How can i make my pc better

[DigitalElite]

easy to screw up though...nice little trick if you do it right

 

[amthx]

Originally posted by ORC-r0x0r-ROC
AMD pwns intel, if you could get like a 2.0 AMD altholon(sp?) that should be ok. What motherboard do you have, it might depend on that. Money provided I would go for a new motherboard (depends what you got) more ram and better proccessor.

How does AMD "pwn" Intel? Intel overclocks better but AMD is cheaper. Best Bang for your Buck AMD is Athlon XP 2500+ and Best Bang for your Buck Intel is P4 2.4C-2.8C (Overclocks to 3.4 easily). AMD Doesn't "pwn" Intel, It's just cheaper and that makes it most of the gamers choice for processor. Don't get anything below AMD Athlon 2500+ though. If you're going with AMD I prefer ABIT NF7-S Motherboard it's probably the best. For Intel, ABIT AI7.
You say you have 2 sticks of 256? Is it PC3200? If so you can add 2 more 256 Sticks and run all 4 of them in Dual Channel on the ABIT AI7. But NF7-S (AMD) Only supports 2 DIMM for PC3200. That is why I suggest goign with Intel on this one. The P4 2.8 C costs around 10$ more than the 2.4C. Get the retail one, it comes with 3 year warranty, etc. If you plan to overclock, get some kind of cooling for it. Keep your DVD-RW and Keep your DVD-ROM.


For Graphics, get a Saphire Radeon 9800 Pro ($190-200) It is clearly the best bang for the buck. It's better than the 9600 XT and if you overclock it, better than the 9800 XT. If yours comes with a R360 Core (i believe?) you have the option to overclock it to Radeon 9800 XT+ Speeds and if you do get some type of cooling like Arctic VGA Silencer or Thermaltake Giant III.

Trash your old P4. Maybe Sell the Gf4Ti. What is your RAM speed?

 

[antitheus]

The lowest you should go is a dual proc 1.25

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APP...D12DIFNEb/0.0.7.1.0.6.13.0.2.1.3.0.7.10.1.1.0

they're cheaper than they were. If you really want some raw gaming power... go with the G5 dual 2.5 ghz. You can't go wrong, they blaze. I play tons of games and the performance is ridiculous because of the dual 1ghz bus.

 

[WQ87]

Meh, G5... they are the fastest performing processors in the world, for now. Too bad there aren't many games made for macs, especially the popular DX8 and 9 games out there.

 

[antitheus]

i've never had a problem having any game on mac. they've usually all been hybrid for like the last 6 years now..

 

[scouchpaper]

Yea im running 2.8 Processer,2 duel 1.0 gigabyte ddr ram,256 mb/8x gforce 5700LE,and a amd motherboard,and I play unreal 2004,diablo 2,Frozen throne,counter strike,and sometimes have 2 at a time running and I dont slow down one bit,all on high resolutions to.I also recommend gettin a good power supply,im using a 450 watt one but i have 4 fans to keep it cool More Power = Better Performance.

 

[WQ87]

Originally posted by antitheus
i've never had a problem having any game on mac. they've usually all been hybrid for like the last 6 years now..

You shouldn't with a G5. They are extremely fast. Is just that there aren't many games supoorted by their OS.

 

[antitheus]

I haven't found a game that wasn't supported yet.

 

[WQ87]

Originally posted by antitheus
I haven't found a game that wasn't supported yet.

Well, i doubt you play any of the ones that were meant for your graphics card.

 

[aphextwin]

maybe get a new video card? dunno.. i use ati and its less laggy

 

[l33t 0n3]

I run the newest games on 512 ram/800mhz/geforce4 laglessly. This may be due to your OS or drivers, since your computer is fast enough. XP clogs up a lot of processing power and ram if you don't configure it right (I got 11% used on the OS on 98, over 60% on XP ; Your drivers may also not be up-to-date. Also, exactly what games are we talking? An upgrade in RAM always works. Oh yeah, don't listen to anyone telling you to upgrade your video card. ge-Force 4's are roughly 15-30 years ahead of all software. You can run every single program with a ge-force 2 if you do it right. ^^;;

 

[antitheus]

Originally posted by WQ87
Well, i doubt you play any of the ones that were meant for your graphics card.

I play games such as any Medal of Honor, Battlefield 1942/Vietnam, Diablo II, UT2004, Halo, Quake 3, Unreal 2: the awakening (didn't really like it that much but it runs smooth as silk), and probably hundreds more. I think some of those games really show what the G5/ati 9800 can do.

 

[WQ87]

If you can play halo and vietnam on a mac, then i have underestimated the Mac OS badly.

 

[jd-inflames]

Dual processing in a gaming rig is pointless, you know this right? Your games are still only going to be running at the 2.5ghz...yes, that 2.5ghz may be dedicated to the game while the other processor is holding up windows, but it doesn't take NEARLY the processor for the new games that you guys think it takes. I'm running on an Athlon XP 1700+ and I'm still doing great. It's all about how you run your machine.

More Power = Better Performance.

Not quite...More power = more flashy LED's you can hold without smoking your PSU. Any gaming rig available nowadays can run easily on a 300W PSU without problem as long as they don't over-do it with "specialty" items such as cathodes and non-standard fans.

You can run every single program with a ge-force 2 if you do it right. ^^;;

True, but incorrect, as funny as that sounds. I'm running on a GF2 ti at the moment, and I can play every game out now, yes. BUT, GF2's are only DX7 compliant, so I can only get so many of the features these new games hold. Yes, I can pump all the detail's I want out of any game I play, but it's still not going to look as nice as a DX9 compliant card with the capabilities to show off these new shadow rendering and other cool effects.

 

[DemiGhost]

ok ima build a whole new comp, and try to salvage things from my comp. here is what im thinking of

intel p4 2.8 ghz with hyperthreading
some kind of nforce board i 4got name
1 gig of ddr ram
160 gig hd
80 gig hd
ATI radeon 9800 pro 128mb(how can i mod it 2 be better)
soundblaster audigy 5.1 gamer
and a xblade case that comes w/ a 450watt power supply

does that sound good?

 

[jd-inflames]

I didn't realize that they made nForce boards with a socket 478...thought they all came in A? Damn I'm behind with hardware right now =\

 

[DemiGhost]

i might be wrong lol i thought they did. what mobo should i get, im looking for 1 with 4 ram slots a agp 8x slot at a decent price

 

[ORC-r0x0r-ROC]

How does AMD "pwn" Intel? Intel overclocks better but AMD is cheaper. Best Bang for your Buck AMD is Athlon XP 2500+ and Best Bang for your Buck Intel is P4 2.4C-2.8C (Overclocks to 3.4 easily). AMD Doesn't "pwn" Intel, It's just cheaper and that makes it most of the gamers choice for processor. Don't get anything below AMD Athlon 2500+ though. If you're going with AMD I prefer ABIT NF7-S Motherboard it's probably the best. For Intel, ABIT AI7.

This poll might straighten some things out. The AMD Athlon XP 3200+ (2.2 GHz) performs about the same as an Intel Pentium 4-C (3.2 Ghz) CPU (You wouldn't even have to overclock to beat a intel mhz for mhz) for. AMDs are cheaper as you said, they have pretty much been the best since AMD thunderbird. AMD had 64bit processors to the public before INTEL had them out to buisness's and servers. They're a lot more cost efficient and a lot of people say, more reliable.

 

[WQ87]

nForces are only availiable to AMDs the last time i checked.

 

[jd-inflames]

That's what I thought =\ Sorry pal, you will have to live without the joys of an nForce unless you want to go with AMD, which I would recommend anyway just because they are cheap and will do you the same bit of good.