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What do you think about it?

is there other life...?

is faster space travel achievable...?(its probably possible but can us as humans achieve it?)

last frontier?
 

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I cant see space, so it doesn't exist.
 

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I think that our Universe would be greatly improved if you were removed from it.
 

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What do you think about it?

is there other life...?

is faster space travel achievable...?(its probably possible but can us as humans achieve it?)

last frontier?
1) As a christian, I believe we are the only life forms that exist. On the other hand -- whos to say God did not create other things?

2) I think we will get there eventually. I mean way back when -- no one thought a human could fly but look at us now :)

3) What exactly do you mean by last frontier?
 

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Where is most likely other life, its a big chunk of something out where so the probability that our planet is somehow special and unique as far as life goes is minuscule. As for space travel, most likely yes, technology is moving a lot faster then our imagination, a hundred years ago no one could imagine a TV or internet, or cellphones yet now we can't live without em (well I don't watch TV but its a general statement) so yes most likely then not unless we discover some sort of a physical law that prevents us from doing so; we will be able to travel fast enough to get into other solar systems...that is if we don't nuke each other in the next 20-30 years which seems a lot more probable.
 

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1) As a christian, I believe we are the only life forms that exist. On the other hand -- whos to say God did not create other things?

2) I think we will get there eventually. I mean way back when -- no one thought a human could fly but look at us now :)

3) What exactly do you mean by last frontier?

That's why christianity is retarded, we personally will never see anythingclose to space travel other than to the moon, and MAYBE mars, but likely not as it's something like 10 years away at our top speeds, and "last frontier" generally refers to the end of the universe, where there is nothing past a certain point.

I think that if anyone honestly thinks we're the ONLY planet out of the TRILLIONS out there with lifeforms, then they need to kill themselves. Seriously, there's trillions of planets. If you look in the sky in a farm in the middle of North Carolina with zero lights around (no city lights a few miles out, no lights anywhere near you) on a perfectly clear day, you can see maybe 300 stars. People seem to think that that's it, theres no more, but that's not true. In fact, the truth of it all is that there are nearly a limitless amount of stars, and a good majority of them have solar system like setups with a few planets here and there. To think that we're the ONLY ones out of ALL the space that is living is stupid.

Minus warping (which would be a good name for a band, btw), the fastest speed achievable is Light Speed, which even if we could travel at that we're still not going to get far. Until we find some kind of warp drive or warp object, we likely won't even get out of our own solar system. In fact, check this out.

http://www.news.wisc.edu/newsphotos/images/Milky_Way_galaxy_sun05.jpg (it's like a 2000x2000 image so I took the tag out)

See where it says "Sun"? That's us. All those little dots represent stars, likely with their own solar systems in them. And that's just the Milky Way Galaxy. In fact, here we go, let's look deeper shall we?


This is a map of all the major known superclusters within two billion light years plotted onto the supergalactic plane. Each point on this map is a rich cluster of galaxies containing hundreds of galaxies as listed in Abell's catalog of rich clusters of galaxies. This map does not show every rich cluster but only those which are grouped together into large supercluster formations. Each of these superclusters must also contain hundreds or maybe thousands of smaller groups of galaxies. This map is clearly not complete, the plane of our galaxy runs approximately down the centre of the map and most astronomers prefer to study galaxies that are far away from this plane where there is a lot less gas and dust obscuring our view of the universe. This explains why most of the known superclusters are on the left and right sides of the map.
The nearest closest other star to us is something like 13 light years away, and we're incredibly far away from being able to travel at that speed.

So what have I showed you? That's it pretty much theoretically impossible for us to be alone in the universe. Does that mean we're ever going to make contact with other lifeforms? No, it just means that the possibility is out there.


Also, the "last frontier" doesn't exist. Space if ever expanding, as seen here;


And yes, every one of the pictures above is either from new scientist magazine. or been featured in it. I'm a space nut, and the possibility of an endless universe out there amazes me so I spend a good portion of time on this kinda stuff on a daily basis.
 

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That's why christianity is retarded, we personally will never see anythingclose to space travel other than to the moon, and MAYBE mars, but likely not as it's something like 10 years away at our top speeds, and "last frontier" generally refers to the end of the universe, where there is nothing past a certain point.
It doesn't make Christianity retarded.
 

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How does it not make it retarded? I'm a well known aetheist, but I don't bash on religions ever for the most part. But the fact that it's in Christianity docterine that we are the only beings in existence is one of the most ignorant statements, ever.

Now granted, this did come around WAY before all the stuff we know now, so I'll let it slide for the most part, but the people that actually believe that it's true because Christianity says it is, need a reality check.
 

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How does it not make it retarded? I'm a well known aetheist, but I don't bash on religions ever for the most part. But the fact that it's in Christianity docterine that we are the only beings in existence is one of the most ignorant statements, ever.

Now granted, this did come around WAY before all the stuff we know now, so I'll let it slide for the most part, but the people that actually believe that it's true because Christianity says it is, need a reality check.
So thats what pisses you off? Really? They also believe that a magical invisible man created us humans, that no matter what we do our path is predetermined by that invisible man and that the first woman actually came out of the first man. Meh, religion had its uses in the past centuries it was a good way to keep the stupids (aka the uneducated masses) from getting any bright ideas about revolting against their tyrannical monarchs and the church, religion is an instrument that for most part of the human history was used as a perfect explanation for why tyrannical hierarchies should exist. Now its...I don't even know, I guess even with the free flow of information and much better education majority of the population are still those same old stupids that crave having an excuse to never use their brain and like to believe that they have no free will.
 

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I don't see what's wrong with them having faith or some form of it, but the whole "we're completely alone" is stupid. And they are two different things.
 

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I'm not using a source, I'm using the fact that the guy just said that he was a christian so he believed they were alone. I'm saying his type of people -- not the entire christianity religion.
 

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warp drive, where art thou? as souless stated, its a possibility. for me feel like the majority of the lifeforms are either still forming or primitive or maybe around our level.

at times i think i was born in the wrong time. for now i would settle for space colonies/mars since it seems kinda possible atm minus the cost lulz. giant mechs are a plus :D
if the whole world was able to cooperate in a space program(unlikely), how far do you guys think we can get?
 

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@macman: i do concede I had no ****ing clue about a lot of the **** i posted back then in AS. I was wrong on a lot of those issues so if you want to continue giving me **** for it after I've seen the error of my ways fine.
Oh TBS, you card! You're still up to your same old retarded tricks! Let me be blunt: you still don't know what the **** you're talking about, and you're still a goddamn moron. Hey! While we're at it, do you have any essay prompts we can help you with for your history class, just like in the good ol' days? Whaddya say, buddy?
 

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Oh TBS, you card! You're still up to your same old retarded tricks! Let me be blunt: you still don't know what the **** you're talking about, and you're still a goddamn moron. Hey! While we're at it, do you have any essay prompts we can help you with for your history class, just like in the good ol' days? Whaddya say, buddy?
sounds like fun, let me get my stencils
 

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