Why *I* think we invaded Iraq

phreakerhaxxor

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This is just what I think, go ahead, roll on the ground and laugh, and please post comments, dont be a bitch about it.

I think it was 10 year ago was it when Sadam invaded Kuwait and the US had permission from the UN to attack them back.
We had Sadam under supervision and made sure he had no chemical weapons with our inspectors, then Sadam started kicking them out and firing at our airplanes flying over Iraq, of course Clinton never acted on this.

Now, with Bush in office after 9/11 we went on this little hunt for Osama Bin Laden and and decided to go after Sadam with what he did in Kuwait, and our suspections of chemical weapons. Bush did not use 9/11 as an excuse to start a war in Iraq, Iraq had this coming for the past 10 years. Mainly Sadam since he was the dictator there.




Thats what *I* think regardless of how stupid you may think it sounds, I like Bush, i like what he believes in and how he doesn't let terrorists get away with 9/11. Seeing as how Clinton reactec to past Terrorist incidences, if he was in office, the world might be gone by now. You also got to take in the fact that Bush has never been president and he had just got elected and had to deal with 9/11, i think he did an awesome job too. What the hell do you think?

Kuzmitch, keep the america sucks comments out...and I really don't want to hear the word "motherland" in this thread.
 

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isnt it that saddam was in violation of something around 11 un resolutions? if they werent doing anything about them when they were commited, why should america wait for another 10 years to do something? why wait for the un to get their thumbs out of their asses and do something about it. Maybe war would have been prevented if the UN had stepped in and shut down saddam in some way, :Unsure but something needed to be done and it was done by bush. The un is just the league of nations all over again. it served its purpose before but not enough nations have support in it and it has no real power and its not like the un constantly is exerting its power, seems more like they run on who pays them to do what. but thats my thought

its kuwait
 

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Yeah i think it did have something to do with breaking "un resolutions" too or whatever, but like I said, he had it coming irregardless.


Clinton was also too pussy to do anything about him kicking our weapons inspectors out of Iraq either. He was the reason it took 10 years to get off our asses, we'd still be on them if Bush wasn't elected.


This is good keep it coming, thats your opinion, ive stated mine.
 

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well, either we do something now or saddam obtains nukes and bye bye israel. i like israel and im very positive saddam would sell nuclear weapons to people like arafat(sp?) and those people would either use the weapon(i doubt...protect the motherland?) or blackmail
 

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We already have Saddam 0.o

Don't say motherland rofl

What makes you think Saddam would nuke israel? I'm just asking...

Politics is like religon, no one will ever say..."Oh I see now! Sorry, you're right."
 

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whatever....

well saddam wouldnt personally nuke israel. he would likely sell/give/move scientists/etc. to muslim countries or terrorists because he is muslim and why not support the cause to get the motherland back? he did provide airforce to egypt durring one or two of the wars between middle east v israel
 

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I personally think we should put everyone who lives in the middle east in timeout.

And by timeout, I mean siberia.

[motherly tone]
ISRAEL! PALLESTINE! SAUDI ARABIA! MIND YOUR MANNERS! GO SIT IN SIBERIA FOR 20 YEARS! IF YOU GUYS CAN'T SHARE NICELY, YOU WON'T GET ISRAEL AT ALL!
[/motherly tone]

And also, with any luck, they'll start a war there and kill Kuzmich. Two birds with one stone.
 

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Clinton wasn't a "pussy"...he put politics first. No one wants a war, Clinton tried to resolve it without violence, the way it should have been done. You guys act like he wasn't doing his job because he was too busy "getting some", but he was taking care of it. Notice why all of this "bad" terrorist stuff didn't start hitting home till Bush was put in office...
 

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Agreed. Clinton was a GOOD president, in my opinion.
 

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jd-inflames said:
Clinton wasn't a "pussy"...he put politics first. No one wants a war, Clinton tried to resolve it without violence, the way it should have been done. You guys act like he wasn't doing his job because he was too busy "getting some", but he was taking care of it. Notice why all of this "bad" terrorist stuff didn't start hitting home till Bush was put in office...
totally agree with u , who would want to use a nuke or start a war (lets not remember the america's 2 nukes in japan lol taht was just a beta test... i mean beta tests*)i personally don't thinnk saddam had any intention of using a nuke also. more likely israel would use it if u follow the news.
israel is owning palastenian civilians, badly. boldozing houses/trees/plants... ya i'd rather die then have my house massacred and nothing to eat
 

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phreakerhaxxor said:
I like Bush, i like what he believes in and how he doesn't let terrorists get away with 9/11.
Saddam, after all, was responsible for 9/11.
 

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jd-inflames said:
he put politics first. No one wants a war, Clinton tried to resolve it without violence, the way it should have been done. You guys act like he wasn't doing his job because he was too busy "getting some", but he was taking care of it. Notice why all of this "bad" terrorist stuff didn't start hitting home till Bush was put in office...
Lol. So terrorists can get everything in line and ready to go in 8 months?
 

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Agreed. Clinton was a GOOD president, in my opinion.
Seems to me like Clinton was a good president with a bad personal life, and Bush is a bad president with a good personal life :/

I don't know all about the actions of Iraq during the past couple of decades, but I don't see why so many seem to think our attacks on them are justified. Weapons inspectors not only from the United States but from other countries as well found no evidence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, and despite the fact that we've been in Iraq for months, we still haven't found any weapons.

Why did we attack Iraq in the first place? There are no WOMD and Iraq has never attacked or even threatened the United States. Some say it's because Saddam was a dictator and mistreated his people, but now that we've removed him from power, are the Iraqi civilians really any better off? I doubt it -- the country is in chaos, our soldiers have killed innocent people, and the people there seem to hate us.

I honesly don't know why we attacked Iraq. Maybe my information is incorrect, in which case I would like someone to correct me.

who would want to use a nuke or start a war
My question exactly.
 

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he only moved to canada to dodge the draft....

8 months sounds about right
That's bullshit. If the draft is reinstated I would probably go to Canada. Why the **** should I fight for something I don't believe in?
 

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Clinton wasn't a coward for deciding not to serve his country. The draft is outrageous, it should be a choice. I would have done the same thing, does that make me a coward? No, it means I value my life. And I also refuse to fight in a war that doesn't need to be fought.
 

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cxoli said:
Seems to me like Clinton was a good president with a bad personal life, and Bush is a bad president with a good personal life :/

I don't know all about the actions of Iraq during the past couple of decades, but I don't see why so many seem to think our attacks on them are justified. Weapons inspectors not only from the United States but from other countries as well found no evidence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, and despite the fact that we've been in Iraq for months, we still haven't found any weapons.

Why did we attack Iraq in the first place? There are no WOMD and Iraq has never attacked or even threatened the United States. Some say it's because Saddam was a dictator and mistreated his people, but now that we've removed him from power, are the Iraqi civilians really any better off? I doubt it -- the country is in chaos, our soldiers have killed innocent people, and the people there seem to hate us.

I honesly don't know why we attacked Iraq. Maybe my information is incorrect, in which case I would like someone to correct me.



My question exactly.

he skipped the UN rsolutions, and 12 inteligance agencys INCLUDING RUSSIAS, said he had WMD, attacked our allies, I could go on all day
 

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Ya cant blame the UN, they told bush that they would not support a war, so they obviously wouldnt have gone in for any reason. Its startin to bug me the subtle differences people seem to make between 9/11 and the war on iraq, 9/11 is a scape goat, thats all it is, it was commited by "terrorists" following the influence of Bin Laden,from afghanistan, sadam probably couldnt give 2 shits about that bcuz hes tryin to run his country. Besides the only thing that could PHYSICALLY proove the cause of the war would b that bush lost his mind. (cuz everything else is speculation and here-say) So the next time someone tells you to vote for bush, u ask them to visit the familys of the 1000+ soldiers hes sent to there deaths.

*plus i bet it didnt help the fact that the b4 then the country was in a horrible state (not that it was much better b4 all this happened anyway) and bush needed a well known "enemy" to go after, and since they couldnt find osama, they went for a public figure, Sadam*
 

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jd-inflames said:
Clinton wasn't a coward for deciding not to serve his country. The draft is outrageous, it should be a choice. I would have done the same thing, does that make me a coward? No, it means I value my life. And I also refuse to fight in a war that doesn't need to be fought.
yea.... whatever ! Regaurdless of the situation, you should still serve your country! Everyone values their life but it seems to me your more of a ignorant/selfish coward!

the draft was brought around because we didnt have a sufficient amount of troops in then wars.... hell id be glad to have the draft right now.... it would give a chance for those who have been there for a long period of time to come back and see their family. But now we have reserves to be called upon instead of a draft. In my opinion there will never be another draft unless WWIII comes around.
 

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Here's an idea: If we don't have enough troops just don't go to war. Problem solved, no draft involved.
 

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