No god...

[Sly]

a little hypokritical? (im tired, cant spell)

Well, anywayz, I can prove it to myself, because I believe in what I think. But since you don't believe in what I think, then I cant prove anything.

 

[amrtin77]

how is what i said hypocritical?

 

[Sly]

u said u were hearing ignorance, and to me you soundin ignorant yourself sayin god is a bastard if he was real.

but thats just what im thinkin...

 

[amrtin77]

he is. burning people for doubting him? masterbation is punishable by death? the dudes brutal.

 

[Andrew]

i dont see how there can be a god because there is no evidence, only people can SAY it is there

 

[cxoli]

Originally posted by TrongaMonga
What's the Golden Rule?

And, no, it does not discount the 10 commandments. Those are to be followed either there is a God or not.

But a divine being that loves all equally would not have created the woman in second place. Just doesn't makes much sense.

The Golden Rule is, "Treat others as you would like to be treated."

Actually, there are two versions of the creation story. In the first one, God makes man and woman together, at the same time. In the second, He creates woman from the flesh of man, but He does not create her to be second to man, He creates her to be man's partner. In neither one does He create woman in second place.

Originally posted by uFOO
i dont see how there can be a god because there is no evidence, only people can SAY it is there

That's what religion is about -- believing in something you can't prove. However, you can't disprove God, either, in the same way you can't prove emotions. For example, there's absolutely no way you could prove to me that you love someone, or that you like pizza, or that you hate cabbage....

 

[Sly]

Hmm... never thought of the emotions thing. I will use that the next time I get in a debate w/ sumone else...

 

[jackalopes]

Originally posted by SlyFie
Im atheist cus i just think that way. and i got science to back me up.

there is also a lot of scientific evidence to prove things in the bible too

 

[c9h13no3]

Slyfe
Im atheist cus i just think that way. and i got science to back me up.

How does science back you up? Have you disproven God's existance? Because that's certainly what atheists believe.

 

[CelestialBadger]

I'm hedging my bets on at least 3/4 of atheists sucking at science.

 

[Forged]

Originally posted by CelestialBadger
I'm hedging my bets on at least 3/4 of atheists sucking at science.

I am terrible in chemistry, and biology 1 was a joke and waist of time so I my good grades in that are irrelvant.

So I guess you win, though I don't see your point.

 

[cxoli]

Originally posted by Forged
I am terrible in chemistry, and biology 1 was a joke and waist of time so I my good grades in that are irrelvant.

So I guess you win, though I don't see your point.

I'm guessing he's saying that most athiests use science to back up their beliefs which insist that there is no God, yet most have a poor grasp on scientific concepts, as well as little knowledge of things proven by science or occurrences that can't necessarily be explained by science. Or something like that.

 

[Sly]

im talking evolution. and science doesnt prove the bible, does it? things might change for me, but evolution is a theory i think is correct, so i stand by it.

 

[cxoli]

I believe in evolution, and I'm Christian. Science proves that Jesus was a real person, just not that He was the Messiah. Things do change, and the Bible is not to be taken entirely literally. People who do so are fundamentalists, the kind of people who think the world is only a couple thousand years old. As for me, I put my faith not only in God but in science. However, the two can work together. Just because I believe in evolution doesn't mean i don't believe in the Bible's story of creation. Do I believe the world was created in seven days (or six, depending on how you look at it)? Yes. Do I think they were "human" days? No. And were the first people God created exactly like humans are today? I doubt it. It all depends on how you look at it, I guess.

 

[CelestialBadger]

It's possible to believe in God without believing in creationism at all anyway.

It doesn't matter though. Bhudda found enlightenment by sitting under a tree. Mine's come from an online forum...? You won't change anyone's fundamental beliefs. Why bother trying?

 

[jackalopes]

Originally posted by cxoli
I believe in evolution, and I'm Christian. Science proves that Jesus was a real person, just not that He was the Messiah. Things do change, and the Bible is not to be taken entirely literally. People who do so are fundamentalists, the kind of people who think the world is only a couple thousand years old. As for me, I put my faith not only in God but in science. However, the two can work together. Just because I believe in evolution doesn't mean i don't believe in the Bible's story of creation. Do I believe the world was created in seven days (or six, depending on how you look at it)? Yes. Do I think they were "human" days? No. And were the first people God created exactly like humans are today? I doubt it. It all depends on how you look at it, I guess.

yeah I was thinking about that too the other day, if god created humans different then they canged, thats a good point

 

[BigShot]

i think its ok to put your beliefs on the table to be used as knowledge right?

well let me put what i think in here

Some interesting facts
-archeologists found a frozen mamoth that didnt die of freezing in a place that it should have...it had water in its lungs which point to drownding
-large planks of wood found frozen on a peak of the mountain range that noah supposedly had landed on
-geologists say that the flood theory is false because water never could have covered everest...wait a ticker, dont geologists say that the earth is always moving and that back in flood days, the mountain was far diffrent than today? hmmm....

Ill attempt to prove the existance of a God by proving that without him the world should seem absolutly perfect....yet its not...

To prove the existance of God is to prove the existance of Satan/Lucifer/whatever you call the greatest evil in the world. Life is like a scale, there is good and there evil, but isnt it strange that evil is found in humans but not animals?Jesus came as a human, and he was a perfect and righteous person. Where the supposed anti-christ is evil and a trickster. Jesus was the ultimatly good human, AntiChrist is the ultimatly evil human. So Good has an equal bad counterpart. This Good and Evil relationship is found in many things. for example, money. Money is used by good citizens as a way to pay for things and these people arnt taking advantage of it like counterfieit money makers. another example of good and evil is democracy. In one way, its good, in another its bad(look at hitler and mousilini, technically they had democracys, except they beat everyone into voting for them. remember stalin's famous line, it doesnt matter who votes, it matters who counts them.)

So all in all, if there is no God, there is no good nor evil in the world of humans. Animals this doesnt apply because animals dont have something that humans do. that something is a SOUL.


well thats what i have to add, i hope you all actually read it and think about it as possible instead of being lame and shooting down the first thing that comes out.

 

[Forged]

I really didn't see the relevance in any of the things that you posted, as you said the world has always been moving which would explain the odd thing. And the earth perfect thing??

o yeah and

So all in all, if there is no God, there is no good nor evil in the world of humans. Animals this doesnt apply because animals dont have something that humans do. that something is a SOUL

I don't believe in souls and if I did I don't see why animals couldn't have them...

 

[CelestialBadger]

BigShot, nothing that you said proved the existance of God at all. Can't we all just agree that there's no proof for either cause and move on?

 

[Arkillo]

"There is no such thing as a god. If such a creature existed,
belief would be rendered unnecessary, and the entire system
of organized religion would collapse."