Out of control 10 year olds@!11

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ok..... firstly IT IS NEVER the childs fault they dont have this all programmed into them...parents should be good examples and if there child is having dificulties they should do something about it.children have to know who is boss and shouldnt be spoilt.. it human nature to rebel you cant stop it....

and you have all forgotten that mostly they smoke ect because of friends do it. pier pressure is a majour factor.i think parents should tell them the pro's and cons of thing but never say someting like "i forbid you to smoke" this is something to rebel against.parents should watch out for friends that are bad examples..i think if a child is in contact with older people (past teens and NOT there parents)there less likely to get in trouble..
i personally think that the more intelligent the child the less trouble he/she will get into
 

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dont give your kids everything they want! i'm 13 and i dont have a ps2 or x-box. my parents were smart and didint buy me anything i want. you have to have some restraint with your kids, or they will run wild. if they do run wild though, dont slaughter them, they will just find a way to hurt you. you have to lay down the law, by taking away priveliges, stuff, and outside time, in that order.
 

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true you cant spoil them... but the most important thing to teach them is trust and respect. if you trust your parents and they trust you your set. if your parents are overprotective there is no way the kids will be honest with them so there can be no trust... when they are older let your kids go out and have fun and only stop them if they are making a serious mistake.. they should respect you enough to at least listen to what you have to say even if they disagree. also teach them to think for themself please... that helps everyone else out and common sense is VERY useful yet so rare..... physical punishment should eb very rare and while they are young.


taking away outside time isnt good.... nowadays too many people are inside all the time, focus on making more normal outside people!!! stop making peoploe like me who sit in the basement all day. but maybe keeping them in will make them want to go out more?... i dunno?
 

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half the kids and parents are all ****ing retards and 3/4 of it you can tell its fake. it would be like some pro heavy weight boxing dad and he is like crying about how he cant keep his son in line BULLSHIT thats all i gotta say
 

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the child takes as much blame as the parents
child : why did he got himself into this
parents : they shoud be watching there child more and raise it well so that such things dont happen
but : when the child does it (smokin,drugs...) behind the parents back without the parents knowing the child is all to blame
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Kids for getting into it.
Parents for letting them.

Nuff said.
 

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Originally posted by RoaCh Of DisCord
I'm sure you've all seen the talk shows. Maury, or Jenny Jones, with all these wild and destructive kids. They smoke, they steal, they assault people...just about everything they can do to cause total chaos and get into trouble. The parents seem to think that possibly a talk show could get them the help they need, because their kids just aren't responding and listening to them.

Well, whenever I see these shows, I'm usually in total disbelief. The parents are so stupid! They say their kids do drugs, and alchohol...and skip school...and all this other crap, well, I ask why??!?! These are 8, 9, and 10 year olds we are talking about here. Preteens. How can the parents not control them? I understand that it could definitely be a hard job, but in my eyes these parent's are simply un fit. They don't give any sort of structure, so they don't have control. I simply don't believe the kids are to blame in most cases. Of course they cause the trouble, but the parent's CAN control them. I believe it all relates to how they teach.

So...there's my opinion, now I ask you. Are the parents to blame? Or are the kids simply bad?
I have a cousin who is in prison for... well it is not murder but he beat some one up on the street and next day he died from the wounds. My cousin got 4 years in prison. I blame his parents his mother and his father were both alchoholics then he was 7 his father left, a couple of years ago his mother was hit by a train, she survived ( i am not kidding she was really hit by a train and survived). I think it is not because of the job or anything but because those parents are alcoholics and drug users, if a kid sees that his parents are drinking and not paying attention to him he is going to start drinking too to get that attention. And then of course there are freinds they make you do stuff, they might push those kids towards drinking so basically it takes 1 8 year old child to have a bad drinking family and then he starts drinking himself he will make a whole group of kids drink with him and then everyone in that group will introduce alcohol to over groups and so on.
 

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Re: Re: Out of control 10 year olds@!11

Originally posted by Otmorosok
I have a cousin who is in prison for... well it is not murder but he beat some one up on the street and next day he died from the wounds. My cousin got 4 years in prison. I blame his parents his mother and his father were both alchoholics then he was 7 his father left, a couple of years ago his mother was hit by a train, she survived ( i am not kidding she was really hit by a train and survived). I think it is not because of the job or anything but because those parents are alcoholics and drug users, if a kid sees that his parents are drinking and not paying attention to him he is going to start drinking too to get that attention. And then of course there are freinds they make you do stuff, they might push those kids towards drinking so basically it takes 1 8 year old child to have a bad drinking family and then he starts drinking himself he will make a whole group of kids drink with him and then everyone in that group will introduce alcohol to over groups and so on.
i couldnt put it better myself or.... maybe :) but your right it spreads like wildfire all the pierpressure off other kids. the trick is with alcohol is too let them have it at a early age but not too much tho = / (this is what my parents did) they start to realise its not THAT great and think more lightly of it this will prevent them going out when there 16 or somoething getting pissed as a skunk and doing god knows what
 

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Well your technique was tried on me but it didn't work to its fullest, i do drink and i am 15 but i know my limit, at least i don't usualy wake up one day and don't remember what happened yesterday, it only happened to me a couple of times, and i felt like something good happened. I think that drinking is fine even among the early teens as long they know their limit, i am however against 5 year olds in the computer clubs who drink vodka, cast everyone out, and i can't handle them alone cause there is too many of them and they got knifes and stuff, so i have to call up my freinds to help me handle those kids. One of my freinds was once stabed in the leg with a knife, oh i remember how those kids payed for that.
 

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PLEASE tell me you dont believe that, its all FAKE! jerry springer, all of it, its bs. FAKEEEEEEE
 

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It's the society fault...

Regarding the American society, yours, which is a little different from my own, but will do, you have to realise that it's a society of comsume, where having the best things is what makes you a good person.

In order to have the best things, the parents are most of the time out of home, working, far from the childrens, who then have time to walk around with other abandoned children, who do not have the guide of some experience, mature person, in most things. Therefore, they act as they think they sould, even though the way they choose, the easiest way possible, isn't always the best way. Or should I say, almost never the best way.

The fact that the children and their mates are almost abandoned to grow on theirselves, and in such an untolerant sociecty as the American society (believe me, it is), they learn, from the grocery man, for example, that there's just no possibility to live, even if bad, other than to fight and screw on the others. Which is, of course, a ridiculous way of thinking, but that's what is happening nowadays.

Nevertheless, the kids have differences between them, and some have bigger differences with others.

That's when they form gangs. And that's when they learn the fanaticism of a group, which is being led by some repetitive criminal pre-adult guy, who makes money on selling drugs to the smallest kids, in order to buy guns to defeat the other gangs.

As they have all the time they want to pratice with the guns, some kids, sons of wealthy people, sometimes show up in their schools and start firing everywhere.

It's a sick society, the American society...

But it isn't a sickness that's impossible to heal. But it'll take lots of time...

The only time a school slaughter has happened in Europe and in the rest of the world, was in Germany.

But the Germans are known to be general nerds, that have more contact with the Americans culture that with their own parents.
 

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Originally posted by TrongaMonga
It's the society fault...

As they have all the time they want to pratice with the guns, some kids, sons of wealthy people, sometimes show up in their schools and start firing everywhere.

i practice with my guns all the time and i would never go into my school with a gun, and im not popular, im one of the "losers".
 

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Well, not everyone is like you.

I personally find it stupid for kids to even have guns...

But, meh...
 

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Originally posted by mistro5000
dont give your kids everything they want! i'm 13 and i dont have a ps2 or x-box. my parents were smart and didint buy me anything i want. you have to have some restraint with your kids, or they will run wild. if they do run wild though, dont slaughter them, they will just find a way to hurt you. you have to lay down the law, by taking away priveliges, stuff, and outside time, in that order.
My guess is you're the parents themselves. :rollie
 

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Kids like that need a hard slap in the face or two. Usually hitting kids isn't right but if a kid does things like this and swears and swings at their parents they need to be taught who is the boss. Parents need to discipline their kids as they grow up so they learn what they can and can't do because when they get older they are going to get in a LOT of trouble.
 

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no.... you have to develop trust with them. they gotta trust you and you gotta be able to trust them. calling the cops will NOT help develop trust.. itll be like living in the same house with your enemy. you have to deal with your own problems in the family, government cant help you raise your kids.
 

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Although a lot of responsibility for a childs actions is held by parents there also is a lot that our school system should be held responsible for.

One could go so far as to say that our school system often rewards violent actions. At the high school I went to if you got jumped they suspended you even if you looked from behind like someone else. So instead of walking away from a fight you were in a way encouraged to beat the shit out of the other person because then you would get the same punishment.

Also since school is in some cases a violent place you would obviously want to be friends with people that could kick your ass or at least other peoples. In this way a violent person can become popular rather easily. This may cause their behavior to be imitated.
 

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