Main RPG characters are all the same...

[Arkillo]

yes it did, but xenogears was and is the best rpg out there...they should have used a similar gameplay style as xenogears, the combo system, ether system ,etc...but then again the ether system comes from the zohar, is that in xenosaga? i never got that far in that game...

I got about 7 hours into the game before I quit. It sucked wayyyy to bad for me.

 

[Sogeking]

have you tried xenogears? its so great

 

[Shadow1psc2k]

You must not have played very many RPGs, cause that's pretty much just a square trademark w/ the whiny characters that are outclassed by someone later...

 

[Arkillo]

You must not have played very many RPGs, cause that's pretty much just a square trademark w/ the whiny characters that are outclassed by someone later...

I've prolly played a lot more RPG's than you...just try me

(I was just using Square ones, because those are generally the ones everyone knows best)

 

[Kuzmich]

Note; I'm only using FFX, FFVII, FFVIII, SO2 and SO3 for clarity purposes. I could go into games like LoD (not D2) or Tales of Symphonia, Fire emblem, Legend Of Legia...But yeah, I'll spare you

They're all young kids. Hardly ever older than the age of 20. They always (ok, so theres a few cases where they dont) use swords. They always get bitched around by one of the first characters you meet in the game (Auron/Wakka/Barret/Quistis/Cliff to name a few (From FFX, FFVII, FFVIII and SO3). Theres always someone thats more of a badass than them (Auron/Khimari from FFX, Vincent/Barret/Red XIII/Cid from FFVII, Zell/Seifer from FFVIII, Dias from SO2, Abel from SO3) They whine, alot. And it always seems like they have something wrong with them, or they did something bad or they traveled through time..

Why the hell is it always like this? Is it too much to ask for some badass main character? Someone that uses a different weapon, other than a sword, thats somewhere around 35, who doesn't take shit from anyone...Why can't there be a game where the main character smacks around one of the other characters in the game like they always seem to get smacked around...

Ugh, Sorry. It's just been bugging me for a while, and having another game where some lameass whiny punk with a sword doesn't make it any better.

[/rant] :wasted

[glow=red]There is a game like that. Its called Gothika, Gothika 2. Its an RPG, you play a middle aged criminal type of guy who can do almost anything he wants. Its really cool, its Russian, but i think they are selling it in US. The plot is basically that, in some kingdom(don't remember) few powerful mages made a special sphere and they put all the criminals in there so they would mine and stuff, sphere was made so someone could come in but can't come out of it, if the mages don't want them to come out. But then something went wrong and mages lsot control of coming in/out features of the sphere. Then criminals revolted, killed all the guards who couldn't run outside the sphere, and so it went that people inside the sphere formed their own gangs and didn't rely on the outside world for anything. But people still could get into the sphere. You are a criminal, and you are thrown into the shpere, you can join different gangs and stuff, you can be a different class, its a 3rd person view kind of thing, then you can eventually become a leader of your gang, or you can just spit on everything and go on mugging and killing people, although there are guards and stuff. It is a cool game, there is a 1000 and 1 ways of completing it. You should try it, i am pretty sure that it is sold in US.

I just checked and saw that second part is out.Buy it. Here is ebay link
http://search.ebay.com/PC-game-Goth...ectZ1QQfromZR8QQsatitleZPCQ20gameQ2CQ20Gothic

good thing you reminded me, now i am gonna buy it. Some badass Russian made gaming, but don't worry it been translated by Atari[/glow]

 

[Arkillo]

Yeah, I played Gothika for a little bit, didn't like it too much, but that was also during my computer game crack years...I'll have to pick it up net time I go and rent some games.

 

[Kuzmich]

[glow=red]I liked Gothic, its like one of the first Russian made games worth my while. Right now i am not much in RPGs, i switched to RTS and stuff, or tactical games, Jugged Alliance, WC3 stuff like that.[/glow]

 

[drax]

Yea, the "main character with big sword" games are getting kind of old. Meh.

 

[Arkillo]

Not only that, but the games are getting a lot shorter and shorter now. FFX2 was something like 30 hours. SO3 isnt anything more than 35-40, something like 12 if you skip all the cutscenes...Wheres the longass 80+ hour games like FFVII and SO2? Wheres the riviting storyline?

Maybe I'm just getting older and I'm getting bored of the same typa story?

 

[Cobalt Wolf]

Hey thanks a lot Darkmatter.

Akule... :-/ Can't think of what I want to say to you.
You worry me though.​

 

[Darkmatter]

Hey thanks a lot Darkmatter.

Akule... :-/ Can't think of what I want to say to you.
You worry me though.​

My pleasure. No worries about Akule, he just likes to be an ass sometimes.

 

[Renzokuken]

They're all young kids. Hardly ever older than the age of 20.

In RPGs, the main character generally goes throught the process of an inner journey and changes somewhat. And at the age of 20 or below, we are still finding out who we are and stuff like that. So the age that you see now, is basically the optimum age for inner journeying.

Also, they are that age because the people who play those games, are the same age (Or near it) as the main character. The companies basically feel that they'll sell more and they can develop the character and utilise them to mirror or parallel certain situations that the gamer may or may not be feeling.

I mean, if Auron was the main character, i wouldn't be able to relate to him because he is way older. I wouldn't be able to connect. But with a young character like Tidus, i can. These all make for a good RPG, and unless the gamers average age increases, expect more young main characters.

I love RPGs and i've played quite alot. But only because i have played alot, do i realise that i might enjoy a new RPG that has a different mix of characters. But Square-Enix (And other software companies) are looking to grab the RPG-virgins and hook them into the RPG, which is most effectively done by using characters that parallel themselves (Ones of a young age).

They always (ok, so theres a few cases where they dont) use swords.

Guns are more common (Yuna in FFX-2 is a gunner) than swords. So using a less-common weapon appeals to todays society. But i'd sure like to see an axe-wielder somewhere...

They always get bitched around by one of the first characters you meet in the game

Squall wasn't in FFVIII. He just got his ass kicked in training by Seifer and Quistis didn't bitch at him.

(Auron/Wakka/Barret/Quistis/Cliff to name a few (From FFX, FFVII, FFVIII and SO3). Theres always someone thats more of a badass than them (Auron/Khimari from FFX, Vincent/Barret/Red XIII/Cid from FFVII, Zell/Seifer from FFVIII, Dias from SO2, Abel from SO3) They whine, alot. And it always seems like they have something wrong with them, or they did something bad or they traveled through time..

Well we can't have a bunch of wusses now can we?

And for the record, Auron NEVER bitched and Kimahri hardly talked (Both from FFX).

 

[Ntrik_]

Squall was in FFVIII =/


Riku uses sort of small sword, Pain uses sword as well

btw who cares if they're all same?

 

[Arkillo]

Squall wasn't in FFVIII. He just got his ass kicked in training by Seifer and Quistis didn't bitch at him.

I didn't say bitched at, I said bitched around. He was always following Quistis' orders and such

And for the record, Auron NEVER bitched and Kimahri hardly talked (Both from FFX).

Again, it was Bitched Around, not Bitched at. And I was talking about how Auron and Kimahri were the badass's of FFX (to an extent)

 

[ChrisH36]

Riku uses sort of small sword, Pain uses sword as well

btw who cares if they're all same?

Thief weapons are the same, Warrior Swords are different colors

Riku = Rainbowish color Pain = Silver like

Auron NEVER bitched

He was the loner of the squad, how could he bitch

 

[shutupandgoaway]

I agree. That's why I play more open-ended stuff- like NWN, Baldur's Gate- Biowares games. They kick ass.

 

[ChrisH36]

Another common thing in RPGs is EVERYONE WANTS YOU TO SOLVE THIER PROBLEMS. Like getting alcohol from a dragon or save Timmy from a group of Gnolls . Can't the NPCs solve thier own problems?

 

[Master.America]

Part of playing the role of "the hero" in a game requires that you perform pointless deeds for random people.

 

[Sogeking]

thats what makes your chracter a hero...he does thing for little to nothing, now if you were a bad guy....

 

[Cobalt Wolf]

How often do they make games where you are the bad guy?
Not often enough in my opinion.

If they have a problem with a bad guy being the main character because they think
it will influence children into doing wrong then they need to think about about all the
games they already have out where you are killing people with guns and stuff.​