Discust with Illegal Aliens

[Forged]

Just out of curiousty what do you guys consider yourselves?

You do realize we ran away from Europe because of problems there correct? So by your logic the only people who should be given rights are the indians that crossed the bridge an estimated 9,000 years ago correct?

 

[LawrenceOfArabia]

Originally posted by CelestialBadger


EDIT:
What the hell are you talking about? I've visited Mexico and you're telling me that Mexicans shoot anyone who crosses the border? Are you just making shit up?

i meant southern border....and its illegal southamericans


edit....

forged, i consider myself a white american citizen.

tronga, most people dont like the idea of other people living off of their hard work, what that means is, i dont want to pay taxes that are going to help educate a kid that isnt even an american living in america.

 

[BushForEmperor]

Originally posted by CelestialBadger
I didn't spin your words around. You implied here that Mexicans take our jobs and opportunities. As Treefrog said, work harder. Now you're saying that they take jobs from laid-off lazy Americans. What are we supposed to do? Coax lazy Americans to work? Offer extra incentives for working if you're an American? Sure Mexicans get jobs over lazy Americans because....the Mexicans aren't lazy.

Your doing it again. I didn't say all Americans that get their jobs taken are fat and lazy. Im complaining for the ones who arent fat and lazy do work. I dont care about the lazy ones. Let the immigrants(as long as they come in legally) take their jobs, not the ones from hard working Americans.

 

[CelestialBadger]

LAWRENCE: My mistake, I see that now looking back at your post. Forgive me.

BUSH: Okay, but we've already established that the only incentive for hiring Mexicans is that they can hire them for cheaper. Maybe the government should crack down on company's hiring immigrants off the record at lower prices and enforce the minimum wage better. It wouldn't be true capitalism, but it would solve the problem.

 

[BushForEmperor]

Originally posted by Forged
Just out of curiousty what do you guys consider yourselves?

You do realize we ran away from Europe because of problems there correct? So by your logic the only people who should be given rights are the indians that crossed the bridge an estimated 9,000 years ago correct?

Actually, i believe it was 12,000 years ago. Im positive the Indians complained as I am now, except there is one difference, we have the power to stop this. They did not.

 

[LawrenceOfArabia]

Originally posted by CelestialBadger
LAWRENCE: My mistake, I see that now looking back at your post. Forgive me.

no problem, simple misunderstanding, + it was my fault for not clearly stating what i meant.

 

[Forged]

Sorry I am not good with dates.

You are right they didn't have the power we killed them all....

 

[jaguar291]

Originally posted by Forged
Just out of curiousty what do you guys consider yourselves?

You do realize we ran away from Europe because of problems there correct? So by your logic the only people who should be given rights are the indians that crossed the bridge an estimated 9,000 years ago correct?

I consider myself an American who thinks that immigration has gone past its prime... the must be a limit to it...

No, by my logic, immigration has done what it needed to do and now it is time for the people of the world looking for a better ride to look elsewhere, our country has problems as it is and the last thing we need is illegal people increasing the crime rate and taking jobs that lower class and uneducated people that are legal need...

 

[amrtin77]

no, hes still wrong forged. so a mexican gets a toughass job for very low pay, i bet you could get that same job just as easy as the mexican, you just dont want to. face it, we NEED this cheap labor. you really think any natural born americans are willing to work for below minimum wage? i see either us letting these people in or more of our compaines shipping out of the united states for cheap labor. if working here for nothing is a better life than what they lived, by all means let them in.

bushforemporer, thats a load of shit and you know it. give me one REAL reason that we should stop them from comnig into our country. ONE.


we have our own problems? were doing fine. were the richest most powerful nation on this planet, if were not fit to help these people out who the **** is?

 

[BushForEmperor]

Originally posted by CelestialBadger

BUSH: Okay, but we've already established that the only incentive for hiring Mexicans is that they can hire them for cheaper. Maybe the government should crack down on company's hiring immigrants off the record at lower prices and enforce the minimum wage better. It wouldn't be true capitalism, but it would solve the problem.

Ok good, we have an understanding thats all I ask for.

 

[Forged]

I am 17, and I have no problem finding a job so I some how don't think it would be hard for a grown man in need to get the same job. They just don't want to work at a low income job such as Target or Walmart...

 

[BushForEmperor]

Originally posted by Forged
Sorry I am not good with dates.

You are right they didn't have the power we killed them all....

Its alright about the dates, those can get confusing. And I agree, killing off the Indians was a bad idea and a very dark area in our nations history.

amrtin77-Please look at and read the previous posts. Your answer is in them.

 

[Tempest Storm]

Originally posted by jaguar291
Just reading your post has seriously made me dumber... ugh... people like you are a disgrace to the the name Republican and what it what stands for... learn to argue a point or a belief using support... you are trying to make an arguement with absolutely nothing to support it and you're suprised that you're called a racist. You sound like a total jackass... delete your idiotic post and spare yourself the embarrasment... ugh... you've led me to create a new word, "****tard", a combination of "****ing retard", words that describe you perfectly...

Let me get this straight, you're calling him a ****tard (and I'm not saying he isn't) while at the same time, you have Savage's gay bashing quote in your sig. Correct me if I'm misunderstanding this, but can you say hypocracy.

Personally, I kinda like Bush's plan for the aliens. If they turn themselves in and get registered, they become legal. Not citizens, but they are allowed to stay without fear of deportation. Though, I don't support giving them welfare or letting them recieve any other government handouts.

 

[amrtin77]

i got

1) they are stealing our jobs
do you know any american who wants to work their asses off for less than minimum wage? the mexicans are taking jobs we dont want.



2)national secutiry
no... you can easily get in our country legally if you want and still be a terrorist. nothing can ever stop terrorism.

 

[jaguar291]

Originally posted by Spike~
Let me get this straight, you're calling him a ****tard (and I'm not saying he isn't) while at the same time, you have Savage's gay bashing quote in your sig. Correct me if I'm misunderstanding this, but can you say hypocracy.

Humm... if you want to turn this into why I think being a fag is wrong, by all means I'll explain myself... I thought Savage's counter-attack on a gay caller was well stated and because I have an anti-gay quote in my signature doesn't mean I can't defend it... I just choose to stay on topic...

Last post for tonight..

 

[LawrenceOfArabia]

Originally posted by amrtin77
i got

1) they are stealing our jobs
do you know any american who wants to work their asses off for less than minimum wage? the mexicans are taking jobs we dont want.



2)national secutiry
no... you can easily get in our country legally if you want and still be a terrorist. nothing can ever stop terrorism.

1) hey, maybe america should get a workers permit kinda thing where employers for jobs that most people dont want go into mexico and hire a 100 mexicans to pick cherries or the like for $X for each mexican, and then when done, take em back.

2. it is possible to stop terrorism, all you have to do is have every nation of the world happy communist nations.

 

[amrtin77]

we already have a problem with that. our companies are leaving america for cheap labor.

and no, terrorism cannot be stopped in the real world, quit being stupid. as long as someone has the will to kill a bunch of people he dont like, he'll find a way to do it. we can kill the fears of terrorism, but never kill terrorism itself.

 

[BushForEmperor]

Originally posted by Spike~

Personally, I kinda like Bush's plan for the aliens. If they turn themselves in and get registered, they become legal. Not citizens, but they are allowed to stay without fear of deportation. Though, I don't support giving them welfare or letting them recieve any other government handouts.

I agree with you in not giving them welfare or handouts, but not the turning them in part. That would just encourage more illegals to get in and turn themselves in very quickly. Just my thoughts...

 

[Tempest Storm]

Originally posted by jaguar291
Humm... if you want to turn into why I think being a fag is wrong, by all means I'll explain myself... I thought Savage's counter-attack on a gay caller was well stated and because I have an anti-gay quote in my signature doesn't mean I can't defend it... I just choose to stay on topic...

Don't refer to them as fags. Gays, queers, homos, are fine, but I don't tolerate "fags". And, just for laughs, I would to hear what you have to say about homosexuality. I'm sure you've noticed the thread about it allready, so just direct your comments in there.

I agree with you in not giving them welfare or handouts, but not the turning them in part. That would just encourage more illegals to get in and turn themselves in very quickly. Just my thoughts...

Well, if they come in and turn themselves in shortly thereafter, I don't really see what the problem is.

 

[LawrenceOfArabia]

Originally posted by amrtin77


and no, terrorism cannot be stopped in the real world, quit being stupid. as long as someone has the will to kill a bunch of people he dont like, he'll find a way to do it. we can kill the fears of terrorism, but never kill terrorism itself.

Main Entry: ter·ror
Pronunciation: 'ter-&r
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French terreur, from Latin terror, from terrEre to frighten; akin to Greek trein to be afraid, flee, tremein to tremble -- more at TREMBLE
Date: 14th century
1 : a state of intense fear
2 a : one that inspires fear : SCOURGE b : a frightening aspect <the terrors of invasion> c : a cause of anxiety : WORRY d : an appalling person or thing; especially : BRAT
3 : REIGN OF TERROR
4 : violence (as bombing) committed by groups in order to intimidate a population or government into granting their demands <insurrection and revolutionary terror>

Main Entry: ter·ror·ism
Pronunciation: 'ter-&r-"i-z&m
Function: noun
Date: 1795
: the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion
- ter·ror·ist /-&r-ist/ adjective or noun
- ter·ror·is·tic /"ter-&r-'is-tik/ adjective

if there is no fear there is no terrorism. and that is mass murder not terrorism.