T~Are Valks really worth using?

[Aeris22]

valks have one problem they suck for one on one air battles since they do low lv splash damage its hard to take out one ship at a time but great for fleets personaly i build a few valks to take out any intercpeter that try to get in my base

 

[AKA-47]

carriers do get owned by valks, if u aim them and not let hem fire the interceptors

U cant center fire with valks, they will fire at 8 different targets anyway.

 

[TrongaMonga]

yes, but if u aim to a carrier, they will shoot at the carriers. Just like psi storm, spalsh dmg also.

 

[blockerx]

valks dont aim at 8 different guys there attack is a spray aimed at a specific unit. the splashg is the area around each missle

 

[AKA-47]

No, if u check out the map editor u can see that the unit statistics say "max hits: 8", valks dont deal splash damage.

 

[coRtALoS]

Originally posted by AKA-47
No, if u check out the map editor u can see that the unit statistics say "max hits: 8", valks dont deal splash damage.

Heh, I hate to have to disprove you man, but I also found this on Blizzard's site...

"The Valkyrie employs an air-to-air attack that issues a volley of eight small missiles at its target. The missiles impact not only on their target, but also damage any enemy units within a 3 x 3 matrix area. Each missile does a small amount of splash damage in this target area."

I never usually try to find ways of saying you're wrong... you're the most knowledgable members on the forums... but I always thought they did do splash damage too.

 

[AKA-47]

Ok, maybe they do deal splash damage, my bad. But they dont fire all 8 missiles at one target, they fire 8 missiles on a small area. If there are 8 units in the area, each target will get hit by one missile. U can see this in a game since all targets die at the same time.

 

[zerg_slayer(IC)]

you have a point AKA

 

[Aiek]

Worth using? Definately. I wouldn't count on them as a major part of your army however. I usually build 3-5 of them and use them either for base defense or eliminating scourge threats to my wraith.

Also, I have to agree with AKA-47...when your valks battle a swarm of mutas, wraiths etc - they all die nearly exactly the same time.

 

[U-238]

i wouldn't say worthless b-cause the valks i know the make 6 dmg but if u make a drop and the other player uses air defence likr mutalisks or devourers the valks will attack the (obiusly) but they attack really fast so they r not worthless

 

[TrongaMonga]

Originally posted by AKA-47
Ok, maybe they do deal splash damage, my bad. But they dont fire all 8 missiles at one target, they fire 8 missiles on a small area. If there are 8 units in the area, each target will get hit by one missile. U can see this in a game since all targets die at the same time.

Same happens when u use tanks, reavers, bats, lurkers, templars, archons, corsairs.

But I agree, they fire at 8 fellers but also spalsh

 

[AKA-47]

No, i have never seen a tank center fire at a lurker and killing both that lurker and another one at the exact same time. Splash damage is a % of the total damage dealt by the unit, a tank's splash damage isn't 70 damage its more like 20-30.

 

[Renzokuken]

A tank would do the exact same dmg to a lurk and one stacked-burrowed under it, wouldnt it?

 

[TrongaMonga]

ah i see what u mean.

I was talking of multi units, like, if u have 6 tanks, they kill hydras all the same time...

my mistake

 

[Aeris22]

splash damage wasnt made to kill mutliple units at once it was made to weaken a force as a whole

 

[AKA-47]

A tank would do the exact same dmg to a lurk and one stacked-burrowed under it, wouldnt it?

No.

 

[Wing Zero]

Originally posted by Renzokuken
A tank would do the exact same dmg to a lurk and one stacked-burrowed under it, wouldnt it?

what the heck do u mean im lost

 

[Renzokuken]

Originally posted by AKA-47
No.

Why not? If they are both burrowed and EXACTLY stacked, i can't see why it wouldnt.

 

[AKA-47]

Because the tank aims at one of the lurkers, so naturally the lurker that takes the hit will get hurt the most.

 

[Renzokuken]

*sigh* Maybe your right. I just can't see the logic.