New rig

[AxL]

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THIS IS THE SETUP I ORDERED!​

Alright ordered my rig last night. Should be here anytime from the end of the week to early next week. Here are the final specs:

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  Case:
• ASPIRE (Turbo Case)X-Superalien Blue ~$141
  
  Mobo:
• MSI "K8N Neo Platinum" ~$126
  
  CPU:
• AMD Athlon 64 3200+ ~$218
  
  RAM:
• Corsair XMS Extreme Memory PC3200 1 GB (512x2) ~$231
  
  Video:
• ATI Radeon 9800 PRO ~$0*
  
  HDD:
• Seagate 200GB ~$118 (with rebates)
  
  CDRW/DVD:
• Lite-On 52X32X52X16 Combo Drive OEM ~$44
  
  Sound:
• Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy LS
  
  Floppy:
• SONY Beige 1.44MB ~$11
  
  OS:
• Microsoft Windows XP Professional OEM ~$141
  
  Speakers:
• Logitech Z-640's ~$0*
  
  Mouse:
• Logitech Blue "MX 510" ~$48
  
  Keyboard:
• Logitech Elite ~$0*
  
  Monitor:
• ViewSonic VP201B ~$869**

*- I already own that part. Thus it doesn't cost any more. I only provided a link to newegg for you to know what it is.

**- This monitor cost me an arm and a leg and I hope to god it was worth the money (all reviews I have read gave very positive impressions).
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THIS IS THE SETUP I WAS GOING TO GET PREVIOUSLY!​

I am building a new rig. I think I have everything. Any comments or suggestions before I place my order?

Case: ASPIRE (Turbo Case)X-Superalien Blue ~$141

CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ ~$218

Mobo: MSI "K8N Neo Platinum" ~$126

RAM: Corsair XMS Extreme Memory (512MBx2) DDR PC-3200 ~ $231

Video card: ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128 MB (already own it)

Sound card: Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy LS ~$53

Floppy: SONY Beige 1.44MB 3.5Inch ~$10.99

HDD: Seagate Barracuda - Hard Drive - 200GB ~$104 (with rebates)

CD-RW/DVD: Lite-On White 52X32X52X16 Combo Drive ~$44

OS: Microsoft XP Pro OEM ~$141

Total: $965

Edit: Fixed some things

 

[Forged]

Sugestions, if you are getting an asus mobo getting asus componets will make it run beter, also don't buy your case from newegg, I will try and find the site I bought mine form.

 

[ShaftedTwice]

One question, are you planning on overclocking?

 

[COTA-GoD]

OUCH! that is alot for that case, ive seen alot nicer cases for alot less! ill see what i can do.


::EDIT::

This case is allright, good for 32 bux =p
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=11-145-047&DEPA=1

Nice, simple, big window, 55$
http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage...06-08.jpg/11-124-106-04.jpg/11-124-106-05.jpg

Only thing i dont like about this one is the placement of the fan, 91$
http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?style=album

Now, if you want to spend that kind of cash, go with this one, 141$
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=11-144-004&DEPA=1

This one is more of a show case 156$
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=11-144-004&DEPA=1

 

[ShaftedTwice]

Eh.. those dont have the best airflow, ya know. I would go with this if i was you:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=864720&Sku=MTX-PUR-600

You can get that in blue for $70 if u signed up for their email.
It is by far the best or one of the best cases i have ever seen, even for that beautiful price. And believe it or not, a good power supply makes a HUGE difference, and this is by far one of the best ive seen.

So sign up for their email and get that one off of them.. (If i sent u the link, it wouldnt work)

 

[Korittke]

get a soundblaster audigy 2 zs tbh. great stuff

 

[aphextwin]

thats a good setup axl however not sure why u need the winxp..... cant u get it from a frend or some1 that has winxp on cd?

 

[icastbigspells]

Originally posted by newbie4lyfe
thats a good setup axl however not sure why u need the winxp..... cant u get it from a frend or some1 that has winxp on cd?

yes or go to www.oem.com

 

[Iliaran]

nice setup so far, but what sorta monitor you going to use ? (I know my Hercules radeon 9800 pro supports 2 monitors)...and what sorta speakers are you going to attach to your audigy card?

(and I have to agree with the others in this thread, don't bother buying windows xp...there are...other...ways you can go about getting it...but if you must...at least go look for a version thats already patched with service pack 2...they should be out in stores pretty soon)

...and you might want to consider a case with removeable trays (makes life much easier)

 

[ShaftedTwice]

Originally posted by ShaftedTwice
Eh.. those dont have the best airflow, ya know. I would go with this if i was you:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=864720&Sku=MTX-PUR-600

You can get that in blue for $70 if u signed up for their email.
It is by far the best or one of the best cases i have ever seen, even for that beautiful price. And believe it or not, a good power supply makes a HUGE difference, and this is by far one of the best ive seen.

So sign up for their email and get that one off of them.. (If i sent u the link, it wouldnt work)

Get that case above,

Your CPU looks fine by me

As for the mobo, looks good enough, depends if you are going to overclock.

RAM looks good

You can softmod that Radeon 9800Pro into a 9800XT without harming anything if it is a 360 core

It already has onboard audio, so you dont need a sound card.

Dont you already have a floppy drive you can use?

Hard Drive you can buy a 160GB for $50, sometimes Outpost.com has that deal.. But I think youll be fine with that HDD as well..

The CD-RW/DVD looks fine to me.

As for the OS, get Win XP OEM for $50 at Link Removed because AxL r wrong and doesnt wanna get banned juss in case, tee hee..

 

[AxL]

Originally posted by Forged
Sugestions, if you are getting an asus mobo getting asus componets will make it run beter

Actually switched to MSI. The nForce3 chipset is faster then the ASUS chipset.

also don't buy your case from newegg, I will try and find the site I bought mine form.

Please post the link. However I think I am getting the best deal with newegg, and plus their shipping kicks ass.

Originally posted by COTA-GoD
OUCH! that is alot for that case, ive seen alot nicer cases for alot less! ill see what i can do.

All of those are not in my taste. I was looking at the thermaltakes but I think they are to flashy. Plus they don't come with a good PSU (which the case I am getting does)

Originally posted by ShaftedTwice
Eh.. those dont have the best airflow, ya know.

Huh? It has quite a few fans and most of them are in good places. However some are set as intake where they should be outtake but that isn't to much of a problem for me to fix.

I would go with this if i was you:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=864720&Sku=MTX-PUR-600

You can get that in blue for $70 if u signed up for their email.
It is by far the best or one of the best cases i have ever seen, even for that beautiful price. And believe it or not, a good power supply makes a HUGE difference, and this is by far one of the best ive seen.

So sign up for their email and get that one off of them.. (If i sent u the link, it wouldnt work)

IMO that case is ugly as hell. I already looked at tigerdirect and I decided on the superalien because of many reasons.

Originally posted by newbie4lyfe
thats a good setup axl however not sure why u need the winxp..... cant u get it from a frend or some1 that has winxp on cd?

If you are suggesting I pirate XP you have another thing coming.

Originally posted by Iliaran
nice setup so far, but what sorta monitor you going to use ? (I know my Hercules radeon 9800 pro supports 2 monitors).

That is currently in debate. I am looking at a few and hopefully will have a choice by tonight.

..and what sorta speakers are you going to attach to your audigy card?

I have Logitech Z640's. They are 5.1 speakers.

...and you might want to consider a case with removeable trays (makes life much easier)

The super alien does infact have a removable tray.

Originally posted by ShaftedTwice
As for the OS, get Win XP OEM for $50 at [link removed because AxL win's!]

I hope you realize that software is pirated.

 

[ShaftedTwice]

Huh? It has quite a few fans and most of them are in good places. However some are set as intake where they should be outtake but that isn't to much of a problem for me to fix.

haha, just where the fans are not everything to do with it.

IMO that case is ugly as hell. I already looked at tigerdirect and I decided on the superalien because of many reasons.

Well, if you want to waste your money, be my guest, but that case has 2x better airflow than any of the above cases, or around that, the PSU is better than any PSU youll get under $80, btw.

I hope you realize that software is pirated.

Prove it. Just cuz it has OEM on it does not mean it is pirated.

 

[AxL]

Originally posted by ShaftedTwice
haha, just where the fans are not everything to do with it.

Fans have a lot to do with it. Good placement of the fans means better cooling.

Well, if you want to waste your money, be my guest, but that case has 2x better airflow than any of the above cases, or around that, the PSU is better than any PSU youll get under $80, btw.

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Still think it is a bad case?

Prove it. Just cuz it has OEM on it does not mean it is pirated.

For the sake of keeping this thread ontopic I will finish this over AIM with you.

 

[jd-inflames]

OEM isn't pirated. It just means that it doesn't come with support of a box.

It's easier to explain when talking about hardware. When you buy a processor OEM, that means that you are buying JUST the processor...it will come on a little pink piece of styrofoam(goddamned SP), and a little plastic case. When the retail comes with a box, and a stock HSF.

With software, when you buy the OEM, you are just getting a copy of the software without a CD-Key most of the time. This is for those people who have a legit copy but their disc is busted. That's what OEM is for. It's a copy of the CD in just a normal CD case without any kind of box or serial key. They also normally don't garauntee that the software will work either OEM is the stuff where the original box was damaged when it comes to software, or a small accessory was damaged in hardware...like the DVI to VGA converter on video cards. Something small like that.

 

[AxL]

Originally posted by jd-inflames
OEM isn't pirated. It just means that it doesn't come with support of a box.

It's easier to explain when talking about hardware. When you buy a processor OEM, that means that you are buying JUST the processor...it will come on a little pink piece of styrofoam(goddamned SP), and a little plastic case. When the retail comes with a box, and a stock HSF.

With software, when you buy the OEM, you are just getting a copy of the software without a CD-Key most of the time. This is for those people who have a legit copy but their disc is busted. That's what OEM is for. It's a copy of the CD in just a normal CD case without any kind of box or serial key. They also normally don't garauntee that the software will work either OEM is the stuff where the original box was damaged when it comes to software, or a small accessory was damaged in hardware...like the DVI to VGA converter on video cards. Something small like that.

We know (or at least I do) know what OEM hardware is. I have boughten OEM hard ware because it is legit and cheaper. However OEM is a totally different story. I will let my source explain. I would appreciate any further commentary on the issue be done with me via PM or AIM.

http://www.crime-research.org/news/04.06.2004/321/

 

[jd-inflames]

I don't feel like PMing this to everyone interested in the subject, so I will let it stay right here.

bfshaftedtwice: it might turn into illegal stuff over the forums
JDInFlames: well, there is nothing legal about oem software
bfshaftedtwice: us 3 will be in big trouble by corty
JDInFlames: unless people make it illegal
bfshaftedtwice: yeah

I already knew that people sold OEM software illegaly, but that isn't enough to take away from ALL credibility of OEM discussion. There are still completely LEGITIMATE companies that sell OEM software, such as tigerdirect, newegg, and Microsoft themselves. The site you put up pretty much validated what I told ShaftedTwice. It is only illegal if either the distributer gives a pirated copy, or a burnt copy, or if the user buys even a legit copy and uses a non-legit activation/registration method.

I would say for the forums sake, this kind of thing is borderline. I'm not discussing any warez sites or posting any keys to work for your new OEM software. So there is no harm in talking about the people who still sell it legally.

 

[ShaftedTwice]

Originally posted by AxL
Fans have a lot to do with it. Good placement of the fans means better cooling.

Yes, it is a big part of it, a very big part of it, but the way the case itself is set up is also a part of it. It can determine where to put a blowhole on top, on the side, etc.

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Still think it is a bad case?

No, I think it is a very good case, very good. The one i am talking about is just as good though. Yours maybe have a few inches on it, but the airflow is just the same.

For the sake of keeping this thread ontopic I will finish this over AIM with you.

Alrighty then.


Ill edit this post with a little bit longer speech, i just wanted to let this out first.

I would say for the forums sake, this kind of thing is borderline. I'm not discussing any warez sites or posting any keys to work for your new OEM software. So there is no harm in talking about the people who still sell it legally.

Same here.

 

[AxL]

Originally posted by jd-inflames
I don't feel like PMing this to everyone interested in the subject, so I will let it stay right here.

bfshaftedtwice: it might turn into illegal stuff over the forums
JDInFlames: well, there is nothing legal about oem software
bfshaftedtwice: us 3 will be in big trouble by corty
JDInFlames: unless people make it illegal
bfshaftedtwice: yeah

I already knew that people sold OEM software illegaly, but that isn't enough to take away from ALL credibility of OEM discussion. There are still completely LEGITIMATE companies that sell OEM software, such as tigerdirect, newegg, and Microsoft themselves. The site you put up pretty much validated what I told ShaftedTwice. It is only illegal if either the distributer gives a pirated copy, or a burnt copy, or if the user buys even a legit copy and uses a non-legit activation/registration method.

I would say for the forums sake, this kind of thing is borderline. I'm not discussing any warez sites or posting any keys to work for your new OEM software. So there is no harm in talking about the people who still sell it legally.

What are you talking about? He gave a link to a OEM site that isn't legit. However if he wanted to to talk about OEM software without giving out a link that would be fine. It is like a warez discussion rule; You can discuss it but you can't give it.

Btw would a mod please split these posts? I don't want them derailing my topic.

 

[jd-inflames]

Where does this software come from ?
The software is shipped from Eastern Europe.

The site Shafted posted however...doesn't seem too legit to me...

 

[ShaftedTwice]

Originally posted by AxL
What are you talking about? He gave a link to a OEM site that isn't legit. However if he wanted to to talk about OEM software without giving out a link that would be fine. It is like a warez discussion rule; You can discuss it but you can't give it.

Btw would a mod please split these posts? I don't want them derailing my topic.

And this post as well.

Who said my link was not legit? Who says that its illegal?


JD, i know it can be suspicious, but arent they all? It doesnt automatically mean that it is not legit.