Best MF % for PindleBot?

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Hi Guys
I am wondering what's the best mf for pindle because when i have done my first runs with ca.250-300mf i found good uniques sets like grisworlds,buls,messerschmidts over night...

Now i increased my mf i am still at ~410mf and the first night was bad only crappy rare rings and amuletts...

Post your pindle mf show you free!!!:D
 

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More the better..


just make sure you can still survive threw a pindle run dont' wanna looes too many bonuses for MF
 

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gormna is absolutely right. you can never have too much.

but just fyi. theirs less than a 100% mf difference to find a unique between 400-1000% mf. just keep that in mind next time a choice over more resists or more mf comes up.
 

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yes.. 400 is the golden number..having more is nice but not totally necessary... much rahter have 400 mf and kill Pindle NP and real fast than have 800 MF and kill him slowly w/ chance of diein
 

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okay now im on 434 mf and my ama kann easily kill pindle i hope this night is not as bad as yesterday...
I read in forums that ppl with high mf only found shitty items rare amuletts etc...i thi8nk when you go 2 high (on pindle) bad pickups are the result.

okay im going to bed gN8
 

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nah... just some stupid theory.


i was told that the key to Pindle ( and perhapss other mobs ) for mf is Having MF itself and also being close to that mobs lvl .. like pindle is lvl 95 .. a lvl 95 sorc MIGHT ( or i'm told) get better stuff than a lvl 82 sorc .. with same MF. but other than that its all luck... for example with my sorc i've found jack shizznit on cow runs.. i go to a cow game with my zon ( sroc has 400 mf .. zon has 0 ) and i found a few uniques. nothing spetacular but it was firsts ... so0o u can be superstitious if you wnat to but MF Helps .. never hurts.
 

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I use 700MF and i find Lots of stuff.. Last night i got Bul-kathos Set Mythical Sword, Cranium Basher(217%) and ANOTHER tals amulet.
 

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Ok I think there is a certain magic find that you will have a better chance either that or gormna's level thing. I have over 500 MF my friend has around 300 or exactly. I did over 2,000 runs got about 2 soj's worth of stuff. He did about 600 and got about 40 sojs worth of stuff. But im level 87 and he is 91. So I think it has somthin to do with that. I also find pretty crappy rings and amulets.
 
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this night black hades + wizardpike.
today i will turn my mf back to 325-350...
I still want to test it.
 

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Originally posted by nagol
Ok I think there is a certain magic find that you will have a better chance either that or gormna's level thing. I have over 500 MF my friend has around 300 or exactly. I did over 2,000 runs got about 2 soj's worth of stuff. He did about 600 and got about 40 sojs worth of stuff. But im level 87 and he is 91. So I think it has somthin to do with that. I also find pretty crappy rings and amulets.
you would have to do a million runs before you could even begin to compare what he gets with his mf and you get with your mf. thats the kinda odds your working with.

but you go ahead. do a million runs. have your friend do a million runs and then come and tell us what you found.
 

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Originally posted by r34l
this night black hades + wizardpike.
today i will turn my mf back to 325-350...
I still want to test it.
2000 runs is inefficent to test mf. the chance for anything unique to drop is less than 1 hundreth of a %. the game doesnt know whats worth alot and what isnt.

a sash is less likely to drop from hell pindle than a slayer guard.

and a sash even if its lenymo is worthless. on the other hand slayer guard could be areats face and is worth a few soj.

your testing is futile. you cant prove anything. and are just stirring up more rumors. less mf is never better.
 
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U guys got horrible drops... Well not to bad.... I have lvl 99 Sorc orb/ts/nova/static i have 575%mf and have drops like these
02/09/25 02:21:21 Tal Rasha's Lacquered Plate
02/09/26 03:30:44 [Elite] Schaefer's Hammer
02/09/26 14:51:35 [Exceptional] Homunculus
02/09/27 08:01:00 [Elite] Harlequin Crest
02/09/27 11:16:52 Tal Rasha's Lacquered Plate
02/09/28 11:15:03 [Exceptional] Shaftstop
02/09/29 11:54:58 M'avina's Diadem
02/10/03 08:07:23 [Elite] Windforce
02/10/03 16:02:51 [Elite] Doombringer
02/10/04 02:59:07 [Elite] Stormshield
02/10/07 09:15:55 Tal Rasha's Lacquered Plate
02/10/07 23:15:15 [Exceptional] Vampiregaze
02/10/14 10:59:41 [Elite] The Grandfather
02/10/15 05:49:25 [Exceptional] The Oculus
02/10/15 07:48:04 [Exceptional] Gerke's Sanctuary

this is on one computer running on and off... the other is alot better... with another wf and more storms and more tals amors... but maybe im special :D but i also did
[Statistics]
TotalRuns=16134
TotalFrags=14707
TotalSuccessRate=91
LastRuns=784
LastFrags=725
LastSuccessRate=92
to be able to get that.... :D so keep on trying.. wearing tgods belt helps with LE pindle.. alot... my % is down cause i get d2 errors :( good luck tho... lvl 99 is good :D
 

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What is the best item to use for an amazon (mf wise) during pindle runs.
Please let me know what you guys think.
Thanks
 

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Originally posted by TheunknownPerson
U guys got horrible drops... Well not to bad.... I have lvl 99 Sorc orb/ts/nova/static i have 575%mf and have drops like these
02/09/25 02:21:21 Tal Rasha's Lacquered Plate
02/09/26 03:30:44 [Elite] Schaefer's Hammer
02/09/26 14:51:35 [Exceptional] Homunculus
02/09/27 08:01:00 [Elite] Harlequin Crest
02/09/27 11:16:52 Tal Rasha's Lacquered Plate
02/09/28 11:15:03 [Exceptional] Shaftstop
02/09/29 11:54:58 M'avina's Diadem
02/10/03 08:07:23 [Elite] Windforce
02/10/03 16:02:51 [Elite] Doombringer
02/10/04 02:59:07 [Elite] Stormshield
02/10/07 09:15:55 Tal Rasha's Lacquered Plate
02/10/07 23:15:15 [Exceptional] Vampiregaze
02/10/14 10:59:41 [Elite] The Grandfather
02/10/15 05:49:25 [Exceptional] The Oculus
02/10/15 07:48:04 [Exceptional] Gerke's Sanctuary

this is on one computer running on and off... the other is alot better... with another wf and more storms and more tals amors... but maybe im special :D but i also did
[Statistics]
TotalRuns=16134
TotalFrags=14707
TotalSuccessRate=91
LastRuns=784
LastFrags=725
LastSuccessRate=92
to be able to get that.... :D so keep on trying.. wearing tgods belt helps with LE pindle.. alot... my % is down cause i get d2 errors :( good luck tho... lvl 99 is good :D
I don't see "how" many runs you do matters or not. I can clearly see you got like 6-8 drops per day all elite-exceptional. What is boggling my mind is how much this game is based upon luck. I have like 400+% MF, and I do Orb/Nova/TS/Static runs, they're approx 3-5 more secs longer than your standard novasorc.js script runs. I kill everysingle type of Pindle and never die. But I leave the script on all day and come back with a Nagel Ring ;o.

I'm not impatient. I am just confused HOW blizzard's MF system actually works.
 

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Originally posted by noobwashere
What is the best item to use for an amazon (mf wise) during pindle runs.
Please let me know what you guys think.
Thanks
I play with a lvl 95 amazon and use harle(pt),skullders(pt),tankreds amu+boots(78mf),goldwarph,chanceguards(36),21mf ring with 6ll,nagelring(26mf) and a few mf charms
finally i got exact 450%mf
 

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EDITED: did some wrong calculations

Originally posted by Seks
I don't see "how" many runs you do matters or not. I can clearly see you got like 6-8 drops per day all elite-exceptional. What is boggling my mind is how much this game is based upon luck. I have like 400+% MF, and I do Orb/Nova/TS/Static runs, they're approx 3-5 more secs longer than your standard novasorc.js script runs. I kill everysingle type of Pindle and never die. But I leave the script on all day and come back with a Nagel Ring ;o.

I'm not impatient. I am just confused HOW blizzard's MF system actually works.
see what you went and did real? now i have to clean up your mess.

6-8 drops TODAY mabey. but what about next week. how about last week? its like saying the chicago bulls is and always will be the best basketball team of all time because they were undeafeated when they had michael jordan.

you have to look at the BIG picture. not just the one week that you got good drops.

the odds of ANY drop are so small. to accuratly calculate mf you would need to do millions of runs. cause this week with 2000 runs you might not get shit. but next week you might have 3 wf's drop.

MORE MF IS ALWAYS BETTER! but, their is always a but. it diminishes for rares, sets, and uniques after 100%mf. Up to 100%mf, its a 100% chance for everything: magic, rare, set, unique. after that the chances diminish. at 400% mf you have a 300% chance for a rare, 287% chance for a set, and a 236% chance for a unique to drop. at 1000%mf you have a 460% chance for a rare, 421% chance for a set, and a 295% chance for a unique.

now lets just assume for a second that you have 1000%mf. and the chance for a unique to dorp is 295%. lets calulate out the chance to get somthing good like a wf off of pindle shall we?

pindle has a chance of .108% to drop a hydra bow. so you would statistically have to run about 1000 runs just to have a NORMAL hydra bow drop. so lets say a hydra bow does drop once every 1000 runs. now every time it drops it has to run through if it will be cruel, normal, superior, magical, rare, (their is no set), or unique.

now pindles chance to drop the all important unique version is .001%. that would mean that with no mf you would need to do ON AVERAGE about 100,000 runs. and even with say 1000%mf or the equivalent to uniques mf which is 295% you would only have a .00395% chance for it to drop. which is ABOUT once every 25,000 runs.

now you might say to yourself. "i have about 400-500% mf. that would mean i should have a wf drop once every about 30,000 runs. and one hasnt dropped yet after doing 30,000 runs." but now you have to remember this is an AVERAGE. which to calculate accuratly you would need to do about 100 times the amount of whatever your drop rate is to get an accurate picture of the average. which would mean that the average joe (YOU) would need to do about 3,000,000 runs before you could accuratly see the average.

the reason for this is because granted you might not get one in your first 30,000 runs. but you might get 2 on your second 30,000 runs. or you might have gotten one in your first 100 runs but wont get another for around 60,000 runs.

when it comes right down to it its all about PROBABILITY! remember that when you were in algerbra in highschool? mabey not for some of you younger kids. but you'll learn about it someday soon.

and i hate you ppl for making me type all this shit out instead of just LISTENING TO ME because i know wtf im talking about.
 

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so ya how do you get those Statistics ... like these.. ya.. i wanna noe heh

[Statistics]
TotalRuns=16134
TotalFrags=14707
TotalSuccessRate=91
LastRuns=784
LastFrags=725
LastSuccessRate=92
 

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