Glorified Gayness

[mesiahofpenguins]

Why is homosexuality so gloryfied I mean there is gay talk show hosts are gay, there is a gay and lesbian channel on my stailite now and they have that gay pride parade. I know now we have freedom to do what we want in this country and you can be gay if you want i but i don't wanna know if you are and there is no reason for gay marriage.

 

[RoaCh of DisCord]

The fact that you don't want to know...really doesn't matter..and shouldn't

Why does anything get attention? Why does anyone have pride? Why do Americans go around flaunting that they're American?

There really is no reason for it...other than that people are happy with who they are, and they want to show it. It's just another thing, people take pride in...and will express it through several different ways.

It's okay for you not to like it, but it's also okay for them to do so as they please. It doesn't harm you in anyway.

..and why exactly is there no reason for gay marriage? That's just an ignorant comment. Why is there a reason for anyone to get married?!? Once again, it's mainly about expression, and more importantly love. What gives you the right to disaprove of two loving people getting married? All it is, is a personal bind..that holds allot of meaning, and is an official commitement. It should be none of your business, or anyones elses.

 

[mega_monsta]

i like that... americans telling everyone there american. like this guy in a supermarket today with a tshirt that was just the american flag, whats the point ?and wats so supper about supermarkets anyway there just big shops....

oh yeah and gay people... they have gay pride march's ? why dont straight people have them ? because they dont feel the need to show off and show everyone there diffrent ?

 

[Lights]

Originally posted by mega_monsta
like this guy in a supermarket today with a tshirt that was just the american flag, whats the point ?

I have a couple shirts with American flags and other national symbols on them. I am American and I am proud of the fact. I have a right to display my affection for my country by wearing clothing that reflects it. I suppose homosexuals have that same right.

 

[mesiahofpenguins]

What I don't get is homosexuality is so gloryfied and considered ok when the government is constricting religon people aren't aloud to pray in school, shcools teach evolution not creationism, and they to the ten comandments out of the supreme court. see the government is saying it's good to be gay and religon is terrilble.

 

[mega_monsta]

oh well, i never said its wrong i just ment i woudlent do it, yeah gay people can express themselfs anyone can, just everyone making such a big fuss about it is what gets me. i'm proud to straight but i dont go making websites about it and going on tv shows saying how good it is to be gay...

 

[RoaCh of DisCord]

Originally posted by mega_monsta

oh yeah and gay people... they have gay pride march's ? why dont straight people have them ? because they dont feel the need to show off and show everyone there diffrent ?

Straights don't have them (that I know of), because they haven't been struggling for years to be accepted by society. They've always been accepted..because being straight is the "norm". In todays world, gays ARE indeed accepted allot more...but they still have a long way to go before being treated 100% equal. This stupid gay marriage issue, is a perfect example. There really is no reason to say they cannot be married. It's just a bunch of ignorant superiors and followers, trying to dis-allow something that they simply don't approve of, for ridiculous reasons.

i'm proud to straight but i dont go making websites about it and going on tv shows saying how good it is to be gay...

That's nice...what's your point? Just because you don't like it, or do it, they shouldn't be able to make websites, or anything else about it? That's just stupid.

What I don't get is homosexuality is so gloryfied and considered ok when the government is constricting religon people aren't aloud to pray in school, shcools teach evolution not creationism, and they to the ten comandments out of the supreme court. see the government is saying it's good to be gay and religon is terrilble.

Hmm it seems your pulling arguments out of your ass, that make no sense . It has nothing to do with being good or bad. Being gay is considered "ok" by law, and so is being religious.

Gay's have the right to be gay, and be proud about it...because it's them...and it's totally legal, and backed up by the constitution. It's fine to be gay, by law.

Yet the same goes for religious people...obviously. You have the right to be religious, and be proud of it. It's considered "ok" by law, and is also backed up by the constitution. What you cannot do, however, is literally force your religious views on others. You cannot force people to pray in school, and you cannot force them to understand and agree with your religious views against their own will.

You may be confused though. You CAN pray in school...but it cannot be a forced activitiy provided by the school. If you want to set up your own christian club and pray...it's perfectly okay. People can come in on their own...but it has to be by choice. If you want to pray on your own...that's also fine. You just can't have organized prayer in school...because not everyone has the same beliefs. It wouldn't be fair to make everyone pray to a god..even though they don't believe in one. There is also the seperation of church and state issue...but that's a whole other thread

It's the same for gays though. It's totally fine to be gay by law...but they cannot force you to be gay, or force you to take part in homosexual acts.

Both religion and being gay are "ok" by law...and accepted. Not one is considered good or terrible...

 

[mega_monsta]

Originally posted by RoaCh Of DisCord
That's nice...what's your point? Just because you don't like it, or do it, they shouldn't be able to make websites, or anything else about it? That's just stupid

that wasent my point, i was just stating that it happens that way around and not the other i dont care if they do or not i aint no racist or homophobe or anything like that

 

[Jason]

see the government is saying it's good to be gay and religon is terrilble.

Ya..that's exactly what they're saying. :rolleyes

 

[CelestialBadger]

What I don't get is homosexuality is so gloryfied and considered ok when the government is constricting religon people aren't aloud to pray in school, shcools teach evolution not creationism, and they to the ten comandments out of the supreme court. see the government is saying it's good to be gay and religon is terrilble.

I agree with you completely! And what has Bush done about it? Nothing! We must vote Jerry Falwell into the Whitehouse! I urge all Republicans to write in Falwell this November.

like that... americans telling everyone there american. like this guy in a supermarket today with a tshirt that was just the american flag, whats the point ?and wats so supper about supermarkets anyway there just big shops....

Heh, yeah. This lady came into my work the other day to buy some of those "Support our troops" car magnets. And get this: She said "It sure is expensive to be patriotic" That's the kind of patriotism I have a problem with. It's expensive to be patriotic? Yeah, whatever.

 

[DwarfSpirits]

Originally posted by RoaCh Of DisCord
You just can't have organized prayer in school...because not everyone has the same beliefs. It wouldn't be fair to make everyone pray to a god..even though they don't believe in one. T

If you mean school organized, no. If you mean club organized, yes.

I agree with everything you said Roach


try to leave huge gaps out of your quotes
~mac

 

[Tempest Storm]

What I don't get is homosexuality is so gloryfied and considered ok when the government is constricting religon people aren't aloud to pray in school, shcools teach evolution not creationism, and they to the ten comandments out of the supreme court. see the government is saying it's good to be gay and religon is terrilble.

Good God, where the **** do I start?

Ppl are allowed to pray in school. Kids are allowed to pray in school. So are the teachers. The only restriction is kids are not allowed to disrupt class with their prayer, and teachers are allowed to lead the kids into prayer.

And yes, they do teach Evolution...because it's fact. It's science. Schools are supposed to teach facts, reality, not religious ignorance and lies.

And actually, they didn't take the Ten Commandments out of the SP, they took them out of a courthouse in Alabama, which was the right thing to do. See, in America, we have this thing called the Constitution. And the Constitution states that the government is not supposed to promote or support any paticular religion, or deny ppl their right to worship the religion of their choice. So that's why they took it out.

And, I challenge you, I dare you to find me a statement by any Congressman, Senator, Governer or President that says that homosexuality is good, and that religion is bad.

 

[mesiahofpenguins]

First of all spike Evolution is not proven in any way shape or form it's totally a guess a theory. And i said it was in the supreme court i was wrong. I can see why they took them out not everyone should be forced to see the ten commandments so why should we be forced to see a gay pride parade. To me homosexuality is made up BS you aren't born with it you chose to do it to me it's just a mental illness that makes you think your something your not

 

[RoaCh of DisCord]

UGh..

Please...

People aren't born homosexual?

I hate when people make that comment, because it's so ****ing stupid.

You were born with heterosexual feelings, wern't you? You didn't at one point of your life, make the big choice to be either gay or straight? Did you just one day...say.. "Omg! Hmmm...should I be gay......or straight. I pick straight!1". I ****ing doubt it...because it doesn't work that way. You are just born to like the opposite sex. For gays...it's the other way around. Most gays, have feelings towards the same sex ever since they were children. It came natural for them, just as being a heterosexual came natural for you.

...and WTF @ your stupid quote. Since when are you forced to watch a gay parade? I've never seen one in my life.

 

[mesiahofpenguins]

what i'm saying is people aren't born gay because it is a totally made up feeling they even did a study that showed animals started becoming gay when they were placed in crouded hectic environments to me people aren't born gay because i serously think it is a mental illness

 

[RoaCh of DisCord]

It's a mental illness because you don't like it? K.

Also, answer my question.

You were born straight, weren't you?

Could you ever just choose to be gay, and enjoy it?

 

[mesiahofpenguins]

I don't see how anyone agrees with gayness it's against christian religons and it doesn't make any sense as a race we have to breed to survive and there is no way for gays to have babys so they are useless

 

[Tempest Storm]

First of all spike Evolution is not proven in any way shape or form it's totally a guess a theory. And i said it was in the supreme court i was wrong. I can see why they took them out not everyone should be forced to see the ten commandments so why should we be forced to see a gay pride parade. To me homosexuality is made up BS you aren't born with it you chose to do it to me it's just a mental illness that makes you think your something your not

Micro-evolution is proven fact, we've seen it with our own eyes. And the amount of scientific evidence for Evolution as a whole is great. The possibility that the entire theorum of Evolution being debunked is non-existant.

Creationism, on the other hand, has been debunked for some time now.

And tell me, who exactly is it that's putting a gun to your head and forcing you to go to a gay pride parade?

And homosexuality is not a mental illness. At least not according to every credible mental health organization on Earth. And their opinions on the subject are infinitely more valuable than yours.

 

[Jason]

I like how he avoids Roach's questions.

 

[CelestialBadger]

Originally posted by mesiahofpenguins
I don't see how anyone agrees with gayness it's against christian religons

It's because......

...not everyone is Christian!