Since once again you have somehow managed to skip both my and Undead Cheese's post, I will quote them for you. My post said:
"Please read my posts. You have a nack for reading only what you want to read. If you bothered reading my posts, I have already posted this twice, and this will be the third time:
"Since I am guessing you are too busy not looking at the 'entirety' of the argument, then I'll put it here for you. Okay, if I will must, I will explain to you my reasoning once again. Here we go. First off, the United States considers an alien “any person not a citizen or national of the United Statesâ€. You can consider an unborn baby not a citizen or national of the United States, as you have stubbornly pointed out over and over again, but guess what, it doesn’t matter. I keep telling you over and over again that it doesn’t matter. First off, Plyler vs Doe gave aliens protected under the Equal Protection Clause. That itself should be enough. There are a few other court cases such as Yick Wo vs Hopkins which further the rights of aliens, but that really doesn’t matter to you, now does it. As I said, I read the constitution and I see what the court says about it, I look at it in the ‘entirety’ not what you are doing by just starring at the constitution and interpreting it to what you want. I look at what our legal system says it means."
Point being, yes you are right that the United States does not give you rights unless you are a citizen, but it doesn't matter. Did you ever think of the grand idea that people other than Americans deserve rights?"
I am getting tired to quoting 'myself'.
Undead Cheese said to read the part of his post that was in orange.
lizardbreath said:
Even though I was attempting to let you comprehend how the United States Constitution alone protected unborn babies, since you asked for a point, I will give it to you. The United Nations has this fairly important document called the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which you probably should have heard of before. A copy of it can be found
here. Now, to pick out something for you:
In the preamble it says:
"Whereas Member States have pledged themselves to achieve, in co-operation with the United Nations, the promotion of universal respect for and observance of human rights and fundamental freedoms," meaning the United States, as a member of the United Nations has pledged to have respect and observance of human rights and fundamental freedoms.
To go into the actual articles:
"Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person." Everyone meaning everyone. Everyone from a retired grandfather to an unborn child. Every single human, and yes an unborn baby is genetically identical to us, making it human, is guarenteed rights by the United Nations.
If you are going to bring up article 1 where it says born, then read this (Article 2):
"Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty."
I think that is his point.
