Who is the Greatest Man of All Time?

[BH_Naft]

Bruce Johnson

 

[bamthedoc]

Originally posted by Black~Enthusiasm
I'd go for marx. Think of what communism did.

What? Die before it could be brought to fruition? There have been zero communist states, only states that have failed to leave socialialism.

 

[Kevnii]

I'd have to say, Julius Ceasar was one of the greatest figures in human history. He concured most of europe right? If not him J.R.Tolkein(sp?) because he knew so much and produced, i believe one of the best pieces of literature in history.

 

[XenoDancer]

Im sorry, but Lincoln shouldn't be on that list, nothing America has done has influenced the world in a huge way.
The greatest impact an American has made was Alan Alda of the tv show MASH, it defined television and shaped pop culture along with its views on vietnam and truman.

 

[DigitalElite]

I agree with XenoDancer, Adolf Hitler also got a whole country to back him up and he didnthave to use money like todays politicians

 

[GsVi-Miles]

i thought this thread was who is the greatest man of all time not who influenced the world the most

 

[ZeroX]

oh i know!!! adam!!

 

[bamthedoc]

Okay, XenoDancer, I'll take your "so-called" challange here. I'll name American's who have shaped the world:

Ben Franklin--inventions
Thomas Edison--inventions
The Wright Brothers--airplane
Martin Luther King Jr.--part of the protesters in South Africa's campaign and other places
Men and Women of the Women's Rights Movement in the US--guess
George Washington--military tactics
Thomas Jefferson--constitution
Albert Einstein--physics
Henry Ford--revolutionized manufacturing
Bill Gates--revolutionized computing
Dell--again, revolutionized computing
Plenty more scientists, but that list will get long

Do I need go on?

 

[Galatia]

Albert Einstein was German - but this doesnt change the fact that he and Thomas Edison *shaped* the world we live in today.

 

[XenoDancer]

Thomas Alva Edison was not an inventor or scientist, he was a tinkerer. It took him 2000 tries to get a lightbulb to work; what a great scientist (sarcasm).

 

[GsVi-Miles]

at least he got it to work lol

 

[XenoDancer]

Ben Franklin--inventions-- was british first, schooled in britain
Thomas Edison--inventions- tinkerer
The Wright Brothers--airplane-- airplane had already been invented
Martin Luther King Jr.--part of the protesters in South Africa's campaign and other places- ghandi made more of an impact, luther whined
Men and Women of the Women's Rights Movement in the US-- happened almost everywhere
George Washington--military tactics- he defeated a bunch of mercenaries from germany and france, there were less than 100 english infantry in America fighting
Thomas Jefferson--constitution-- congrats on doing what 90 other countries have done
Albert Einstein--physics-- german
Henry Ford--revolutionized manufacturing- how?
Bill Gates--revolutionized computing- germans did not him
Dell--again, revolutionized computing- again

 

[Kevnii]

xeno- excuses excuses,
ben franklin -was an american citizen
thomas edison -was a great inventor(a part of science is experimenting over and over again, whether it takes 200 or 2 million trys)
-Can't comment on the wright brothers, don't know much except that they invented the airplane.
Explain- where else was the Womens' rights moverment going on which out does the one in the US.
George Washington- lol
-Could an average person write a contustitution as good as the one Jefferson wrote? no, because it takes a lot of intellect and smarts, i'd say genious and heat resistence.
-Albert Einstein was an american citizen. Every american can be called french, german, english, or spanish, as far as i know, except if your full blooded indian but they're all American.lol
-Henry Ford- he built cars for the everyday middle class people right?

safe to say- i think your making up little excuses to degrade American history, but hey it's your right and opinion, right?

oh yeah, i think A.Hitler was an extreme wako, but evenwako's can be smart at times, they're just not good friends. lol

 

[Hanzzo]

why is that all the great military genius always end up failing to conquer Russia??? that cold cold place haha, i feel sorry for napoleon and hitler


i think einstein was 1 of the most important person, quantum physics, nuclear physics was the key to the invention of nuclear missile which ultimately leads to the fact that humans now have the ability ot destroy themselves, or even blow up the planet!!!

too bad einstein couldn't live long enough to finish his theory on cold fusion... oh well

 

[bamthedoc]

why is that all the great military genius always end up failing to conquer Russia??? that cold cold place haha, i feel sorry for napoleon and hitler

Two words: General Winter

too bad einstein couldn't live long enough to finish his theory on cold fusion

He concluded it was impossible

Ben Franklin--inventions-- was british first, schooled in britain
Thomas Edison--inventions- tinkerer
The Wright Brothers--airplane-- airplane had already been invented
Martin Luther King Jr.--part of the protesters in South Africa's campaign and other places- ghandi made more of an impact, luther whined
Men and Women of the Women's Rights Movement in the US-- happened almost everywhere
George Washington--military tactics- he defeated a bunch of mercenaries from germany and france, there were less than 100 english infantry in America fighting
Thomas Jefferson--constitution-- congrats on doing what 90 other countries have done
Albert Einstein--physics-- german
Henry Ford--revolutionized manufacturing- how?
Bill Gates--revolutionized computing- germans did not him
Dell--again, revolutionized computing- again

Oh? And idiot? Maybe I shouldn't argue with you... But...oh well...

Ben Franklin was an American citizen. Want to get technical? I'm German/Czech/Irish and half a dozen other European things. Go figure.
Thomas Edison was a scientist. Anyone who "tinkers" and invents something is a scientist. It took research and experimentation to invent the lightbulb. Oh! And it took a little luck and help. He and a black man (who didn't take credit due to the fact that it would discredit the invention) discovered, guess what, cotton was the secret ingredient. He made many more discoveries than that, too. Read some history, why don't you?
Martin Luther King Jr. may not have had as much of an impact as Gahndi, but he did have a major world impact.
Leonardo de Vinci conceptualized the airplane. The Wright Brothers invented it.
George Washington was a military tactical genious. He beat more than "100 regular infantry", you can tell by both US and British history.
Thomas Jefferson's constitution has been addapted by more than a dozen countries, including those who already had one. Do I need to state the obvious?
Albert Einstein called himself an American in public a lot. He was, officially, an American citizen.
Henry Ford invented the assembly line. It affected more than just cars.
Bill Gates created Windows, enhanced the GUI that Apple created, they are leaders of XML, and other things. Germans have had revolutions for computers, but anyone can.
Dell made computers more affordable. His company is the most popular in the world along with IBM and...someone else. Both American companies if you notice.

XenoDancer I hope you have something better than your previous arguement. You make yourself sound...wel...dumb. I can tell you haven't looked much into this actual subject. Pick up a history book one day and do something revolutionary, read. Oh! And I've read more than the junk you'd find in school. Those are biased.

 

[XenoDancer]

I said English soldiers 0_o, it is funny watching the movie the Patriot, showing all the red coats, when in fact, there were no red coats in the USA.

Bill Gates didn't invent windows, he invented DOS, so don't be a dumbass and throw shit out.

Btw. the black guy was George Washington Carver

 

[bamthedoc]

I said created. That can be quite different from invented.

No, it was not George Washington Carver. He has the peanut stuff. The guy that helped Thomas Edison was supposedly unnamed, but I found his name at one point. I have forgotten it by now.

The Patriot was off in the "sheer number" department, but there were several thousand regulars. You can read a British history book and find that fact.

 

[XenoDancer]

Because of the many pms I am recieving about me being Anti-American, no I am not

 

[bamthedoc]

I never PMed you (duh! you know that...). I never exactly assumed that, but it didn't appear that you had all your facts. I was asking simply that you get them together before you post. I like a good discussion, but that of lackluster facts is never good. You see what my biggest problem was now? And, people, don't assume "anti-American" because of a few "excuses" or bad facts.

I'll try to protect you a bit, XenoDancer. You sound like you have promise. Notwithstanding previous statements.

Later! I'm out!
~~BAM the DOC

 

[foolz]

hew hephner for making porn what it is today.