Complaint: Clan Opz(U)

MacMan

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it's just better than b4 :)
i haven't worked on the end half of it, but i did add some cool stuff
 

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Ok here is my ranking of the map:

(A) Terrain: 17/20
Nice, you could have used more square terrain to make it look cleaner, and add a few more tree doodads and things around the middle. I didn't have much time to look at this, since i lost rather quickly.

(B) Triggers: 26/30
I must say, the triggers that were running in-game were flawless, except at one point, some of "beige"'s cannons stopped cloaking themselves and remained visable to me even when i was supposed to not see them.

(C) Gameplay: 34/40
Overall, it was fun, but i would like to say, you should first off, raise zeratuls hp, lower cannon dmg, and limit the number of buildings (cannons and bunekrs mostly) that a player can own at any given time. My oppoennt also built in my base, and took me over quite quickly.

(D) Overall Impression: 8/10
Overall it was good, still needs some bug fixing, but i would definetely play it again a few times with my friends when your final version comes out.

(E) Bugs: 0/0 (i sometimes give extra points if it's flawless)
The map was not flawless, and needs some reviewing, especially prices of things, and the speed at which certain buildings build. Also, make it so, later in teh game, zerglings become hero lings, so that people continue using them.

Overall Score: (total) 85/100
Nicely done, most people don't get higher tahn a 70 :)
 

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Umm big bug, whlie i was testingw tih twisted, it suddenly made me win (i was p1) he was (p4 i think, beige color) try fixing this.
 

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ok tass ty for ur imput
the only way he coould have lost was if he controlled no dt. Did he accidentally kill his own dt?
i sent ur map twisted
 

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I thought the map was nice, but boring as hell.
 

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Ok i went back and checked some stuff in the replay, i guess he did attack his own dt by some mistake. A few things i wanted to mention:

1. Give it some new names!!! Why use the name "pylon" when you could have "Power Orb"

2. What's with the terrain?? Are you mad? that thing is so bright you can't see your own writing for shit!!! Change the tileset, PLEASE!!

3. While i was playing i noticed, in the center of the map, there is a "doorway" why not make it so, any units that you have, MUST pass through the door to get into the enemy base, it would prevent players from flying a probe in through a side passage of the gate while there is no defense, entering and owning their opponent.

4. Some unit stats need to be fixed, if i play the game more, i'll write down some things.

5. Allow players to "upgrade" units? Say, if they bring a certain number of their units near the enemy base, the units upgrade?

6. The map should be more "mysterious" the theme of the map is mostly, cloaking and blood if im not mistaken somewhere, give the map mystery to it, (make cannons here and their owned by the com pthat are cloaked, under them, put a beacon (disable and kill to get the cool effect).

7. It seems that the game is limited to having terran units? Allow players to expand horizons and use protoss or zerg units in their armys.

8. Get rid of the power of infinite minerals, and raise building costs by a lot, getting mutalisks/sci vessels/wraiths is WAY too easy.

9. No upgrades... they are way too gay.

10. Make the game more playable for players, teach them how to do things if they need to, make a civ on the side somewhere, with a bunch of cloaked units that they get too make in the game, when they take their civ to one of the units, it quiclky teachs them how to cloak.

11. As i said a while back: Limit the number of any given unit a player can control, warn them whwen they are near the limit, then remove a bunch of the units that went over the limit.

12. Massing is useless, get rid of the mass beacons that are on the side.

13. The map is much too "open" stick mineral patches here and there, and make players expand their base.

14. It's much to easy for a plaeyer to wall the whole map, and block off any entrance in any way.

15. Stick some trees and rocks here and there on the map, it's way too empty

16. Maybe you should allowed players to choose races in game? It's just an idea

17. Either, raise the price of heroes by a huge amount, or get rid of them totally, they are pretty much useless.

18. Add more units that players acn get, for ex. if a player bought a zealot, it would give him/her a dark templar.

19. Zeratul's hp must be raised!! and his attack should also be raised!!

All for now, when i do some more testing i'll probably find more things.
 

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temp who's temp? or am i temp? are you saying tassadar is a templar? Wait im all mixied up..
 

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Originally posted by irunthemile
I have become quite discouraged because of the lax of emphasis in this caln of actually trying to get new members. If my map sucks, i am ok with that, but i want to know how to make it better. So far i have not been flamed about this.
How active would you be in trying to get members if you have been constantly bothered all the time your on battle net but massive waves of newbs wanting to join your clan for for the last year.

irunthemile:shoot "ha ha i shoot you"
 

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irunthemile, no offense but being discouraged at a clan is kind of stupid. They have lives, not just trying to get new members, if you are seriously in need of getting into the clan, be patient, and contact one of the lower members or something, and ask them to contact the leader , or just contact him right here, and tell him you would really like to show him a nice map, and tell him it hoguth it was nice, maybe that will encourage him.
 

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first off, yes tass u are temp...
and u guys my frustration is not so extreme as i hold it against the clan but some poeple are just jerks *cough* Mathrix(U) *cough* and i know that newbs annoyy many people in the channel and clan. so i will make the changes that temP(tass) said and i will try again at a later time.
 

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HEY matrix thats a bad idea your talking about my clan here.

As far as jerks it is unavoidable i try to keep non-compatable people out of the clan but it is hard since there all "two faced" (shows me a differant side than they really are, or suck up). But as with any large group of people there becomes dislike the only solution to this is to ban everyone but about 8 people (that wouldn't be nice)
 

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lol, two faced people... you always see their good side first...

Back to the map, "irunthemile" i just noticed something when i went to:
dacoolokane.tk

Are you sure you made this map? I think that someone else.. known mostly as Dacoolokane made it...
 

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yes tass, i did make it. this is what happened.
Dacool release the first version witch really sucked. if u want it i will send it to you. i emailed him and i said that there were many inadequacies and he said i could do some work on it.
to tell u the truth i didn't just work on it, i remade it. at first there were no heros, mass attack, protoss, many spelling mistikes, flawed triggers, unfair advantages. but what i did was i left his name on it, and i put mine on also. he came up with the 3v3 idea and the cloak theme, i made it a reality. ask me if u want the origional game.

lol bolthead i understand completely, but after i make all of these changes MP will not be able to turn it down. i am working really hard on it.
 

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lol ok anyways irunthemile, i would like to see the original version for private reasons (mostly about the rating i gave you and some other crap my friend is giving me), if you can post it here, or e-mail it to me that would be nice.
 

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