President Bush

[HavocHero]

I know this is off the subject but I need to know what people think about Bush. Is he good is he a tard? what do you think Personally i dislike him he bombed Iraq and destroyed or econemy, he is also resonsible for the lag that the us produces. well not really but still what a ****. well i g2g reply quick

 

[Above_70Percent]

bush is a tard plain and simple, gore should've won and he technically did Bush is just a rich crackhead.

 

[Lights]

Originally posted by Above_70Percent
gore should've won and he technically did Bush is just a rich crackhead.

Har Har Har, no.
Bush won the electoral votes. Thats what matters. He won fair and sqare. Gore whined and cried because he was defeated and tried to make false accusations that were proven false indefinantly.

I find it so funny how people insult Bush for being rich. Well....

**NEWS FLASH**

ALL HIGH-LEVEL POLITICIANS ARE FILTHY RICH, EVERY ONE OF THEM. BUSH IS NO EXCEPTION, NEITHER IS KERRY.​

Alright, I had to get that out. And I believe President Bush is a great man. Far from perfect, but great none the less.

 

[Ciphus]

Gore didn't technically win. He lost. He got more of the popular vote. Guess what? Populare vote doesn't matter, it's the electoral college. It's been that way for a LONG time, so technically, Bush won. Gore tried to win it in court, but he failed to do so.

Personally, I think he's doing a fine job. He hasn't ruined the economy. It's increasing at the fasted rate in a long time and we are pulling out of the recession. The recession actually started at the end of Clintons term so therefore he inherited it. He also had to deal with 9/11 which absolutely devastated the economy. Thank god they closed the markets for that weak or we wouldn't have an economy!

Going off the topic of 9/11, I admire the way he handled it. He went into Afghanistan, but not right off the get go. The nation was able to rally behind him and that's important in a leader.

I think going into Iraq was a good move. He was a ruthless dictator who was slaughtering hundreds of thousands of his own people. Not only that, but now we are fighting the terrorists in their home territory, the Middle East. Sure it's not safe, but the soldiers know that. I have 8 very, very close friends fighting in Iraq and the graduated highschool in '04. They knew the risks, just as everyone else does when they sign up. Iraq is a safer place without Saddam, so kudos to Bush. Also, you say you hate him because he bombed Iraq. Do some research about what Clinton thought of Iraq/Saddam and what he did.

I'm not saying he's the perfect president. Sure, he's made some mistakes, but every president did/does.

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

Just a quote to show everyone where Kerry stood on the war. Who knows where he stands now, it changes everyday.

 

[Lights]

Originally posted by Ciphus


"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

Just a quote to show everyone where Kerry stood on the war. Who knows where he stands now, it changes everyday.

Not to go off topic, but I have something to add to that.

He supported that war, as you said, but after our troops were sent overseas, yes after, he voted against the funding required for our soldiers to have the needed supplies to be truly effective. After doing this, he criticizes Bush for not giving enough materials....

Kerry...that man amazes me.
Anywho, back to Bush.

 

[CelestialBadger]

Ciphus: How can you possibly think that Afghanistan was handled well? We bombed them and left.

 

[Steven22]

Originally posted by Ciphus
Going off the topic of 9/11, I admire the way he handled it. He went into Afghanistan, but not right off the get go. The nation was able to rally behind him and that's important in a leader.

I can't give him any more credit than any other leader that would have been in power at the time. Any president would have done the same, so his actions concerning Afghanistan don't really make him stand out.

I have 8 very, very close friends fighting in Iraq and the graduated highschool in '04. They knew the risks, just as everyone else does when they sign up. Iraq is a safer place without Saddam, so kudos to Bush.

Smells like bull. The graduated in 04? Guess what, we're still in 04' and schools aren't out yet...
Iraq safer? Say that do the American soldiers and Iraqi civilians dieing practically everyday there.

 

[Lights]

Originally posted by Steven22
I can't give him any more credit than any other leader that would have been in power at the time. Any president would have done the same, so his actions concerning Afghanistan don't really make him stand out.

Yet, ironically, none had done it before. :rolleyes
The problem in Afghanistan is not something that just surfaced over the past 30-odd months.

Iraq safer? Say that do the American soldiers and Iraqi civilians dieing practically everyday there.

The cost of freedom is high.
People are dying, yes a sad fact.
But it is not as if people were not being tortured and murdered by Saddam during his reign. He did gas his own people, you know.

 

[Ciphus]

I meant '03, my apolgies. If you really want me to I can give you their full names and you can look them up, if possible. They graduated w/my bro and he was even closer to them. There are also 3 seniors in my HS this year that are going to basic then probably going to Iraq. I'm from a small town and this is just what people want to do.

We bombed them and left? We didn't bomb and leave. We bombed, and then Nato wanted to step in and help, and we allowed them there. We are still there, but so is the international community. Nobody left, we just got more help.

 

[Steven22]

Originally posted by Lights
Yet, ironically, none had done it before. :rolleyes[/b]

I'm sorry, since the World Trade Center got bombed by planes every time any terrorist group got the chance....
Don't forget that the reason we went into Afghanistan was to look for the people responsable for 9-11, but we saw the "horrors" of the Taliban and their regime and decided to throw in their demise as a side gift.

The cost of freedom is high.
People are dying, yes a sad fact.
But it is not as if people were not being tortured and murdered by Saddam during his reign. He did gas his own people, you know.

I'm sorry for being alittle sensible for soldiers dieing in a sandbox out in the Middle East. I just believe that soldiers shouldn't die babysitting the people of Iraq.
But its great to see other people justifing their deaths.

 

[Chain3r-]

Originally posted by Chain3r-
The elections are rigged. In some countries canidates for president or leader of country have a set amount of money each canidate is allowed to spend towards the election. This makes it fair, unfortunately we have not developed such a system here in the United Stated of America. If President Bush spent all the money he had and Kerry did too Bush would have $8 for every $1 Kerry spent, because Bush has more money for campaigns. If you tell me this is fair then you are corrupted. I do not hold sides to elections based if the canidates are democratic or republic because I honestly don't think it matters, so I am not saying this isn't fair because I like Kerry (and I don't) but I'm saying this because three words Bush said at a speech and I quote, "Bring 'em on." The nerve of this is disturbing. Bush was talking about the War in Iraq. Presidents used to lead their soldiers into battles but now Bush just gives speeches and says such things. My brother died in Iraq, and Bush had no right to say that if he's unwilling to go into Iraq and fight them with our loved ones. I know Bush is trying to help Iraq but every day he's paving the same roads unwilling to walk them. Our government should and needs to set a limit of money canidates for presidental elections can spend, when they do that, it will be fair.
My brother->:shoot :lucifer <-Bush

Thats a little peice of my mind from the thread "Elections rigged..." Bush should burn in Hell. If you like Bush go join him for all I care. (sorry thats a little mean, IF YOU VOTED FOR HIM, go join him.)

 

[Ciphus]

Kerry's net worth is at LEAST $164 million.
Bush's net worth was at $24 million at the end of last year.

Given Bush has more of a campaign fund, but Kerry could pull out some of his personal money. Not to mention he married into an incredibly rich family.

*EDIT* Net Worth is figured by Slate Magazine.

*2nd EDIT* I was rereading your post and I guess I didn't notice the part about your brother. I hate to hear that. I'm sure you know that your brother went down a hero, regardless of the circumstances.
Sorry man.

 

[Lights]

Originally posted by Steven22
I'm sorry, since the World Trade Center got bombed by planes every time any terrorist group got the chance....
Don't forget that the reason we went into Afghanistan was to look for the people responsable for 9-11, but we saw the "horrors" of the Taliban and their regime and decided to throw in their demise as a side gift.

Your missing my point. Past presidents have had the opportunity to take Osama out, but didnt. President Bush had the courage to.

Think about it. WTC was bombed in the early 90's, Bush Sr./Clinton did nothing (perhaps launched a few missiles, nothing to do real damage). Terrorists became more bold and attacked again. But this time, Bush acted upon this threat and took the majority of it out.

I'm sorry for being alittle sensible for soldiers dieing in a sandbox out in the Middle East. I just believe that soldiers shouldn't die babysitting the people of Iraq.
But its great to see other people justifing their deaths.

Would you rather have civilians dying from a nuclear bomb sent from Saddam in 5 years?

 

[BluddLuSt4Life]

How can you possibly think that Afghanistan was handled well? We bombed them and left.

Ohhhhh IC, we bombed and left. I guess thats why my brother in law ships out next month, he must be going there alone, rambo-style.

 

[Plumpamania]

Well in regards to this topic, I want to say that I am a registered Democrat, but in this election I don't even know if I want to vote. Kerry contradicts himself in every way possible, but I don't know if that is a good or a bad thing since we all think twice. But what happens if its a question of droppin a nuke? No 2nd thoughts on that.

Bush is an idiot. He got into Yale b/c of Daddy and his HS grades were bad, his gpa was below a 2.0 for most of it (reported by the AP)

He hasn't run his office, its everyone from his Dad's administration that has done it for him.

We are still in Afganistan just in much fewer numbers as Bush decided that 13 years was enough of waiting for Huessien to disarm. Clinton should have done it, but the country wouldn't have been behind him.

And I live in NY an hr from the city and I lost family and friends in 9/11 and I thought that we should still be in Afganny instead of Iraq. Get the one's who did it to us, not the one's who put a ransom on our Prez's daddy's head.

Bush blows end of story.

 

[N[U]TS]

Quit haten!!! nuff said:wavey

 

[jackalopes]

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How can you possibly think that Afghanistan was handled well? We bombed them and left.
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yea there are still troops there.. where did u get the info that we wernt there anymore?

 

[HavocHero]

oh and lights you are wrong because gore originally won florida (the desideing electoral vote) then bush said, "Wait i was sopposed to win florida, my brother is governer there." so bush demand a recount, GORE SHOULD HAVE WON!

 

[jackalopes]

Originally posted by HavocHero
oh and lights you are wrong because gore originally won florida (the desideing electoral vote) then bush said, "Wait i was sopposed to win florida, my brother is governer there." so bush demand a recount, GORE SHOULD HAVE WON!

well then if the recount said bush won then he should have won right?

 

[Chain3r-]

Originally posted by Lights
Your missing my point. Past presidents have had the opportunity to take Osama out, but didnt. President Bush had the courage to.

Courage?:tnt Yea...Bush has courage...At least if those other presidents would've led their troops into battle but what is Bush doing while our soldiers are being killed? Killed in random attacks?:tnt I understand that he's trying to help Iraq, but the Taliban is performing random attacks, attacks that kill, our soldiers. :tntAnd what about those other countries, they might think we're trying to kill all dictators. :tntFor all we know we've declared war on more then half the world, "Communist" countries might think they're next and attack us so the "beloved" leader keeps power.:tnt Some other countries might just think we attacked for no reason and attack us too.:tnt