this could provoke pages and pages of debate.In the wild its not called murder...its called surviving
ur saying everything is innocent until abused.
so killing someone to survive isnt murder until abused
but why would you need to kill someone to survive in the wild unless something else has been abused
and then what does that mean
does that mean threatening or physically overpowering and dominating was once innocent until abused
because how can you abuse something of such extremes and outcomes
if u kill to survive, its almost impossible to decipher when it became abused, if it ever has (killing of humans)