Why I hate our electoral process

[Lizardbreath]

Candidates only have to work to win a few key states to win the election and not win the popular vote. Basically making a bunch of hillbillies opinions greater than everybody else's. I say our candidates grow some balls and demand a popular vote.

Who agrees?

 

[Tw@]

with that title, I was expecting a post a lot like this

 

[Lizardbreath]

That works also.

 

[Tw@]

you mean you aren't polling to get that post removed because i had no reason to post it except to make fun of him?
Hypocrite.

 

[TrongaMonga]

I have to agree, it's a weird electoral system you guys have. It's not the majority of the people that wins (that'd be a democracy), but the majority of the states. It's just weird, since they're so differently populated.

I guess the logic behind that would be that each state has its own community where they all think alike, but you really can't speak of homogenized community in the US, yet.

Heck, we can't do that in Portugal, and we're 900 years old.

 

[Wing Zero]

I have to agree, it's a weird electoral system you guys have. It's not the majority of the people that wins (that'd be a democracy), but the majority of the states. It's just weird, since they're so differently populated.

it is kinda based on population. The larger the population, the more points the state is worth

 

[TrongaMonga]

Kinda, but not entirely. I just don't get why all the effort into that, when it's actually even easier, and more democratic, to do it the simple way.

 

[Wing Zero]

i think its to account for people who dont vote. then again i dont know anything about the electoral college

 

[Jimbo]

I HEARD YOU HAVE TO HAVE A REAL HIGH SAT SCORE TO GET IN

 

[Tipsy]

Candidates only have to work to win a few key states to win the election and not win the popular vote. Basically making a bunch of hillbillies opinions greater than everybody else's. I say our candidates grow some balls and demand a popular vote.

Who agrees?

That's a great argument for the pros and cons of both systems.

 

[N[U]TS]

Candidates only have to work to win a few key states to win the election and not win the popular vote. Basically making a bunch of hillbillies opinions greater than everybody else's. I say our candidates grow some balls and demand a popular vote.

Who agrees?

I disagree. America cant even get above 65% for voter turn out in presidential elections -- SAD! What makes it worse is voter turn out for county and state is much less. Some people just do not get involved and some just are not informed enough to cast an educated vote. Example I am going to vote straight Republican ticket because my dad is one or vice versa for Democrat. It even gets as bad as "Hey, he or she is good looking -- They have my vote".

I believe the electoral college is effective which is why it has lasted for so long.
Founding fathers = brilliant.

i think its to account for people who dont vote. then again i dont know anything about the electoral college

Yes, it does account for people who do not vote since the number of electors is proportional to population. Example California posses 55 electoral votes and Texas has 34.

 

[Metal Gear Flash]

"... God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty.... And what country can preserve its liberties, if it's rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."

-Thomas Jefferson

 

[N[U]TS]

The people cannot be all, and always, well informed

We choose to be or not to be informed when it comes to politics. Back then this statement would be true but today we have internet and television. They did not even know of electricity back then. Heck the postal service was not even around back then.

 

[x42bn6]

i think its to account for people who dont vote. then again i dont know anything about the electoral college

If some people do not vote, with such a large population, it can be assumed that the absence of votees is of the same distribution as those that vote. For example, if a state is 70-30 Republican-Democrat, then the number of absentees is also proportioned 70-30.

If such an assumption cannot be made, then too bad, it's the politicians' faults for not convincing people to vote. But giving undue weight to states is hardly a way of fixing such things - as it would undoubtedly skew results in favour of one party or another.*

 

[Tipsy]

The most effective system in regards to voter turn, not taking power away from small states, keeping the legitimacy of a public mandate, and keeping the legitimacy of the electoral college would be a proportional electoral college rather than the winner-take-all electoral college we have now or a direct popular election.

 

[Tw@]

We need a new Jackson. That mother ****er got kids to vote

 

[CelestialBadger]

I don't vote and bush sucks. Waiting for the communist revolution.

 

[Tw@]

better red than dead

 

[Wing Zero]

"... God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty.... And what country can preserve its liberties, if it's rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."

-Thomas Jefferson

Early on jefferson didnt believe that what they made will last

If some people do not vote, with such a large population, it can be assumed that the absence of votees is of the same distribution as those that vote. For example, if a state is 70-30 Republican-Democrat, then the number of absentees is also proportioned 70-30.

i also accounted for that. its odd yet its still being used

 

[N[U]TS]

I don't vote and bush sucks. Waiting for the communist revolution.

heh you really dont have a right to b*tch if you dont vote.