authorization (that was required), and now they need help to clean the corners, yea...
Btw, remember, the European currency, the Euro, is stronger than the American dollar
Btw, remember, the European currency, the Euro, is stronger than the American dollar
BushForEmperor
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True that most companies there are American, but thats because we earned it. We're not going to give up those positions to assclowns like France and Germany. Those two want to profit off the blood of Americans. You can assume the oil companies will go there, but ive been hearing that since march 2003. If American oil companies actually do go there, we will buy it. We don't want(just like your country back when it was in its golden age) an even bigger jihad against us. We have enough muslims trying to kill us. We don't want to loose the support from the few middle east countries that actually really do support us.
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werent there problems when europe transferred the euro? cus ive been told that the worth of the euro was very low due to the worth of money in other countries, cuz if you live in germany with your currency and its worth 10 of your currency less that 1 pound, then there are going to be problems cuz now you get a euro thats probably going to be worth about 10 pounds then you just made 9 euros outta it.
TrongaMonga
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Why should you have deserved it? You openly went to another country, invaded it, and, with the excuse of freeing it (which the Iraqi people themselves are not that happy), stayed there...
And there might have been some troubles, but, so what? It's still stronger.
And there might have been some troubles, but, so what? It's still stronger.
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didnt say that so it doenst aplict to me
oh well, dollar is still accepted practically everywhere.
oh well, dollar is still accepted practically everywhere.
TrongaMonga
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Meh, forgot to add who I was talking to
Yea, it's accepted everywhere, no wonder. But the Euro's new, only has two years...
Yea, it's accepted everywhere, no wonder. But the Euro's new, only has two years...
Kuzmich
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If those people leave their countries, they are traitors, they dont deserve to live.
TrongaMonga
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But if they stay in their country, they are poor, they can't live.
So, which one will it be?
So, which one will it be?
Kuzmich
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Stay in your country, you will live poorly but at least you will live right.
TrongaMonga
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Live right? Define right... According to the right values? I thought the right to a decent life, with dignity, was universal...
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