What do you think of a 1.19 that

[Emperor Pan I]

added new heros. No not jsut neutral heros. How about adding one new hero to the four races. Balance and crap can be added later just like with neutral heros. It would create a more interesting gaming atmosphere. Plus the foru races would have some more strats.

And on that note, what aobut adding a unit to each race to in some way or another to balance out the racial weaknesses. Of course balance could be achieved if you monitor the game through a beta period. But that would so pwn.

 

[x42bn6]

Yeah, I agree. Night Elves with a Strength Hero could do quite well, for example. Problem is, with such a game, there would need to be a storyline in the campaign behind it. -.-; The second expansion for Warcraft III, perhaps?

What would be even better is the mechanisms behind the spells would definitely help mapmakers. At the moment, a lot of good spells require triggering. Of course, the new heroes shouldn't be DotA-ish for obvious reasons.

I'm a fan of unpredictability. At the moment, it's obvious what strategies should be used against what race. Whatever happened to the Dryad? The Frost Wyrm? If these units became usable again, it would be interesting.*

 

[Revelade]

Um... Dryads are commonly used...

 

[x42bn6]

Um... Dryads are commonly used...

As in mass Dryads. They used to be very good for very weak units, but nobody would think of massing them now.*

 

[Biske]

Yeah, that would be very nice if somehow they balanced it out so well, that every unit could be used, instead with every patch, some unit is dropped off the list, and people learn that massing the rebuffed units gets them wins. So what I'm saying is, fix it so we have a plethora of strategies, seemingly never ending possibilities in battle...

 

[ChrisH36]

As in mass Dryads. They used to be very good for very weak units, but nobody would think of massing them now.*

See someone hasn't herd of Bears and Dryads... :frustrate

 

[Ntrik_]

See someone hasn't herd of Bears and Dryads... :frustrate

which gets raped by few wyverns hardcore.

New heros? I dont know, it wont really change my strategy, Im still using my old BO from RoC.

 

[ChrisH36]

We do, its to make up for the fact that 1.18 hit most of the neutral heroes with a nerf stick!

 

[IceDevil9]

Ya, the nerfs on the nuetral heroes were terrible, and I rarely even use them as it stands. New heroes for each race would be nice, I agree, but they would have to run it through Westfall again.

There's a counter for almost every strategy out there, so of course anything can 'get pwned' by anything else, so that's not really a fair argument, but I think we need some major balances. When you can get owned by mass (and incredibly weak) casters [Human] when you've got Wyvs and two lvl 6 heroes, somethings not right.

-Frank

 

[Emperor Pan I]

The neutal changes i agree with personaly.
The most used and abused were slightly nerfed. The panda nerf and Beast master nerf were a necessity. Firelord, I never see but is still remarkabley powerful.

buffing the Naga, Tinker and the Alchemist were a nice change

 

[ChrisH36]

If you use Incinerate as a passive on low hp life forms. You can easily destroy them no sweat. I guess the 6 mana/shot nerf was pretty worth it.

 

[Biske]

I think they should add some new over-all concepts to the game. Like, one I was thinking about, don't know if anyone else thought about it, but wouldn't it be more of a challange if like, for every 5 skeletons raised from a certain player, that it lowered moral for the soldiers on that side, by like, reduceing attack speed and damage for alittle bit? Kinda making it more realistic, cuz, wouldn't you be freaked if your best bud fell in battle, then was raised up again to fight against you?

 

[Ntrik_]

I think they should add some new over-all concepts to the game. Like, one I was thinking about, don't know if anyone else thought about it, but wouldn't it be more of a challange if like, for every 5 skeletons raised from a certain player, that it lowered moral for the soldiers on that side, by like, reduceing attack speed and damage for alittle bit? Kinda making it more realistic, cuz, wouldn't you be freaked if your best bud fell in battle, then was raised up again to fight against you?

I think you're talking about Warcraft 4

 

[ChrisH36]

Shh..... lets not talk about the future of Warcraft!

Morale is over-rated, then the undead would have the worst morale and the living beings would pwn them easy.

 

[Biske]

Well, that's what I mean, it'd have to be worked out - like UD wouldn't have morale, so make it so the factors are only so much so it doesn't give them a huge advantage or whatever, anyway....

 

[Ntrik_]

Well, that's what I mean, it'd have to be worked out - like UD wouldn't have morale, so make it so the factors are only so much so it doesn't give them a huge advantage or whatever, anyway....

What you're saying sounds alot like Hero and Magic or w/e the name is. But would be interesting to see.

 

[IceDevil9]

A whole new game concept would take a lot of time and testing, and would take many tutorials and lots of time to introduce and make people familiar with.

Sounds like something way beyond the scope of Warcraft 3 as it is.

-Frank

 

[Emperor Pan I]

They put that in Warhammer 40k. LEts not put it in WCIII, lets not ruin Warcraft

 

[ChrisH36]

A whole new game concept would take a lot of time and testing, and would take many tutorials and lots of time to introduce and make people familiar with.

Sounds like something way beyond the scope of Warcraft 3 as it is.

-Frank

Final Fantasy Tactics did that, but then you play the game and you learn it in like 5 seconds .

 

[Biske]

It did? Woah, like, the one for PS1? Or GBA? It's been awhile since I played it...loved that game...