The Asylum

[ST]

[glow=black]I'm re-considering closing The Asylum. For a while, when we last implemented this closing, the effects went very well, until the change was reversed without other administrators consent. Moving on...it seems the only thing people on our forums can do these days is bitch about how they dislike one another, or more importantly the staff team. Insulting other members in The Asylum is fine, but when it gets to the point when it's where a majority of our activity is going, it brings up some concerns. When The Aslyum was last closed, activity flourished in Chit-Chat, and was also directed towards other, more beneficial areas of the forum. Therefore, I'm re-considering closing The Aslyum. I would very much appreciate all members considering this for a few minutes before typing out a thought out response. I'll allow this discussion to continue until Wednesday midnight (Thursday 12:00 am), at which point I'll make a final decision. Thanks for your thoughts.[/glow]

 

[Arkillo]

Activity only florished because the Asylum was closed and we had no where else to post our shit. It didn't actually increase, it just got shifted.

 

[ST]

[glow=black]Shifted out of a spam forum that contributed little, besides bitching, to BattleForums.[/glow]

 

[Arkillo]

You do have a point.

 

[Ntrik_]

dont matter to me, its not like i post in asylum everyday anwyays

 

[Angelicpower]

[glow=black]I'm re-considering closing The Asylum. For a while, when we last implemented this closing, the effects went very well, until the change was reversed without other administrators consent. Moving on...it seems the only thing people on our forums can do these days is bitch about how they dislike one another, or more importantly the staff team. Insulting other members in The Asylum is fine, but when it gets to the point when it's where a majority of our activity is going, it brings up some concerns. When The Aslyum was last closed, activity flourished in Chit-Chat, and was also directed towards other, more beneficial areas of the forum. Therefore, I'm re-considering closing The Aslyum. I would very much appreciate all members considering this for a few minutes before typing out a thought out response. I'll allow this discussion to continue until Wednesday midnight (Thursday 12:00 am), at which point I'll make a final decision. Thanks for your thoughts.[/glow]

Right on Eric :hippie: Ya know, I think people would vent in a more respectful way if the FLAME FORUM was closed. Cleaning house sounds good to me :washing:

 

[Jimbo]

We need someone to mod that place. Closing it won't do any good...

Try this.

Don't let ANY stupid threads slide in the asylum for 2 weeks.. See if it improves.

No threads like fleas "i cant get my penis up"
no stupid mindless callout threads.
Just plain no spam/borderline spam/stupid threads.

Atleast give that a shot. Who's modding it you ask? I don't know. You pick eric/pan/tipsy.

But don't close it. Closing it is just the easiest way to solve the problem we have.

 

[Ntrik_]

Closing it is just the easiest way to solve the problem we have.

isnt that why hes closing it?

 

[PauseBreak]

My opinions don't really matter but here's my two cents.

If we (since it does seem like you are putting into consideration our views) close the Asylum the Chit-Chat will come more alive. Fine, all good.
What I am excited about is that the Asylum was a place to flame and post non-sense. I think we (as a forum) need to step towards a little more respect toward each other. Even though the lot of us has bitter feelings about other members that doesn't constitute thrashing out in the way that is condoned in the Asylum.

One fear I have, is that the Asylum can be a very funny place. I love going in there and seeing what some of the crap is pulled out of out members asses. Some of it is great. If we close the Asylum I am afraid of seeing this ill humor completely disappearing. But I am more excited to see some respect start to grow.

I propose this solution.
Close the Asylum. Have the Chit-Chat just a tad more loose than it is now so some of the sick humor can come out. BUT with that, have a set of moderators that are active and can watch Chit-Chat very closely for just the absolute crap that can be posted. This way, they can judge more closely what is plain fun to actually retardation and hate mongering.

 

[Ethanael]

I wouldn't consider it a spam forum... If there's a spam forum, it's Teh Void.

And it's not the only thing that doesn't contribute anything but bitching to BattleForums. Though even saying that the Asylum doesn't contribute anything, or contributes little, but bitching to BattleForums might be a stretch.

Anyway, I doubt anyone will be able to make a compelling enough argument for you to not reclose it. There's really no great, pressing demand for the Asylum, but I'm sure a lot of people would like it to stay open and would be disappointed if it were to be closed. I guess you've already pretty well made up your mind about what you want to do, and ultimately, you're the Admin, so...yeah.

Either way, I can live without the Asylum. But then, I just came back here, and I've lived without BattleForums altogether for maybe a year or two.

I propose this solution.
Close the Asylum. Have the Chit-Chat just a tad more loose than it is now so some of the sick humor can come out. BUT with that, have a set of moderators that are active and can watch Chit-Chat very closely for just the absolute crap that can be posted. This way, they can judge more closely what is plain fun to actually retardation and hate mongering.

I concur.

*tapdances out of hread*

 

[Arkillo]

Well, seeings how you already made me a mod, why not make me the asylum mod and let me do my work for a few weeks. after two or so weeks if theres no improvement close it.

 

[ST]

[glow=black]We've tried modding it in the past, and from what I can surmise, no one has been able to do an effective job. Besides, as I mentioned, I want to get people to stop bitching about staff.[/glow]

 

[Jimbo]

[glow=black]We've tried modding it in the past, and from what I can surmise, no one has been able to do an effective job. Besides, as I mentioned, I want to get people to stop bitching about staff.[/glow]

Who's really put an effort into modding it though? I've always stayed out because I was never sure what you guys wanted me to do with this place.

 

[ChrisH36]

Keep the asylum open in my opinion.

But filter the flaming vs the staff and BF in its entirety. Otherwise, we will have a catasprohe. Especially when they turn Chit-Chat into Shit-Chat.

 

[Emperor Pan I]

The thing with The Asylum is it is a piece of Battleforums. It gets posts and threads which is a good thing. The problem now is that people fail at making threads. The Asylum is also what separated BF from other forums on the web. Yeah it isn't the most professional of forums, but that is what BF is.

The point of the modding wasn't to place a mod, but for the staff with global powers to mod the spam and threads. That is the problem in that global mods never followed that procedure.

If it is to be removed, something needs to replace it, because you get a bunch of people move over to chitchat for awhile. But that is it, and it will die down to the level it is at now, and be less threads. The Asylum is popular. removing it and not adding anyhting popular is not great.

 

[PauseBreak]

1. Why don't we just give Jenny back the Asylum then.
2. Who the hell tried to merge the entire Asylum? Give it back to her.
3. People are bitching for a reason...you need to consider that. They aren't just bitching for the hell of it. They are a little more competent then you give them credit for.

 

[Ntrik_]

Keep the asylum open in my opinion.

But filter the flaming vs the staff and BF in its entirety. Otherwise, we will have a catasprohe. Especially when they turn Chit-Chat into Shit-Chat.

dunno, but if you do that, I think asylum this place would turn into "blizzforums" for the lack of better words (just saw AxL reading this thread!!!)


anyways, if they close asylum, teh void can replace it unofficially. Theres no rules in teh void as far as im concerned.

 

[AxL]

Speaking as someone who modded the Asylum and Chit-Chat once...

Both of the forums though seemingly mutual are not. The Asylum was always a place where people weren't afraid to post flames, disgusting, or other material that wouldn't seem very kid friendly. The problem that became of it was that people abused it. It became a middle school where people would toss insults at each other just because they could. It did have a purpose, but really does a forum need a place where users can bitch each other out?

What I suggest instead is for threads that contain material that is inappropriate (videos that maybe borderline to the rules) contain a tag in the thread title. If you click on it and something offends you, too bad.

But we can lose the flaming altogether; I don't think people can be that frustrated with another member to waste their time on it.

 

[PauseBreak]

Very true. If members have problems with other members why should be able to share their concerns one-on-one via PM's.

 

[Emperor Pan I]

Mostly because BF was meant to be a fun place. Having a forum specifically where you could just **** around was fun and when properly managed, helped relieve stress and share gross factoids to eachother.