WWIII Scenario

[AZN_FLEA]

there is no way china will win. even if they get the muslim ****rys over to their side the chanvces of winning are near zero cuz the US will also have allies. the US wont lose to no ****ry unless terrorrists actually do enough damage to knock US off their knees which aint gunna happen easily. if the brits turned against the US the us definitely will have more than a little problem. so what im saying is a lil like this
muslims china brits vs US allies and i doubt that the brits will betray US. the french and the US arent going along too well these days maybe they will start a war....the US have a weakness, the same weakness everyone has. their own side. if they start fighting each other they will give an oppportunity to china to atak. and beside the enemies might bomb the US key locations. like the 911 disaster.

 

[Undead Cheese]

Originally posted by Kuzmich
[glow=red]we did significant damage to their army (like wiping out 60% of their tanks and 80% of their army, thats not rock throwing)[/glow]

Germany mobilized 12,500,000 soldiers in World War II. A total of 2,850,000 German troops were killed in World War II, which was 22.8% of their army. Now, answer this question for me: How did the Soviet Union kill 80% of Germany's army if only 22.8% of its army died over the course of the war, especially since not all of those deaths were perpetrated by Soviet soldiers?

Originally posted by Kuzmich
[glow=red]You kidding me? There were more then 3 million German soldiers on the eastern front, 80% of all the troops germany had.[/glow]

If 3,000,000 soldiers was 80% of Germany's army, then their total army would have only consisted of 3,750,000 soldiers. Are you telling me less than 750,000 soldiers were spread out across Western Europe AND Africa? (ignoring the fact that Germany mobilized 12,500,000 soldiers, not 3.75 mil)


Now, the Soviet Union mobilized 25,000,000 soldiers over the course of the war; the United States mobilized 14,900,000. Could the United States and the other allies have won the war without Russia? No. Could Russia have won the war without the United States? No.

Originally posted by ORC-r0x0r-ROC
China has a pop of over two billion

Originally posted by ORC-r0x0r-ROC
I don't expect a country that has more than 2 billion people ...

http://www.photius.com/rankings/population_2003_0.html

Unless China's population has risen 750,000,000+ since last year, no.

 

[ORC-r0x0r-ROC]

I painfully found that out earlier yesterday, I must of heard it from a very unreliable source to get it that wrong, I wil try find it but that is still a ****ing big number :/.

 

[Lights]

Originally posted by vanilla_ice_cream
America is the most technologically advanced country with the most advanced military, but then again when you look at Iraq, well...... Let's just put it this way, if WW3 broke out, once again this is assuming if ground troops are used, I wouldn't want Geroge Bush at the helm.

If you can recall, we decimated Iraq's military; first in '91 and again these past few years. What is going on now has nothing to do with the President. The fighting style is incredibly difficult no matter who is in charge or what military is fighting. Guerrilla warfare is not easy when your opponent knows the terrain like the backs of their hands and are willing to blow themselves up. Honestly, we are doing very well considering.

But as far real war goes, I wouldnt want anyone else. Bush has proven his strength in war by not backing off from media pressure. He knows this is a just cause and continues on.

If WWIII does break out, who would you want? Kerry? Someone who would support it one day and be against it the next? Nay, when it comes to war, at least, Bush is a good choice.


And ground troops would, of course, be used if WWIII broke out.

 

[Kuzmich]

Originally posted by Undead Cheese
Germany mobilized 12,500,000 soldiers in World War II. A total of 2,850,000 German troops were killed in World War II, which was 22.8% of their army. Now, answer this question for me: How did the Soviet Union kill 80% of Germany's army if only 22.8% of its army died over the course of the war, especially since not all of those deaths were perpetrated by Soviet soldiers?



If 3,000,000 soldiers was 80% of Germany's army, then their total army would have only consisted of 3,750,000 soldiers. Are you telling me less than 750,000 soldiers were spread out across Western Europe AND Africa? (ignoring the fact that Germany mobilized 12,500,000 soldiers, not 3.75 mil)


Now, the Soviet Union mobilized 25,000,000 soldiers over the course of the war; the United States mobilized 14,900,000. Could the United States and the other allies have won the war without Russia? No. Could Russia have won the war without the United States? No.

[glow=red] Can you please give me a link to proove what you say.[/glow]

 

[Undead Cheese]

Originally posted by Kuzmich
[glow=red] Can you please give me a link to proove what you say.[/glow]

If you can find an online version of The Harper Encyclopedia Of Military History 4th Edition you can go for it. I'll write the table out they have and, if you wish, I could try and scan the page out of the book.

                                                                                   THE COST OF WORLD WAR II


NATIONS              TOTAL FORCES MOBILIZED (millions)                 MILITARY DEAD               MILITARY WOUNDED                  CIVILIAN DEAD                  ECONOMIC AND FINANCIAL COSTS ($ billion)

United States                   14.9                                      292,100                       571,822                       Negligible                                      350
United Kingdom                   6.2                                      397,762                       475,000                           65,000                                      150
France                           6.0                                      210,671                       400,000                          108,000                                      100
Soviet Union                    25.0                                    7,500,000                    14,012,000                    10-15,000,000                                      200
China                         6-10.0                                      500,000                     1,700,000                        1,000,000                                  No estimate
Germany                         12.5                                    2,850,000                     7,250,000                          500,000                                      300
Italy                            4.5                                       77,500                       120,000                       40-100,000                                       50
Japan                            7.4                                    1,506,000                       500,000                          300,000                                      100
All other participants          20.0                                    1,500,000                   No estimate                    14-17,000,000                                      350
Total                          105.0                                   15,000,000                   No estimate                    26-34,000,000                                    1,600

 

[Kuzmich]

[glow=red]Please scan that page, just to make sure, i go look for some sources stating that i am right a bit later, too lazy right now. But you do have some good evidence[/glow]

 

[Undead Cheese]

Okay, I scanned the page:

http://www.undeadcheese.com/images/ww2.jpg

 

[AZN_FLEA]

VERY INFORMATIVE.... HOW DO THEY KNOW THAT STUFF ANYWAY?

 

[Lights]

Originally posted by AZN_FLEA
VERY INFORMATIVE.... HOW DO THEY KNOW THAT STUFF ANYWAY?

How do we know anything about the past? Written records. People keeping up with what was happening.

 

[amrtin77]

thats not only for world war two.. those are big numbers. im sure its for the countries entire military past.

 

[Lights]

Originally posted by amrtin77
thats not only for world war two.. those are big numbers. im sure its for the countries entire military past.

Keep in mind WWII was the largest war of world history. Big numbers were the only numbers used. Do you think Germany used small numbers to nearly take over Europe in its entirity? Did the USSR use small numbers to stop them?

 

[amrtin77]

you might be right. but those numbers are huge.. 12 million soldirs mobilized at one time?

but the casualties seem to add up for the soviet union.


google checked. the numbers seem to add up right. thats a lot of soldiers. i didnt think we actually sent 12 million soldiers to fight.

 

[mega_monsta]

This shit is still up ? ****, get over it

 

[Sogeking]

Originally posted by amrtin77
you might be right. but those numbers are huge.. 12 million soldirs mobilized at one time?

but the casualties seem to add up for the soviet union.


google checked. the numbers seem to add up right. thats a lot of soldiers. i didnt think we actually sent 12 million soldiers to fight.

uh, i dont think we even had 12 million eligible males in the us...

 

[Cossack]

dudes heres how ww3 would go

first hey figh fight fight

then someone runs out of equipment like well pretty much looses
but they dont want to have the others take over their country so they launch nukes the other side launches nukes and everyones dead and the cocoroaches are left to repopulate the earth!

but if america didnt use nukes after they loose ussr would kik ther ass

 

[B)ushid(o]

Originally posted by thebastardsword
uh, i dont think we even had 12 million eligible males in the us...

yes we did.

 

[amrtin77]

thats still a huge chunk of population.... later ill look up our population of the time, and how many males between the ages 17- 30 there were or something. did they send over every man that could hold a gun? -.-

 

[Sogeking]

wait....there wasnt a draft for ww2 right?

 

[Undead Cheese]

From the site I found the population of the United States in 1941 was 133,402,000. 14,900,000 people in the military is approximately 11% of the country's total population.

The world fact book states there are currently ~73,000,000 men in the United States now between the ages of 15-49. If we take HALF of that number (eliminating those aged 15-17, 31-49, and those with disabilities) there would still around 36.5 million men fit for service in this country today, which is approximately 12% of the country's population.

It's entirely possible.