Otmorosok and Guru

[ORC-r0x0r-ROC]

Heres a few british inventions:

Anemometer, Internal Combustion Engine, Disc Brakes,
Jet Engines, Tin Can, Holography, Cat Eyes,kelvin Scale
Portland Cement, Lawn Mower,Lightbulbs,Little Nipper Mousetrap
Depth Charges, Penicillin, Periodic Table, Periscope, EKG,
Penny Farthing(bike), Electric Motor, Polyester, Electromagnet, Puckle Gun,Fax Machine, Radar Locating of Aircraft, Gas Mask Steam Engine, Rubber Masticator, Rubber Bands, Television, Steel Production, Seismometer, Radio, Periscope, Viagra ^^ ,
Vacuum Cleaner, toliet paper (what would we do without this!), Torpedo, Submarine, world wide web..

There are a lot more, ill post some later

 

[Guru]

Originally posted by ORC-r0x0r-ROC
I never said franklin wasnt a american i said William Gilbert was english and he came a lot closer than franklin to inventing it. Also many people who helped him were british heres a quote from a site "
In 1743, in Boston, Benjamin Franklin was present at some electric experiments by Adam Spencer, a famous scottish professor.
Soon afterwards he asked his corrispondent from London, the naturalist Peter Collinson, to ship some glass tubes and set up a laboratory in his house.
In June 1752 B. Franklin made his famous experiment with a kite in which he proved that lightning was an electrical discharge from the clouds. " http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Circuit/1858 Face it there were people before and after him you cant honestly say he solely discovered it. It was "discovered" way before american history.

I wouldn't say mailing glass tubes or helping him conduct an experiment that Franklin thought up would count credit for the discovery.Face it, franklin made the most and biggest contributions to the discovery.

 

[Guru]

Originally posted by ORC-r0x0r-ROC
Heres a few british inventions:

Anemometer, Internal Combustion Engine, Disc Brakes,
Jet Engines, Tin Can, Holography, Cat Eyes,kelvin Scale
Portland Cement, Lawn Mower,Lightbulbs,Little Nipper Mousetrap
Depth Charges, Penicillin, Periodic Table, Periscope, EKG,
Penny Farthing(bike), Electric Motor, Polyester, Electromagnet, Puckle Gun,Fax Machine, Radar Locating of Aircraft, Gas Mask Steam Engine, Rubber Masticator, Rubber Bands, Television, Steel Production, Seismometer, Radio, Periscope, Viagra ^^ ,
Vacuum Cleaner, toliet paper (what would we do without this!), Torpedo, Submarine, world wide web..

There are a lot more, ill post some later

Firstly, Britian did not invent the first submarine. William Bourne only drew plans for it, a Dutch inventor managed to build the first one.

However, it is said the US invented the first "true" submarine. It was steamed powered and would lay explosive charges on british war ships.

The invention of the Jet engine is credited to a German inventor too.


You cannot count the Periodic Table since it was made by more than one person, and dates back all the way to aceint Greece.
Also, we are talking about inventions during US history, since its only fair considering Britain was around so much longer. From the time the US was founded, who made the most inventions? Both country;s had the same about of time to invent since 1776. So a large amount of those can not be counted.

If you want to compare lists, be my guess, thats just too bad, since the US patent office has given out over 6 million patents since 1790.

 

[Kuzmich]

Originally posted by Guru
You think Russia is credited with the ending of WWII? Get clue. It is obvious the ending of it was because of both Russia and the Allies. How you can deny that is funny...not to mention the fact that Russia would have been toast with out the help of the US. Maybe before the weekend you will read a history book kid.

Once again i know that Russia couldn't win without US or UK, i am saying that Russia did most work against Germany and US will be toast just as easily if not for Russia.

Oh and periodic table is a Russian invention, ever heard of Mendeliev he invented it and he was Russian.

Oh and i see this turned out to be who invented what first thread well here is my list.
Russia invented:
AK-47
vector engine
plasma shield
IL-44
T-34
T-44
Russia Shark submarine (carries 250 nuclear missiles)
and ofcourse periodic table
thats only a beggining i didn't look into it much if i have time i will.

Oh and Guru you can do your happy dance, or whatever you Americans do. I will only be able to post on weekends now, got into some trouble.

 

[Guru]

Originally posted by Otmorosok
Once again i know that Russia couldn't win without US or UK, i am saying that Russia did most work against Germany and US will be toast just as easily if not for Russia.

The US and Britain just as much, if not more work than Russia. The fact you think the US would have lost without them is funny considering the fact the United States was fighting two war against two superpowers on two fronts, yet after the first you months they were never losing to either of them. (they were never losing to Germany at all)

Oh and i see this turned out to be who invented what first thread well here is my list.
Russia invented:
AK-47
vector engine
plasma shield
IL-44
T-34
T-44
Russia Shark submarine (carries 250 nuclear missiles)
and ofcourse periodic table
thats only a beggining i didn't look into it much if i have time i will.

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Uh, who can say "dumbass"? We are not talking about particular models blah blah blah, we are talking about orginal things. For example, the Ak-47 isn't the first gun to be made. And I do not recall Russia inventing the first tanks (thats credited to the French.) Russia didn't invent the internet either. Face it, Russia just can't compete with the amount of inventions from other countries, mainly because of the dent that communism put on the 1900's

Oh and Guru you can do your happy dance, or whatever you Americans do. I will only be able to post on weekends now, got into some trouble.

I'll do that

 

[Kuzmich]

Originally posted by Guru


The US and Britain just as much, if not more work than Russia. The fact you think the US would have lost without them is funny considering the fact the United States was fighting two war against two superpowers on two fronts, yet after the first you months they were never losing to either of them. (they were never losing to Germany at all)

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Uh, who can say "dumbass"? We are not talking about particular models blah blah blah, we are talking about orginal things. For example, the Ak-47 isn't the first gun to be made. And I do not recall Russia inventing the first tanks (thats credited to the French.) Russia didn't invent the internet either. Face it, Russia just can't compete with the amount of inventions from other countries, mainly because of the dent that communism put on the 1900's




I'll do that

First US was fighting a small portion of German forces, if they were hit as hard as we were they would be wiped out, no question about it, we had better tanks and plains then you and our winter helped a bit and you didnt have any of that, so Germans would wipe you out. Oh and ofcourse they were not loosing to Germans, i would be surprised if they were, they only had to take out the troops that were beaten on our front or the troops that were out numbered, German army was greater then Russian yet we won, we took Berlin, we held germans off for 2 years while you were in Africa, while you were destroying the weakest German and Italian army had to offer. And what a nice job you did with Japan, anyone could have done that, anyone with nukes and we had nukes so basically you just pull the trigger first.

 

[AxL]

I really find this quite retarded. Allies arguing with Allies. We were on the same side, we each did our own part and arguing over who was stronger is irrelevant.

 

[Kuzmich]

Alliance doesnt mean freindship or agriment it means, business relations and non aggresion.

 

[AxL]

Originally posted by Otmorosok
Alliance doesnt mean freindship or agriment it means, business relations and non aggresion.

However we aided each other in the war and without one it could have been a lot different then what we are living in now.

 

[Kuzmich]

That is true but i dont see how it can keep as from discussing the war, and from discussing who's part was greater.

 

[Guru]

First US was fighting a small portion of German forces, if they were hit as hard as we were they would be wiped out, no question about it, we had better tanks and plains then you and our winter helped a bit and you didnt have any of that, so Germans would wipe you out. Oh and ofcourse they were not loosing to Germans, i would be surprised if they were, they only had to take out the troops that were beaten on our front or the troops that were out numbered, German army was greater then Russian yet we won, we took Berlin, we held germans of for 2 years while you were in Africa, while you were destroying the weakest German and Italian army had to offer. And what a nice job you did with Japan, anyone could have done that, anyone with nukes and we had nukes so basically you just pull the trigger first.

I don't think you realize how much the US did. Firtly, they saved Russia's ass by suppling them with a tramendous amount of essential supplies.

Nextly, they fought them on two seperate fronts. We took out the Germans Africa-core, and won the Eastern front. You obviously have no idea how many Panzer divisions and troops the Hitler had just sitting there doing absolutely nothing trying to guard the entire coastline.

As for Japan, you think all we did was pull two triggers? After suffering a massive blow to the Pacific fleet, it took years island hopping, not to mention the fact Japan actually invaded American soil. Had Japan attacked attacked Russia instead, it would have been curtains for your queer motherland.

And, hate to break it to you, but the United States was a lot stronger than Russia. Hitler would have been writing his own death sentance had he attacked the United States. Japan found that out. The United States industrial power was more than your tiny mind can imagine in comparision to the rest of the world.

Originally posted by AxL
I really find this quite retarded. Allies arguing with Allies. We were on the same side, we each did our own part and arguing over who was stronger is irrelevant.

Actually, I do agree with you. Otmo just doesn't shut up and goes on and on about how Russia is better than the United States and contributed most to the war effort, yet they relied heavily on American war progress on the other front and American supplies. He is so ignorant that its annoying.

 

[Kuzmich]

Guru wow, you are getting dumber and dumber with every reply, so i am guessing i am annoying to you, well i dont care, you annoy just as much with your stupidity. First we did do most work, we defeated most Germans, we took Berlin, we killed most Germans and we took out most panzer devisions. Now US did supply as but not with tanks or weapons but with food. We had our own weapons, Katiusha, T-34, T-44, IL-44, PPSH and others, thousands of workers were on the factories making shells and tanks, now you helped to feed those workers. Hitler would invade US, and he would have conquered it, you simply dont have enough resources to maintain the army you really on foreign resources, like oil, and if the access to them was cut off then you simply will not have anything to make your guns from. If you were hit the same as Russia were, well you would be destroyed easy, my puny mind is actually bigger then yours atleast according to the nonsense you say in your replies. Besides you can break anything to me as long as it is not truth i dont care. US was greater then Russia during WW2, ha ha ha, you should become a comedian then you grow up and leave your parents basement, then you 40.

 

[AxL]

Originally posted by Otmorosok
That is true but i dont see how it can keep as from discussing the war, and from discussing who's part was greater.

That's my point. Who gives a shit? We all did something that brought the axis down, and without one (England, USA, Russia) things could be drastically different then they are now. That is why it is irrelevant and childish to argue about it.

 

[Kuzmich]

Whatever, i can argue about anything i want, you think i am childish well, i dont care. Guru can just go ahead and shut up if he agrees with you.

 

[ORC-r0x0r-ROC]

Sorry for this double posting (cant delete)

 

[ORC-r0x0r-ROC]

Originally posted by Guru
I wouldn't say mailing glass tubes or helping him conduct an experiment that Franklin thought up would count credit for the discovery.Face it, franklin made the most and biggest contributions to the discovery.

He set his lab up for him, franklin was inspired by scotish scientist doing electric experiements. There were plenty of people before him he just built on there work if non of the other many scientists that contributed to electicity before him he would of never of got anywhere. It was discovered by the first person who "found" it and documented it first end of story he didnt make any contributions the the discovery he just increased the understanding of it. As many people did before him.

 

[Guru]

Originally posted by Otmorosok
Guru wow, you are getting dumber and dumber with every reply, so i am guessing i am annoying to you, well i dont care, you annoy just as much with your stupidity. First we did do most work, we defeated most Germans, we took Berlin, we killed most Germans and we took out most panzer devisions. Now US did supply as but not with tanks or weapons but with food. We had our own weapons, Katiusha, T-34, T-44, IL-44, PPSH and others, thousands of workers were on the factories making shells and tanks, now you helped to feed those workers. Hitler would invade US, and he would have conquered it, you simply dont have enough resources to maintain the army you really on foreign resources, like oil, and if the access to them was cut off then you simply will not have anything to make your guns from. If you were hit the same as Russia were, well you would be destroyed easy, my puny mind is actually bigger then yours atleast according to the nonsense you say in your replies. Besides you can break anything to me as long as it is not truth i dont care. US was greater then Russia during WW2, ha ha ha, you should become a comedian then you grow up and leave your parents basement, then you 40.

You stand alone on the belief I get dumber and dumber, because it seems as if everyone else thinks your the idiot.

Nextly, can you tell me the code name for Hitlers plan to invade the United States? Oh wait, Hitler never planned to. The was never going to be an invasion, and even if there was, he was have to cross all those Panzer divisions across the alantic ocean. Thats not easy. Moreover, even if he did make it across, there is no way he would be able to take out the American army. We were the strongest in the world.

I;m sure your going to reply with some more bullshit, but don't expect a reply. I rest my case. You are too dumb to accept the truth, and if you won't believe me, believe everybody else...*points to top of page*

 

[ORC-r0x0r-ROC]

Originally posted by Guru
Firstly, Britian did not invent the first submarine. William Bourne only drew plans for it, a Dutch inventor managed to build the first one.

However, it is said the US invented the first "true" submarine. It was steamed powered and would lay explosive charges on british war ships.

The invention of the Jet engine is credited to a German inventor too.


You cannot count the Periodic Table since it was made by more than one person, and dates back all the way to aceint Greece.
Also, we are talking about inventions during US history, since its only fair considering Britain was around so much longer. From the time the US was founded, who made the most inventions? Both country;s had the same about of time to invent since 1776. So a large amount of those can not be counted.

If you want to compare lists, be my guess, thats just too bad, since the US patent office has given out over 6 million patents since 1790.

I couldnt care less what is "fair". It probally is ONLY -said- in the united states that they invented the "true" submarine.. as to the dutch thingi there is a difference between inventing and building, if there are so many patents try naming some....

 

[ORC-r0x0r-ROC]

Originally posted by Guru
Firstly, Britian did not invent the first submarine. William Bourne only drew plans for it, a Dutch inventor managed to build the first one.

However, it is said the US invented the first "true" submarine. It was steamed powered and would lay explosive charges on british war ships.

The invention of the Jet engine is credited to a German inventor too.


You cannot count the Periodic Table since it was made by more than one person, and dates back all the way to aceint Greece.
Also, we are talking about inventions during US history, since its only fair considering Britain was around so much longer. From the time the US was founded, who made the most inventions? Both country;s had the same about of time to invent since 1776. So a large amount of those can not be counted.

If you want to compare lists, be my guess, thats just too bad, since the US patent office has given out over 6 million patents since 1790.

I couldnt care less what is "fair" the inventions before the founding of US is what they got most of there ideas from. It probally is ONLY -said- in the united states that they invented the "true" submarine.. as to the dutch thingi there is a difference between inventing and building, if there are so many patents try naming some...

"You cannot count the Periodic Table since it was made by more than one person" Isnt this a bit hypocitical as the electricity discovery dated all the way back to acient greece..

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I do agree with you. Otmo just doesn't shut up and goes on and on about how Russia is better than the United States and contributed most to the war effort, yet they relied heavily on American war progress on the other front and American supplies. He is so ignorant that its annoying.
originally posted by guru________________________________________________

Well of course you agreeing with him, so youve got another person against otmo but your doing the exact thing as otmo, your saying america is best, they contributed most the the war bla blah blah. Thats what he was sick off, all the argument about the war when you were both allies. If you really you would of shut up. As i dont agree i can talk all i want without being so hipocritcal.

 

[Static]

I don;t see how this conversation rolled into airplanes and cars and such.... I think if your going to look at a country as a whole or whatever it is we are doing here. Look at violence and population and then get the numbers average it out, get the Mood and the medium or median.

Me personally I think America has went down the whole. There is too much american on american killings with gangs, angry people, and dissagreements.

Russia isnt bad on people killing each other... American has over 11,000 murders a year. Just murders , thats not drunken driving killing thats people killing people over arguements.