Wii Sales (Holy crap!)

[Shadow1psc]

"We finally have some sales figures for one of the recently launched next-gen consoles. Nintendo today announced that over 600,000 Wii systems were sold in the Americas in the first 8 days after its November 19 launch. Since the Wii is still sold out in the US, that gives us an indication of how many Wiis Nintendo has shipped so far. Nintendo recently promised 1 million units by the end of the year, so that means we can expect a little under 400,000 in future shipments.

The Wii's flagship title, The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, has sold over 454,000 copies, meaning more than 75% of Wii owners picked up the game with their system.

Reggie Fils-Aime, president of Nintendo of America, commented on the Wii's success:

"Even with sales already in excess of 600,000 units, demand continues to exceed supply, as it's clear this is one of the 'gotta-have' products for the holiday season. We've shipped retailers several times the amount of hardware the other company was able to deliver for its launch around the same time -- and we still sold out.

Given the inclusive nature of Wii game play, we're seeing this new form of video gaming is already a huge hit with gamers and newcomers alike. It continues to be a phenomenal launch."

Nintendo included one other figure with the report - the console sales, along with first-party software and accessories sales, have made the Wii into a $190 million business in the Americas."

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Wii wiins?

 

[bamthedoc]

The console wars cannot be declared yet! I'm a Nintendo fan and a Wii lover (...), and I am no where near ready to declare any type of winner. The fact that Nintendo isn't able to keep up with demand is both "to be expected" and nice to see, at the same time.

No. No winner yet!

 

[Emperor Pan I]

remember the PS3 had less supply than Nintendo, so until the shipments ramp up, there can't be much comparison. Plus the 360 has sold around 7 million. Nothing has been decided.

 

[Shadow1psc]

600,000 units, in one week, in one region. We're not counting Japan, and the upcomming Europe launch week. Considering Xbox has had a year, that's kind of scary.

PS3 creates false scarcity to create a false sense of pride in the fact that they sold out and there's still demand. Nintendo shipped over half a million units to one region, and is still trying to meet consumer demand. If ps3 shipped even just the preorder overflow demand, that wouldn't have been met. Software sales are less than stellar as well.

 

[ReiGn]

PS3 creates false scarcity to create a false sense of pride in the fact that they sold out and there's still demand. Nintendo shipped over half a million units to one region, and is still trying to meet consumer demand. If ps3 shipped even just the preorder overflow demand, that wouldn't have been met. Software sales are less than stellar as well.

Oh lawlz, where did you get this from?

 

[bamthedoc]

As impressive as 600,000 (give or take) units sound, that's still not even coming close to meeting demand of any of the markets. Myself, I'd like to be the future owner of all three. That'll require price-cuts and used versions of the PS3 and X-Box 360, but that's beside the point.

I'll admit that I'm impressed by Nintendo's direction and early surge, but the three consoles are not in direct opposition to each other anymore. This generation is truly "the Gamers' Market" because you have the unique immersion of the Wii, the raw graphical powerhouse of the PS3, and the comprehensive online experience of the 360. You'll also note I'm saying this being accused of being a pure "Ninty fanboy". Liking something more is not being a fanboy. Liking something and naysaying anything else without good reason/cause is.

I, personally, like the Wii more. It forces a cold, hard look at gaming rather than "power". I'll be one of the first to argue that graphics mean nothing, but I will also say that I like a good looking game. I thing Excite Truck, Twilight Princess, and Raving Rabids look great. I've seen a few PS3 games and played them, and I haven't been all that impressed. I know that once people get some gameplay aspects down, that system will turn out fine. I'm just...not so "Wow"ed by graphics, never have been.

It's the reason I've been in love with Nintendo systems and kinda jump on other consoles later when they have a chance to really start to shine. Nintendo just seems to know how to make a controller and scheme that just make sense. I don't think there will be a winner or loser this generation unless developers don't take full advantage of all the consoles at their disposal. The "standard" development teams can, safely, be used for the PS3 and 360. However, all parties need to realize that the DS and Wii require a new kind of development team, and a new mindset.

I like where Disney and EA are heading. They've made "Wii-only" development teams. Madden '07 for the Wii was made, exclusively, by EA Canada. Disney has a new studio devoted to churning out Wii games, even if they aren't exclusive titles. Other companies are already taking a good, hard look at this (SquarEnix, Atlus, and Bandai-Namco to name a few).


We can all stand and say that the first round looks good. The Wii has sparked intrigue, and the idea that gameplay needs to evolve as much if not more than graphics is really starting to catch hold. Nintendo's done it before, and other's have profiteered off of it. Nintendo 64's analog stick sparked 3D a new wave, or even beginning. Nintendo 64's RumblePak created a big splash in "immersion factor" gaming. These designs have been copied, and some will even say Sony's SixAxis was a quick knockoff to try to cash in on this "cash cow."

I like how the industry is being shaked, and so do many developers. I mean... I'd love to see the next, great Atlus or Bandai-Namco RPG on the Wii! I love Ogre and other Atlus RPGs, and I can't turn down any Tales game by Namco (now Bandai-Namco). SquarEnix's Crystal Chronicles for the Wii will be great thanks to an online component that will really make the CC multi-player shine like never before.

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You're right about the PS3 scarcity...to an extent. You also have to consider that some are buying the PS3 as a "cheap" BluRay player. Sony's aiming for them. Unfortunately, it just seems Sony's aiming more for the multimedia junkies than the game junkies. It's the multimedia wars between Microsoft and Sony that Nintendo is sitting out of. Nintendo's route is to win over gamers of all skill levels...and mix in some non-gamers while their at it.

Nintendo's already created some interesting stories! I read about somebody's granddad bowling for the first time in years thanks to Wii Sports - Bowling! I mean...

If you read this entire rambling...pat yourself on the back ; I lost myself there >_<; Sorry...

 

[Shadow1psc]

http://aussie-nintendo.com/index.php?v=news&p=7708

 

[x42bn6]

You may dump this in Portal News if you want, I am bored of seeing the destroyed XBox.

But there are lots of ways to measure success and actual sales volume is only one of them. Though most reports I have read involve Wii being more interesting while lambasting XBox 360 and PS3 for just having better graphics and sound. Whether or not it is bandwagon stuff or not is a totally different thing.

That said, is it just me or is the next-generation console thing generating much less attention than XBox, PS2 and GameCube? ...*

 

[Speedy]

I liked Nintendo more when I was younger. The games are all more playful and happier so they appealed to me more when I was a little kid. As I got older I wanted more gory and shooter games so I switched to Playstation. I'll have to see how I like the Wii because my preference might change.

 

[TroiK-]

I want a mother ****in wii.

 

[ChrisH36]

It had quite a few promising games to start with. Plus, an innovative controller system. I would say they did pretty well considering each was $279.99 CDN/unit.

My friend is choosing Wii over Xbox 360 and PS3.

I myself am too forgetful for console gaming, because I am one of those people who thinks PC > All. But I wouldn't mind trying a few of the Wii titles.

However, I would give it time. It still needs some more mature games, much like the PS2 or XBox or PC had.

 

[ReiGn]

Anybody else see the software sales in japan for the Wii?

Wii: 371,936

Wii Sports: 176,880
Wii Play: 171,888
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess: 145,068
Odoru Made in Wario: 63,086
Swing Golf Pangya: 12,673
Ennichi no Tatsujin: 10,192
SD Gundam SCAD Hammers: 9,801
Red Steel: 8,823
Tamagotchi Pika Pika Daitouryou: 6,994
Elebits: 6,505

http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/2006/12/05/103,1165299396,64011,0,0.html

Those are some pretty bad numbers...

 

[bamthedoc]

Those are launch weekend sales, man! The system has sold out, and nearly all games have seen the same result!

 

[Emperor Pan I]

Anybody else see the software sales in japan for the Wii?

Wii: 371,936

Wii Sports: 176,880
Wii Play: 171,888
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess: 145,068
Odoru Made in Wario: 63,086
Swing Golf Pangya: 12,673
Ennichi no Tatsujin: 10,192
SD Gundam SCAD Hammers: 9,801
Red Steel: 8,823
Tamagotchi Pika Pika Daitouryou: 6,994
Elebits: 6,505

http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/2006/12/05/103,1165299396,64011,0,0.html

Those are some pretty bad numbers...

So the wii sells 300,000 opening weekend, and software sales are close to double the number of wii and thats bad? For every wii, one game was purchased, and for around 223,161 systems, a second game was purchased. and its been a week.

 

[bamthedoc]

It's been less than a week since the December 1 release of the Japanese Wii

 

[Emperor Pan I]

It's been less than a week since the December 1 release of the Japanese Wii

it's a business week.

 

[ReiGn]

I'm just saying that even if it has only been what....2 weeks? 12k is still a pretty bad number. And Why is Elebits selling like shit? That game owns

I think the attach rate was 1.8, similar to the PS3.

 

[bamthedoc]

1.5 million in two weeks is sad? Those worldwide numbers make indicated X-Box 360 sales look like a snail's pace. I'll note that Microsoft says they sold more units, yet they are completely unwilling to release actual results. They just use "shipped units" as their "sold units" numbers. I'd really love to know how long they think they can get away with that. =/ They used this same tactic to make people believe that they sold more X-Box units on a worldwide scale than the GameCube (by only 0.3 million units mind you). Most analysts agree that the fact that Nintendo is actually willing to release sales numbers rather than shipped numbers, the actual gap between the X-Box and GameCube sales may be either smaller or negative (as in the GameCube actually outsold the X-Box).

You can walk into any store and find plenty of 360s sitting on shelves. What you can't find, except for a few hours after the latest shipment, are Wii and PS3 units. This may be the "hype" of a new system, but we'll see much more declaration of what is "sad" or "good" in the months to come when supply is given ample time to catch up with demand.

AS IT STANDS NOW, selling through one hundred percent of stock is a good day, not a sad one. Few systems can eclipse those sales numbers, and the NDS is the only "year old" system that has even begun to show signs that it can match sales numbers like that!

I'll also note that if 1.5 million units is sad, then 0.5 million (PS3) is even sadder. Let's keep in mind that that's one hundred percent of shipped stock! I'll again remind everybody that any assumptions are idiotic. We should wait until supply has a chance to meet demand. If the NDS is any indication, Nintendo might not ever be able to match Wii supply to its demand, however, within the next year or two. I hope that's the case, but, as I've told multiple people, I'd love to be able to own all the consoles. They each offer something different. I, however, prefer the Nintendo brand.

 

[ReiGn]

1.5 Million? where'd those numbers come from?

I'm not even talking about hardware sales. I'm only pointing out that the software sales of the 3rd party games on the Wii is bad compared to the first few weeks of sales of the PS3's and 360's sales. Again, Software. Not Hardware.

 

[bamthedoc]

We also have to keep in mind that the PS3 and X-Box 360 rely nearly exclusively on third-party games. Even with the Wii and NDS, Nintendo is still a first-party developer, and an excellent one at that. At the moment, fans are hyped that Nintendo is getting the third-party support, but they are worried that those developers aren't quite up to the challenge of producing games for Nintendo systems yet.

When people realize that Madden '07 is funner to play on the Wii or that there are fun third-party games that actually realize some, if not all, the Wii's potential, those titles will start to pick up. Until then, give it time! With the N64 and GameCube, fans became disgruntled with many third-party developers because (a) they didn't bring as many top-rated games to the Nintendo consoles, (b) they would port top-rated games from the N64 or GameCube to the competition, or (c) they would put games that would have fit the N64 or GameCube better than the competition onto the competition.

Yes. The third-party support is there. They also realize that they can't "overnight" popularity with Nintendo faithful. They need to prove they can bring top-rated games to the Wii and/or NDS and keep it there only when they say "exclusive" or keep it there when they promise it.

As an example, Resident Evil 4 was promised to only be on the GameCube, but Capcom moved it to the PS2 to bolster sales and profit. As an example, Blizzard just can't seem to decide if Starcraft Ghost is going to be "all consoles" or just Sony and Microsoft. It's not that the games aren't good. It's that the fanbase has lost trust in these third-parties. They don't know if the games will be as good. They don't know that the time and money has been adequately paid. They just don't know if the third-parties are serious about the Wii. Why do you think Ubisoft pushed so hard to prove they were going to be serious? Why do you think EA and Disney have opened studios devoted to Wii production? Why do you think many other developers are following the aforementioned precedent?

I don't expect third-party titles to be all that hot compared to Nintendo-produced titles for a while now.



((The 1.5 million comes from the "slightly over one-million" units sold in the US combined with the over three-hundred thousand sold in Japan. If I recall, US sales are something like 1.0 to 1.2 million strong, so I'm going with the high-end to estimate.))