Does God "hate fags"?

[killer900]

Originally posted by mesiahofpenguins
God doesn't send them to hell they choose to go there

If christian hell exists, why would anyone want to go there??

 

[amrtin77]

ive talked to some christian freinds about this recently. what i got was


"hell is an eternity away from god, and that is suffering. being without god is to be unhappy, and the only true happiness can come from a good relationship with god"


i dont know how that explains the whole lake of fire thing... but im cool with an eternity without a god i dont care about. i can be happy without having a relationship wit someone in my head.... but i dont know if i can be happy without my family and everyone i really care about. most of them believe in god, and an eternity without them would suck ass.



but i think when i die i'll go back to the way i was before i was born. non existant. no memories. no thought. not there. and if im not there, i wont care anyway! so its all good times, ill just have fun on earth while i can coz soon enough i wont exist

 

[killer900]

I beleive I'm going to be reincarnated, even if that sounds stupid to all of my family. Even if hell exists, and if it is only a place without god, I'm okay. Without my family, I would enjoy that very much! (all my family does is fight.)

 

[Orcryst]

Dude, how do we even know that our creator is a male?

 

[DwarfSpirits]

how do you know that our creator is anything?

im not 100% sure, but, during the time, you had to have a he or a she. so, the bible had a he as God. Thats what im thinking. When God says he made man in his own image, i think he meant something that had free will. God made us in his own image...but what image was that? im thinking choice. God chose david in his time. Abraham in his. Moses in his. Im sure there were others of faith close to theirs, but God chose them.

Well anyways, back to the topic of the thread

I believe i read this somewhere in a book. God does not hate homosexuals because he loves all living things. Yet, he hates satanism, murder, robbery, etc. but not the robbers, murderes, or satanists themselves. Paul was known throughout israel for distasteful deeds. Yet, God still loved him and he eventually turned from his evil ways. Homosexuality is what God hates.

Bam do you agree with me at all?

 

[mesiahofpenguins]

yea

 

[bamthedoc]

XD You don't know me too well It's BAM or bam. The reason being that BAM are my initials. In anycase...yeah, he has a point and one that I've made several times. GOD hates the sin but loves the sinner. There is one major differance in those two words, and one must think about that first.

However! I must point out that this is the god of the Christians and the Jews -- though the Torah has some distictions that some could take as "dislike" or "hate" with wording. The Islamic god, if I recall correctly, doesn't even acknowledge you, hence "love", unless you are Islmamic, yourself.

However, that is getting off the topic a bit, wouldn't you say?

Here are the key points we have learned, assuming Christian's GOD:

-hate the sin
-love the sinner

 

[CelestialBadger]

I shall worship Rick Santorum from now on. He doesn't mind gays either, as long as they're not loving each other. God should run for US Senate.

 

[mega_monsta]

if they where all to die then there would be no fags to hate? but thats just stupid because he doesent exist does he, like santa, plus if he does or did exist why do we call him a man or woman ? and who created him or her

 

[venom1221]

God doesnt hate gay people. He condemns their acts. He destroyed Sodom(city of homosexuals) because they wanted to rape travelers who were staying at a home.

 

[CelestialBadger]

I'm sure we can all agree that rape is wrong yes. How many innocent people did God kill with that one though?

 

[DwarfSpirits]

none? because god gathered all the righteous people of the city and told them to flee the city because he would destroy it

 

[mesiahofpenguins]

Badger I have one question for you if you don't belive in god why do you hate him?

 

[CelestialBadger]

When did I say that I don't believe in God or that I hate him?

 

[Tempest Storm]

No person is born gay they just choose to be

There is no scientific proof to substanciate that claim. Not only that, but it's illogical. Why the hell would someone choose to be gay in this day and age? Granted, being gay these days is much less stigmatized than it has been for most of history, but still, it's like choosing to be black in the 18th century. Who the hell would choose to be something that ppl hate, that is attacked and discriminated against.

Im saying if they truely believed in god then they wouldnt try to be gay... But most gays are all feminen (howeever you spell it) either cause of there hormones but you can get that fixed or because nobody likes them so they try other things and go for the same sex... So they can choose sically.you dont pop out of the momma and say hey im gonna be gay and if your attracted to the same sex so what doesnt mean you gotta stick your willie in em..

Most gays are normal ppl, actually. Chances are, if you met a gay guy, the only thing that'ld give him away is his good taste in clothes.

God doesn't hate homosexuals he loves everyone he just doesn't like the idea of homosexuality it's simple if your gay gods not going to hate you your just not going to heaven

If sending someone to eternal hell and torment and torture is not an act of pure hatred and contempt, I don't know what is.

God doesn't send them to hell they choose to go there

That's such an ignorant and stupid statement, I don't even know how to attack it.

 

[mesiahofpenguins]

Spike I don't even know where to start first of all gays aren't hated that much because it is so glorified and i am sorry for saying i hate gays i don't have them hate is a very strong word i just strongly disagree with there life choice. second satan is the one who tortures people in hell not god. and i say they choose to go there because they had the coice to belive in god and not be gay but they didn't make that choice

 

[Tempest Storm]

Originally posted by mesiahofpenguins
Spike I don't even know where to start first of all gays aren't hated that much because it is so glorified and i am sorry for saying i hate gays i don't have them hate is a very strong word i just strongly disagree with there life choice. second satan is the one who tortures people in hell not god. and i say they choose to go there because they had the coice to belive in god and not be gay but they didn't make that choice

Though homosexuality is glorified in certain aspects, like that show, "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy", gays are still hatred and discriminated against.

Gays can not marry in most states. Gays can not adopt in most states. Gays are denied the 1400 rights and priviledges that comes with civil unions/marriages in most states.

It's not a life choice, anymore than being straight is a life choice. I'm bisexual. I never chose to be bi. It's just something that happened.

You'ld think that a God that supposedly spoke the entire universe into existence would be able to destroy Satan, destroy Hell, and redeem everyone and get rid of sin and homosexuality pretty easily.

God allows ppl to be tortured, even though He does have the power to end it.

 

[mesiahofpenguins]

Originally posted by Spike~
Though homosexuality is glorified in certain aspects, like that show, "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy", gays are still hatred and discriminated against.

Gays can not marry in most states. Gays can not adopt in most states. Gays are denied the 1400 rights and priviledges that comes with civil unions/marriages in most states.

It's not a life choice, anymore than being straight is a life choice. I'm bisexual. I never chose to be bi. It's just something that happened.

You'ld think that a God that supposedly spoke the entire universe into existence would be able to destroy Satan, destroy Hell, and redeem everyone and get rid of sin and homosexuality pretty easily.

God allows ppl to be tortured, even though He does have the power to end it.

as to your first statement christians are dicriminated against to as to your second statement marriage was created for religon for straight people so gay people shouldn't be able to get married and as for the last statment why should god let people into heaven if they don't belive in him

 

[RoaCh of DisCord]

You're impossible...

Are you excusing your own discrimination, because you're discrimated against? Wow.

...and the christian religion doesn't own the definition of marriage. If so, buddhists, pagans, wiccans, catholics...wouldn't be able to marry.

The main problem is, people are obsessed with tradition, and ignorant to change.

 

[Tempest Storm]

Allright, I'll bite. Where exactly are Christians discriminated against on a widespread level?

I'll grant you that typical marriage was created by religions. But, this is important, the government provides 1,400 rights and priviledges to marriage couples. When the government got involved, marriage stopped being a religious thing. It became a government thing. And the government, as commanded by the Constitution, is not allowed to discriminate against it's citizens.

Because God hasn't provided any real evidence that He even exists? And Jehovah, the Christian God, hasn't given us any reason to believe in Him over any one of the multitude of other Gods out there.