Originally posted by Dark Mage
I cant argue about that. Paladin usually isnt best to take as 1st or second but as damage he + MK is better. OK VBad, against UD we do (or I do) 2 things:
- Because UD may mass fiends or even greater mistake - necros, having AM as 1st I use blizzard I ignore any patch changes and use it like an ordinary AOE spell against fiends or necros- owned.
As units I get melee as best counter of fiends, quick tech to knights and they are owned.
-What you see in replays is that UD uses mass ghouls with DK as first hero, then quickly techs to Black citadel and having 2nd hero from Halls of dead, he strats making either aboms first or upgrades the destroyer for and starts massing destroyers. Any melee like footmen in the beginning are owned, specpially when they make frost nova+ impale. The same is with knights. Rifles as
ranged and as very ranged with long rifles are the best destroyer counter and ghoul if you guard them because they inflict high damage on ghouls.I emphasize on the AM as 1st in this situation. If you get MK as first you can own ghouls too because clap is the best to use and really AM with blizzard wont work here. But how do you get a good meat shield for tier 1 and 2 when you have Paladin with divine shield. The Paladin is a selfish hero. When he makes divine shield it is like 'im saved, may all other humans die'. And this is a mistake that many players do, They attack heroes who can be killed but once you have potion and heal your hero, and by the time they try to kill your hero, you kill almost all their units. While with invulerable hero this is ignored and again the victims so to say are units.
Also you make some sorceresses and priests especially for sorc brilliance is needed.
To be honnest I have no idea who is the idiot to mass fiends against humans when they have defend, Breakers that not only do normal attack they also take reduced from pierce and add in a little slow and they are done... and yes in the first situation am .. maybe is better but...
an increasing number of UD players get ghouls destroyers abom, statues + 3 heros (dk, lich, CL) against Humans.
Ghouls although with frenzy upgraded and statues to support them would rape the riffles. Ghouls die easy at aoe spells but since your am has WE and not blizzard he has nothing to fear.
i dunno where you got the selfish paladin story from. the DS is allowing him to survive and heal MK and other important units ..such as griphons or knights with great sucess..also he can safely activate a potion of clarity and regenerate his mana also...without the fear of beign negated.
and NO you dont need AM brilance ..
why? easy, I hope you arent stupid enough to activate inner fire and feed those destroyers with mana allowing them to own you high and low.
you only need AM to creep fast.. expanding fast (which you can do anyway if you have MK first)... and support your troops of casters.. BUT! as long as the only caster in your army is only the priest and his main role is ONLY healing... you dont need brilance. his natural mana regeneration will be enough.
As I said Theroy.. even though he lvls up his AM is usless. he is an INTELLIGENCE hero... he will never have enough HP to survive UD nuking....while paladin and MK do have enough strenght to do so.
