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[shrimpshark]

But mutas and gards do

 

[Emperor Pan I]

First off

Originally posted by shrimpshark
OMFG how bad were these kids to let you get bcs if I saw you were getting bcs youd be dead in a sec i'd rush you with lings before the bcs could arrive

well Mr. maphack, you wouldn't "see" i was getting BC because you would probably be gettin multiple tank drops, valks killing your overlords, or various other strategys while i am kicking your ass. un less you have a little insight with the maphacks, thats not a good thing to admit just to let you know.

 

[shrimpshark]

Ur forging paresit and a burrowed lurker that is told to hold pos can serve as sight help.

 

[SkuZZy]

Originally posted by shrimpshark
But mutas and gards do

And you'd beable to get guardians before he got BC's ???

 

[shrimpshark]

It matters. can u send me the replay and ill tell u what i think.

 

[Emperor Pan I]

realy?

Originally posted by shrimpshark
Ur forging paresit and a burrowed lurker that is told to hold pos can serve as sight help.

so im forging the parasites and lurkers am i? interesting, never knew you could forge. anyways my detectors would catch a lurkers, and im not a moron, id see if u have a parasite and i d heal my guy w/medic.

 

[shrimpshark]

What if my ally was terren id have him do a scan!

 

[AKA-47]

Re: Re: Well...

Welll you got it all figured out I guess. Most people who go BC's will get a few bunkers and marines though and even tanks, so hydras and lings won't do much against them.

No, most players who go BCs only make them in late game, and they make other units in early/mid game when they cant afford BCs.

 

[Remiraz]

Re: Re: Re: actuly,

Originally posted by pan_the_man
well you should. i have played starcraft for about 5 years now. i know what the game is all about. and i intend to defend my posts.

I played Starcraft since the day it came out.
But I still dare not say that "I know what the game is all about".
Am I a good player?
Probably not.
But the points I raised up here and throughout the forums aren't "pro gamers" information, they're the BASICS.

actualy i wasn't just sitting there. i made sure i had plenty defence, and i was building up on an attack. also add in the fact i need to expand, so they can't.

"Making sure that you had plenty of defence while building up to 30 Battlecruisers" is what I call "sitting there".
In SC, if you don't attack, you die.
You could defend all you want and they'll pick your defences apart if you don't pressure your opponents.

Hmm why didn't i think of that? maybe because i was maxed out 200/200. and that was after all my attacks and the closing of the game. had some 50+ SCV getting that money.

Hmmm sounds like they were newbies, letting you get 200/200 when its a TWO VERSUS ONE!

I can't see what newbies have to do with me taking the whole map. I owned 75% of the map. by the time they had to expand i had already drained the minerals. They wern't newbies because when they went to expand i was already there. u refer to newbies not expanding at all.

When you play enough games with good players, you'll realise that no good player will ever let you "owned 75% of the map" without resistance.
AND its a TWO VERSUS ONE for God's sake.
You mean you can survive TWO good players constantly harassing and attacking your main + expansion every single minute of the way AND still deny them expansion??

Now do you see what newbies have to do with it?

great plan, i know, i should have attacked with my SCVs or better yet my marines and ghosts in the bunker thats defending me, so i can attack with infintry and get my ass attacked by the other guy. yep i see u r realy making a point here. also i dont attack with my defence, my valkyries dont attack ground so i cant attack with them? seems pointless, so why not build battlecruisers. and also i had a tank drop on the one guy, while my bcs were being built.

Thats the flaw in your thinking...
"I don't attack with my defence".
In a game of Starcraft, static defence is often the number cause of death among newbies.
When the situation comes to it, I'll attack with EVERYTHING.

Hmmm let me think, according to you, if you attack with your infantry, you'll "get your ass attacked by the other guy."
So whats stopping them from attacking you, one from the front and one from the back in the first place??? (or one from side, the other from the other side)

If they are not newbies, they would see that attacking you from two directions (or attacking different expansions) would have caused you to spread your forces so thin that their individual armies will crush them like ants.

have you posted something i cant correct. Ya its called defence, its a thing you put at the front of your base desighned specificly to get rid of units like hydras, and 15? come on, i had one guy attack with 15 hydras and his partner with marines and zealots, and i still came out intact.

The thing is, I doubt you KNOW how to use "defence".
You put it at the front of your base, I go to the back.
Or side.
Or your expansion.

AND do you know how easy it is for Hydras to kill Bunkers??
Those people must be newbies to attack with their "15 hydras + marines + zealots" and still lose to ONE player!
They could have easily retreated or selectively take out Bunkers until your marines are exposed (to Lurkers perhaps?) .

I dont know what post u were reading, but i had a game of starcraft with those ppl, and though there choice of carriers was the one that killed them, it was a real game, that evolved up the tech-tree, blizzard doesn't put units like BCs to sit there unused, every aspect of the game must be used, or you come out the loser. although why shold i tell u this? you can't seem to make a valide point, that i can't even correct.

Its easy to write trash and say that you "correct every single point" in a person's post.
Come, lets set up a 2v1 on a non money map and we'll see how you "defend and own 75% of the map".
Hmmm maybe we can ask AkA-47 along to complete my side.

 

[AKA-47]

Blizzard also doesnt put units like marines, firebats, vultures, valkyries, observers, corsairs, dark archons, carriers, defilers, zerglings or even nukes into the game not to be used!

 

[Twisted_Sniper]

Re: Well...

Originally posted by shrimpshark
OMFG how bad were these kids to let you get bcs if I saw you were getting bcs youd be dead in a sec i'd rush you with lings before the bcs could arrive

 

[lordson]

nuthing to be sniffeed at (cept the grammar)
that might work

 

[shrimpshark]

theres no way ur just making $hit up there is no way u could survive! i have played 2 vs ones and lost but that was vs experts witch i know ur not! and the map was spread like this 75% me and friend 25% the other dude theres no way that u could with stand and have 75% of the map no matter how good you are i doubt that even slayer_boxer could pull that off!

 

[AKA-47]

Originally posted by SkuZZy
And you'd beable to get guardians before he got BC's ???

Yes.

 

[fonzieguy]

Hmmm...

ok i want a couple of ppls opinions
who is the best race for attacking,
defending,
and just all around favorite

this is ur opinion of course so say want u want but dont just be smokin somethin when u do....

 

[Emperor Pan I]

You ppl are morons. when i say 75% i dont mean the entire map. i mean a ****ing mineral. and out of maybe 15 minerals, i had 10. and yes my oponenets weren't experts but they weren't complete newbs, or i would killed em faster. i don't know why u think id agree to a 2v1, thats suicide no matter who you are.

 

[o)0g05uXte12RaN]

Originally posted by Remiraz
It was a 2v1 and they let you build up to battlecruisers?
And they themselves built carriers instead of killing you in 5 minutes with zealots and dragoons? (heck, they could probe rush you in 1 minute)

Sound like you're playing with newbies.

hes rite....

If it is 2v1, why didnt they probe rush you AT THE BEGINNING OF THE GAME? unless you are the best micro-er in the world, that would have killed you.....

 

[Emperor Pan I]

back to this again? fine i'll see what u have to offer me this time.

Originally posted by Remiraz
I played Starcraft since the day it came out.
But I still dare not say that "I know what the game is all about".
Am I a good player?
Probably not.
But the points I raised up here and throughout the forums aren't "pro gamers" information, they're the BASICS.

When i say "I know what the game is all about". i am refering to the Basics as u put it. things like expanding, attacking defending. true i don't know everything, and i would still probably get owned right now against anyone of u, because i haven't played for like 6 months, and war 3 is such a different playt style, it can ruin u.

"Making sure that you had plenty of defence while building up to 30 Battlecruisers" is what I call "sitting there".
In SC, if you don't attack, you die.
You could defend all you want and they'll pick your defences apart if you don't pressure your opponents.

don't u read, i had attacked him plenty. i dropped him, and attacked him in various ways.

Hmmm sounds like they were newbies, letting you get 200/200 when its a TWO VERSUS ONE!

it didn't start as a 2v1, it started as a 2v2, and my partner got owned by a rush. yes a zealot and goon rush, what u had suggested earlier. then i had defended that rush, then they went after my partner. leaving me against 2 ppl.


[/quote]
When you play enough games with good players, you'll realise that no good player will ever let you "owned 75% of the map" without resistance.
AND its a TWO VERSUS ONE for God's sake.
You mean you can survive TWO good players constantly harassing and attacking your main + expansion every single minute of the way AND still deny them expansion??[/quote]

u'd be surprised at how wrong that post is in several cases.

Now do you see what newbies have to do with it?

i didn't catch that, what ur a newbie?

Thats the flaw in your thinking...
"I don't attack with my defence".
In a game of Starcraft, static defence is often the number cause of death among newbies.
When the situation comes to it, I'll attack with EVERYTHING.

when u have no medics, and maybe around 8 marines damaged heavily, no space to build an academy, and your ghosts in a dropship waiting for a nuke to finish, i don't know what i am going to do? get my marines fried at the cannons? that soundss good!!

Hmmm let me think, according to you, if you attack with your infantry, you'll "get your ass attacked by the other guy."
So whats stopping them from attacking you, one from the front and one from the back in the first place??? (or one from side, the other from the other side)

can you reword that, i have no clue what u meant.

If they are not newbies, they would see that attacking you from two directions (or attacking different expansions) would have caused you to spread your forces so thin that their individual armies will crush them like ants.

ants, eh? what they gonna attack me with? hopes and dreams. if i hadn't stated enough they had nothing after i murdered the first wave of carriers.

The thing is, I doubt you KNOW how to use "defence".
You put it at the front of your base, I go to the back.
Or side.
Or your expansion.

ok... thats good for you, but was i playing u? no ok then don't refer to u. also they attacked from my side and front. there was no back because it was against the edge of da map. and as for expansion, why don't u ask them. i guess they wanted my main because thats where my main units came from, but hey, what do i know i build battlecruisers in a game where i CAN AFFORD THEM.

AND do you know how easy it is for Hydras to kill Bunkers??
Those people must be newbies to attack with their "15 hydras + marines + zealots" and still lose to ONE player!
They could have easily retreated or selectively take out Bunkers until your marines are exposed (to Lurkers perhaps?).

i put a barracks in front of my bunker, whichcan realy screw up an attack. and they were stupid enough to get close enough to get nailed by my tanks.

Its easy to write trash and say that you "correct every single point" in a person's post.
Come, lets set up a 2v1 on a non money map and we'll see how you "defend and own 75% of the map".
Hmmm maybe we can ask AkA-47 along to complete my side.

one it wasn't a money map, thats a newbs map(like u). a 2v1 i wouldn't stand a chance, unless u 2 were newbs or novice players. i will own 75% of the map if u play like them. other than that i don't know another scenario that i would own that much.

Glad u were so thought in ur post. and i don't "think ur a newbie" i just say it cause u think i am.



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[Chris2]

Oh yeah, pan, ur website makes me nausious. I nearly vomited on my keyboard

 

[Emperor Pan I]

it's not "mine" yet. i just advertise, im getting full control as of November 1st, right now my friend is running it, and signing my name ALOt, so never believe this is me in an email or something, it's a good thing he don't know my password for my battleforums name.