What do you think of this?

[Raccoon]

"Agent Smith tells Morpheus, "I’d like to share a revelation that I’ve had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species. I’ve realized that you are not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment. But you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus." This is perhaps the most telling line in the first film. At this point the story line presents a comment on the audience: we, the human species, do not behave like ordinary mammals, and so we could permanently lose our place in nature. Instead of inhabiting the natural world, we infest it, like a plague."

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I've come to this conclusion myself many times in discussions with some of my 'smarter' friends. What do you think?

 

[Carbon]

i don't know why you would agree with this theory from a movie when the scene preceding it explains how our world isn't real but just a simulation.

 

[Octopor]

I don't think much of it.

I'm usually just enjoying the fact at how we ****ed ourselves over.

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i don't know why you would agree with this theory from a movie when the scene preceding it explains how our world isn't real but just a simulation.

Why does it matter what the next scene is.

We're focusing on that scene, and Smith's point is true.

 

[Jason]

I'm sure that the Wachowski brothers were really on to something. They couldn't be just making a movie. It's obviously the unravelled truth about mankind.

 

[Raccoon]

The Matrix has been 'proven' that there is a tie to religion/Christianity. They are trying to say what seperates us from the animals is our Sin.

 

[Arkillo]

The Matrix was also ripped directly from a book that some 40 year old lady wrote and published herself. It was never a big book, but the W. brothers ripped almost exactally everything on it.

Unlucky for the lady she didn't file proper copyrights, and didn't have a company to do so, as she published it herself and the W. Brothers got away with it. That and the fact that they immediatly shelled out #2 and #3 to claim that it was all originally their work. That being said...back to the topic.

What he says is true to an extent. We arn't like normal mamals, because we do basically, what we want. We were giving a few extra things to decide our fate, unlike any other mammal. "God" or "evolution" or whatever method that brought us into this world you believe in all gave us some distinct advantages over the rest of the species so that we could thrive and exist. Yet, us being man, we've abused this.

Please see; World War I, World War II, Slavery, Cuban Missle Crisis, Canada, Gulf War and The Korean War for reasons why we abused our free thought.

 

[Ntrik_]

Survival of the fittest anyone?

I think you guys are just overreacting on a movie quotation.... the main advantages that humans may have over the other animals are intelligence, and conscience. Because we can use these things to overpower the other species of mammals, we can keep multiplying and use up all the sources........

Without these qualities, we may as well be extinct by now, thats just my thoughts, now I'm going to get flamed.


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It may very well be a fact that, if were to have this discussion 100 years ago, then you would not agree with what you've just said at the start.

 

[Carbon]

i agree with N_. We are are the only species that have adapted to our enviroment with enhanced brains. Other organisms have strength, speed, and height to help them survive. We have adapted with our brains like polar bears develop thick fur or giraffes have long necks.

 

[Emperor Pan I]

Canada. Come on people, it's funny. Ugh, my humor is lost on you guys, except Jay.

Your insults are a direct reslut of jealousy.

I beleive mankind is nothing but a plague, and our lives is just a big joke, nothing more than a dot in the line of a large book. Mankind is so inconsequencial, it doesn't really matter in the end. Were all dieing, and we all end up in the same decaying organic compost.

 

[Raccoon]

Is anyone familiar with Easter Island here?

 

[Trojan]

You mean the island with those retarded looking head things?

 

[Raccoon]

You mean the island with those retarded looking head things?

You guys need to read this.

Easter Island

It basically explains how people came to the island somehow and set up camp. As humans, they consumed the island past the point of no return. They stripped the island of ALL the trees and basically left themselves with nothing. Theorists say that in the end they resorted to cannibalism in order to survive as they had exhausted all the other resources on the island. With no trees left, no boats could be constructed for escape. The islanders of the Easter Island pretty much did what we are doing to the earth. Self-destruction.

If you read the site, you'll notice striking similarities between the human race of today and the islanders of Easter.

In my honest opinion, the human race will be extinct unless we develop our space program IMMENSELY and are able to colonize beyond Earth. Otherwise, we're ****ed.

 

[Arkillo]

Oh, people have been saying that for years, Raccoon. The fact is that it won't effect our generation at all. It'll be at least another hundred years before we're out of everything.

 

[Raccoon]

Oh, people have been saying that for years, Raccoon. The fact is that it won't effect our generation at all. It'll be at least another hundred years before we're out of everything.

False hope.

Top scientists are giving the Earth (by which I mean humans) 30 years before things start really going to shit.

 

[Arkillo]

False hope.

Top scientists are giving the Earth (by which I mean humans) 30 years before things start really going to shit.

Yeah, but still, the majority of us will be dead before it gets to the extremes.

 

[Ntrik_]

Yeah, but still, the majority of us will be dead before it gets to the extremes.

and well, looks like 750 of them still survived in the end, and manage to live on until they were sent to slave market.


Who knows? We'll have like 1000 humans on Earth and prosper, again.

 

[_JaKE]

yes move to arcane plz

@ topic, there is n0thing we can do, we MUST consume to live, like easter island, and in the end well have no resourses, not even enough to biuld a space ship, like in easter island, and there is nothing we can do about it, so yes, were ****ed, unless, thieres a 30-70 chance we will have new technoligy in 30 years that will save us, or bring us to a new location to consume that place for another million years, again and again. and that is life, we die, we get reborn, we die. so yes agent smiths word hold some meaning and truthful meaning.

 

[Carbon]

everything has a begining and an ending

 

[N[U]TS]

I’ve realized that you are not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment. But you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus."

I've come to this conclusion myself many times in discussions with some of my 'smarter' friends. What do you think?

a little off topic but interesting none the less

Ironically my history professor was talking of how the puritans came to "the new world" for religious purpouses but he also expressed the economic view. If you look back...it was pretty expensive to travel to "the new world". With that said you can conclude that the religious view is just a cover up for the profit others could make in "the new world". Meaning taking land to cut down trees and send back for the english to build more ships. Then it goes on with tobacoo etc.

Also if you still think the people who wanted religious freedom from the catholic church moved to "the new world" based only on that well then consider this.... why were authority figures called "visible saints" established in each town that could rule over the goverment, economic and religious rules. Everything had to go through him...even when you prayed. its basically just like a pope but with quite a bit more power.

anyways the point that came across with this is we expanded to "the new world" to consume natrual resources for our own benefits.

 

[DB]

a little off topic but interesting none the less

Ironically my history professor was talking of how the puritans came to "the new world" for religious purpouses but he also expressed the economic view. If you look back...it was pretty expensive to travel to "the new world". With that said you can conclude that the religious view is just a cover up for the profit others could make in "the new world". Meaning taking land to cut down trees and send back for the english to build more ships. Then it goes on with tobacoo etc.

Also if you still think the people who wanted religious freedom from the catholic church moved to "the new world" based only on that well then consider this.... why were authority figures called "visible saints" established in each town that could rule over the goverment, economic and religious rules. Everything had to go through him...even when you prayed. its basically just like a pope but with quite a bit more power.

anyways the point that came across with this is we expanded to "the new world" to consume natrual resources for our own benefits.

... The Puritans were the ones in England who stayed to try to "purify" the Church of England. If you're thinking about the Anglicans who moved to Jamestown and to look for gold, but found none and eventually moved on to cash crops, then I guess you'd say you're right.

The Puritans who left for the New World, were called the "Separatists, The Scrooby Group, or the Pilgrims." The main reason they moved is because in Holland, their children were adapting and accepting the other religious beliefs and morals found there, and they did not like that. Then they asked the VA Company if they could move there and got the OK, but landed in Cape Cod.