Viruses: Living or Non-Living?

[Magikarp]

Originally posted by CelestialBadger
The point is that all argumentation needs to be based off of an agreed upon set of definitions. You can't argue a point based on the fact that your personal definition a word. That being said...

1) Whether you were arguing or not is a moot issue.

2) I disagree. You cannot change the definition of a word based on the fact that viruses exist. If viruses do not meet the current definition of living it doesn't mean that the definition is outdated, it simply means that viruses are not living.

1) Considering that you claimed that I was making an argument, I would naturally point out that I was, in essence, asking a question. It is relevant in the fact that, in order to understand what I am trying to say, you should realize whether I am questioning or asserting.

2) Au contraire, monfraire? Read:

Originally posted by ORC-r0x0r-ROC
Criteria that one may think of that define life include:

1. Movement
2. Sensitivity
3. Death
4. Complexity

Scientists have further refined the criteria to include:

1. Cellular organization
2. Growth and metabolism
3. Reproduction
4. Heredity

According to this, which I am fairly confident is accurate, scientists have modified the requirements for deeming something as "living." I hold scientific definitions in the highest regard; that is, the scientific definition of a word is superior to a word found in a dictionary because it based on logic.

 

[senureMiget]

no things in science are definitions they are theories
hence it is the theory that all living things are mad up of cells
the theory that all organisms start as a single cell
the theory that cells only come from living cells
it is a theory that all live must reproduce on its own machinery and because a virus doesnt it is not living

a definition can not change a theory can

 

[Kuzmich]

Some theories are prooven, and they become facts, we know that organizms are made up of cells, it is a fact that organisms start from a single cell, a fact that cells come only from living cells.

You have most ignorant ideas i heard here so far, i congratulate you.

 

[senureMiget]

how is it proven that all living things are made up of cells if we have not decovered all living things on this planet not to mention others

 

[Magikarp]

Originally posted by senureMiget
how is it proven that all living things are made up of cells if we have not decovered all living things on this planet not to mention others

Lmfao.. you have got to be kidding me.. my faith in the internet dwindles once more..

Listen. One of the requirements for something to be living is if it has cells or a cell. Think about it for a moment, then get back to me.

 

[TrongaMonga]

Virus aren't living. I'm perhaps repeating someone else, but they are only a piece of genetic code that has priority if they touch a cell. At least most of them. That's mainly what the white globules do, they absorb the virus genetic code, but aren't changed by it because they won't give it priority over their own code.

But, of course, there are virus that have gone over it.