Help with fallen Paladin Build

[Pale_Horse]

For those that don't know what one is. It is a paladin with no active auras. It might be known as other names, but in either case I am making a build due to bordom.

So far the build looks like this:

Vengence - 20
Holy Shield - 20
Defience - 20
Salvation - 20
resist fire - 7
resist lightning - 7
resist cold - 7
+ preregs brings me to 107 in skills allocation.

I am relying on lots of elemental damage and high defence rating. I know I will have to block alot. But my problem is the gear. I have decided on using so far, unless anyone has better ideas:

BotD Zerker
Draculs Grip
Sandstorm Treks
Ears, or t-gods
Highlords, or metalgrid, with 2x bul rings, or should i go with angelic set combo
(uped) Shaftstop and gaze (both with um) for DR and elemental resist, or gardian and shako (both uped and um)
2x SS (um)

Tons of elemental charms and a few skill charms as well.

Any thoughts on better items or even a better skill list. Thanks in advance. Also since I'm auraless should I contribute some stats to strength to increase damage or no.

 

[simpleforce]

i suggest u put enough pionts into conviction as needed and not in defiance. also better to split the 20 points in salvation into 7 in each of the resist.

BotD Zerker-good
Draculs Grip-good
Sandstorm Treks-gore riders would be better if u duel
Ears, or t-gods -dungos would be better, tgods in stash
Highlords, or metalgrid, with 2x bul rings, or should i go with angelic set combo-angelic combo won't help as much b/c no fanat, but it still would help enough
(uped) Shaftstop and gaze (both with um) for DR and elemental resist, or gardian and shako (both uped and um), - Get CoA, shako/gaze is also good. -get levi or stone or coh, guardian in stash
2x SS (um) - 2x? for what lol, if u want def and ur using conviction instead of defiance, use a exile

hope that helps,
ps, kao will be owned, i will take a screen

 

[DDRaddict]

i suggest u put enough pionts into conviction as needed and not in defiance.

what is the point of conviction if he's not going to use an active aura. defiance on the other hand is synergy for holy shield.

 

[simpleforce]

if he's gonna do elemental he must do conviction... and if he does defiance there is an active aura...

 

[DDRaddict]

if he's gonna do elemental he must do conviction... and if he does defiance there is an active aura...

the point is that he wants to do it WITHOUT an active aura. so he doesn't need conviction. he could use facets if he wanted to lower the resistance.

and as i stated eariler:

defiance on the other hand is synergy for holy shield.

so defiance would not be activated.

 

[Pale_Horse]

the point is that he wants to do it WITHOUT an active aura. so he doesn't need conviction. he could use facets if he wanted to lower the resistance.

and as i stated eariler:


so defiance would not be activated.

Thank you DDRaddict for actually reading my post here unlike someone else. To clarify for Simpleminded people. I AM USING NO AURAS AT ALL UNLESS ITS A SYNERGY! Why would I put more into the sepereate elemental resists if they are the synergy to vengence and salvation adds 2% all elemental damage rather then 7% of one type. Also the Defience IS a synergy for my holy shield adding defence to it. Once again thank you for your assistance DDRaddict.

One question for you do facets of different die stack? I have 2x Poison die facet and a cold die, one meteor facet (think thats a die as well)

I might take 5 points off of defience for zeal maybe.

The levi thing is good btw if I go the route of more strength, not completely sure of that yet though.

 

[DDRaddict]

it'll boost your vengence dmg for that area, as for the die part it should only affect one element (it's own element). and i would suggest the 5 points into zeal. it'll be great for crowd control.

 

[SteveDaGreat]

why the hell would you even invest any effort into making this build?!?
you do know you will be doing shit dammage and will not even compare to any other pali with auras.
but w/e.
since your pvm and obiously trying things on a new approach, might as well mix it up and put some into conversion...that would be cool if you had the right skill points on it. let your mind controlled peeps kill since you wont.
btw, your not gunna hit nething with that ebotd of yours either. your ar will be low even with angelic combo.
no active aura, BAH.
Best of luck to ya.
:grunt :grunt :grunt

 

[Ntrik_]

For those that don't know what one is. It is a paladin with no active auras. It might be known as other names, but in either case I am making a build due to bordom.

Don't even start there buddy.

 

[dP]

Dont make it. Pallies without auras stink like dog shit being eaten and pooed out by another dog, and smushed into a pizza with worms in it, then eaten again by a dog and pooed out again.

 

[SweatyOgre]

Why would you even think about making this build? It'd be like making a barb with no armor, pally with no shield, or necro without a wand. You're just putting yourself at a GIANT disadvantage for no reason.

What do you mean by

2x SS (um)

How will you wear 2 ss?

 

[Pale_Horse]

I figured this is one build I haven't done yet, and honestly I'm getting kinda bored with the game. So Why not, I'm sure I will die many times over, but what the hell. I know its pointless for the most part.

 

[Kao]

Hmm....so basically you're making an elemental pally. Let's see what comes to mind...

IF you're going Pure PvM, I suggest you use a Baranars Star (if you can hit the BP with a Shael, do that). It's got HUGE AR, which covers for the Angelic Setup, and quite a bit of elemental damage, which never hurts. I would advise getting a MAX of 50% DR, meaning verdungos + SS is 50% right there. You might opt for a CoH, seeing as how a CoH is godly for pretty much any character. For the Amulet...hmm...Highlords is nice, the +1/35 Lit Resist/IAS/Deadly Strike is very nice, but meh, not needed unless you need it to hit the HP. I'd use a Metalgrid if you have enough IAS. I'd use Gores for PK and Treks for PvM. Slap on a Cham/Whatever CoH, and use dual 5% Bul-kathos. I would get a Might Merc and slap on nat's gear, and you're set for most elements except poison.

 

[Pale_Horse]

Once again you are, awsome Kao! Completely forgot and overlooked BStar. Where were you when I was a bigger noob? Only thing is I'm going with no auras what so ever even on a merc so I will probably get a act 1 or act 3 merc with DR gear of course. I was thinking metalgrid too, for the def rating alone, its so sweet. Now if I can get another Bul- Kathos, and Verdungos, I should be ok.

Now another question for you, should I invest in five points into zeal or keep it in the defience holy shield synergy to max it out?

 

[Kao]

Well, considering you *should* have a crapload of AR from Bstar, I'd say 1 point, or however many you need to get to +5 with skills should work. Depends if you're going to be using Vengeance, though.

 

[simpleforce]

if u don't need ar u could always use famine

 

[DDRaddict]

if your ladder u could use seraph's hymn if u don't need the ias.


Seraph's Hymn
Amulet

Required Level: 65
+2 To All Skill Levels
+1-2 To Defensive Auras (Paladin Only) (varies)
+20-50% Damage To Demons (varies)
+150-250 To Attack Rating Against Demons (varies)
+20-50% Damage To Undead (varies)
+150-250 To Attack Rating Against Undead (varies)
+2 To Light Radius
(Ladder Only)
(Only Spawns In Patch 1.10 or later)

 

[SteveDaGreat]

well i thought you would of gave up this build already from some of the negative feed back and such you got from some of use (me included).
gj for being so damn persistant! lol.
would battle orders be considered an aura? I didn't see cta listed anywhere. would be very useful.
demon limb can be a good weapon to keep in stash as well since pretty much all the ar you're gunna get is gunna come from the bstar. so enchant yourself before going outside?...just a suggestion.
ok thats all i got for now hehe.

 

[Kao]

This is al dependant if he's going PvP or PvM people. And that amulet sucks for melee. It's only good for:

+2 To All Skill Levels

The other crap is well...crap.

 

[Pale_Horse]

Demonlimb already on that, guess I forgot to post it. As for the CtA I dont count that as an aura since its not a pallidin skill, but I am thickheaded and choose to have no added anything that remtely looks like one. LoL I'm so gonna die. I'm string him tonight cant wait to see how this goes, no too many of em out their ...... actually I dont think I have ever seen one. (I know "Thats because the suck".) But who cares its dirrerent from the norm.