Whirlwind Assassin Guide

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This is my first, so feel free to comment/suggest/edit things. No flaming or cocksuckers though, ty :)

Iownthefrench's Guide for a WW Assassin:

Stats
Str: Enough for gear (which could be over 200+ depending on armor)
Dex:222 dex (for max block with SS at level 99)
Skills (75 points total)
MAX Claw Mastery
MAX Venom
MAX Cloak of Shadows
1 Mind Blast
6 Burst of Speed
1 Dragon Flight
1 Wake of Fire
6 Prerequisites
Gear:
Weapon:
Chaos Claws (obviously)
9% Chance To Cast Level 11 Frozen Orb On Striking
11% Chance To Cast Level 9 Charged Bolt On Striking
+35% Increased Attack Speed
+290-340% Enhanced Damage (varies)
Adds 216-471 Magic Damage
25% Chance of Open Wounds
+1 To Whirlwind
+10 To Strength
+15 Life After Each Demon Kill
Shield:
Storm Shield (socket with an um or whatever else you'd like)
+ (3.75 Per Character Level) 3-371 Defense (Based On Character Level)
+25% Increased Chance Of Blocking
35% Faster Block Rate
Damage Reduced By 35%
Cold Resist +60%
Lightning Resist +25%
+30 To Strength
Attacker Takes Lightning Damage of 10
Indestructible
Body:
Bramble
Level 15-21 Thorns Aura When Equipped (varies)
+50% Faster Hit Recovery
+25-50% To Poison Skill Damage (varies)
+300 Defense
Increase Maximum Mana 5%
Regenerate Mana 15%
+5% To Maximum Cold Resist
Fire Resist +30%
Poison Resist +100%
+13 Life After Each Kill
Level 13 Spirit of Barbs (33 Charges)
Or
Stone:
+60% Faster Hit Recovery
+250-290% Enhanced Defense (varies)
+300 Defense Vs. Missile
+16 To Strength
+16 To Vitality
+10 To Energy
All Resistances +15
Level 16 Molten Boulder (80 Charges)
Level 16 Clay Golem (16 Charges)
Gloves
Trang Oul's Gloves:
+20% Faster Cast Rate
Cold Resist +30%
+30 Defense
+25% Poison Skill Damage
+2 To Curses (Necromancer Only)
or
Dracul's Grasp:
+90-120% Enhanced Defense (varies)
+10-15 To Strength (varies)
+5-10 Life After Each Kill (varies)
25% Chance of Open Wounds
7-10% Life Stolen Per Hit (varies)
5% Chance To Cast Level 10 Life Tap On Striking
Boots:
Shadow Dancers (if you can get them)
+70-100% Enhanced Defense (varies)
+1-2 To Shadow Disciplines (Assassin Only) (varies)
+30% Faster Run/Walk
+30% Faster Hit Recovery
+15-25 To Dexterity (varies)
Requirements -20%
or
Gore Riders (up'd if you can get them)
+160-200% Enhanced Defense (varies)
30% Faster Run/Walk
10% Chance Of Open Wounds
15% Chance Of Crushing Blow
15% Deadly Strike
Requirements -25%
+20 Maximum Stamina
Belt:
Nosferatu's Coil
Slows Target By 10%
+2 To Mana After Each Kill
5-7% Life Stolen Per Hit (varies)
+15 To Strength
10% Increased Attack Speed
-3 To Light Radius
Rings:
Raven Frost and perf Wisp projector for nice elemental reductions
I guess you could add in any nice resist/dual leech rings you prefer, w/e
Ammy:
Again, any nice rare with resists, assassin skills, etc.
Or I'd get highlords or maras, for nice resists and other attributes, or get rising sun if you want some fire absorb too...
Helm:
Crown of Ages (socket however you need it most...)
+50% Enhanced Defense
+100-150 Defense (varies)
+1 To All Skills
Damage Reduced By 10-15% (varies)
All Resistances +20-30 (varies)
+30% Faster Hit Recovery
Socketed (1-2) (varies)
Indestructible
Charms:
Mana charms are awesome, since WW has such a high cost and +skills doesn’t help much. Don’t use poison charms, they just screw your venom poison time over. The main point of
this build IS the poison damage and the .4 second inflict time. Life charms are also nice, and
martial art skill GCs are awesome because almost all of your skills ARE martial arts. So knock
yourself out.
Jewels
Stick 5/5 poison facets wherever you can, it's not like it can hurt =/

Reasons:
I chose most of this gear because it gives you,.
if you can afford it, you get 50% DR (max), 75% chance to block,
a ton of defense, 2nd break point for faster block, nice absorbs and
resists, 4 frame hit recovery, good venom damage and the fastest
hit rate (7.5fpa) for an assassin. This means more hits when you
use whirlwind and faster attack in general (which can’t hurt). Also,
the reason I chose to use an SS over two claws was based on the
fact Assassins have such a great block rate, and not only that but
the large amount of dex required to make a melee build successful like
this naturally gets you full block.

The basic strategy is as follows, you dragon flight onto someone, then
use whirlwind. Venom takes them to one hp, and then you just mind
blast them if they try to run. I added Wake of Fire just in case you need
to hold someone down in order to WW them.

The remaining 36 points can go into whatever. Suggestions include
beefing up mindblast, dragon flight, shadow master, dragon talon,
tiger strike, etc. Or fade if you want extra protection from casters.

Not only that, but the idea of using the +poison skill things like trangs
gloves only in town while casting venom might be a good idea if it applies
the effects immediately and then switching back. Maybe also having a
weapon switch of 2 bartucs or 2 +3 venom claws to precast might be a
good strategy along those lines.
 

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nah, this one owns the other one. but u should not that u should switch around belt and rings. like 2 wisp 2 raven or 2 dwarfs. u never know what comes up. oh and belt tgods just to carry in case. i personally would also carry 160% cold and 160% lite shield for Foh/Orb/Blizzard
Other than that Very Nice Guide
 

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Skills (75 points total)
MAX Claw Mastery
MAX Venom
MAX Cloak of Shadows
1 Mind Blast
6 Burst of Speed
1 Dragon Flight
1 Wake of Fire
6 Prerequisites
Eh hem. May I ask why you'd learn that?
 

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not bad... but u need some tweaking a bit. this is pretty good for first guide... BUT WHY SS/CHAOS?! maybe chaos/fury or something?
 

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Mr.Sloth said:
not bad... but u need some tweaking a bit. this is pretty good for first guide... BUT WHY SS/CHAOS?! maybe chaos/fury or something?
For resist?

I think Jade Talon would be better for resist? Maybe?
 

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N_ said:
Eh hem. May I ask why you'd learn that?
It triggers zons dodge skills

Its also probably better to go c/c, and there are several other thing i disagree with, i just dont have time right now
 

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Few things to add.

I'd do max claw block (blocking orb shards anyone?) and chaos/fury claw. That's just me though. Also, WW with two weapons is twice the pain :doh

Nice guide.
 

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WildfireFX said:
Few things to add.

I'd do max claw block (blocking orb shards anyone?) and chaos/fury claw. That's just me though. Also, WW with two weapons is twice the pain :doh

Nice guide.
I'm aware that claw block can block magic attacks too, but like was said earlier dual absorb rings or an ammy or whatever other absorb shit you'd like should do the trick. Before everyone starts screaming claw/claw I chose the SS for better blocking and faster blocking. You're already going to have the dex, might as well use it. So on that line, 2 questions... what is the block RATE on claw block and as far as i've seen, 2 claws doesn't mean twice the hits on whirlwind, it just means switching off hits between the two claws. Maybe it changed in 1.10, I never use barbs and hence haven't used WW since probably before LoD came out (the only barb I did make was a throwing barb)
 

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Okay im newb with ww assasins. WHY cloak of shadows? AND WHY BoS... does ias affect ww? and also uhmmmmmmmmm why not fade? it has dr and resist... so dont flame me plz im just noob with ww asn.
 

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If you max Fade, don't put points into BoS. Just max out others, like Shadow Master, Claw Block, Fade, Venom. If you are lucky enough to find a +1 DF / +1 MB Elite claw, that can save many points.

Do not use a shield on the assassin. Either use Malice (Open Wounds), or a very high damage (300+) claw to do some more damage. You will be criticized and not be using all of your potential if you use a shield. You won't be hit much, considering you're off screen for most of the time.

I'm pretty sure I -could- make a better ww sin guide, but it's late right now.

Oh, and your guide isn't a guide. Possibly over 200 strength? Have you even made a WW sin before? Jesus.

Dexterity will not need to be that high. You will probably be using a Ravenfrost, so that's 20 dex. And most duelers are around 85 or so, so build your guide around that.
 

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Kao said:
If you max Fade, don't put points into BoS. Just max out others, like Shadow Master, Claw Block, Fade, Venom. If you are lucky enough to find a +1 DF / +1 MB Elite claw, that can save many points.

Do not use a shield on the assassin. Either use Malice (Open Wounds), or a very high damage (300+) claw to do some more damage. You will be criticized and not be using all of your potential if you use a shield. You won't be hit much, considering you're off screen for most of the time.

I'm pretty sure I -could- make a better ww sin guide, but it's late right now.

Oh, and your guide isn't a guide. Possibly over 200 strength? Have you even made a WW sin before? Jesus.

Dexterity will not need to be that high. You will probably be using a Ravenfrost, so that's 20 dex. And most duelers are around 85 or so, so build your guide around that.
First, it seems like you conflict yourself. If you're off the screen most of the time, then why would you want fade, a purely defensive skill, and only 64 to all resists at level 20, against the fastest frames per attack for that split second you're on it. Second, for all of us people that can't get a quote "high damage claw" or even know what to look for, tell us a high damaged claw that has 300 damage. And I'm guessing that's purely physical. Second, you have enough points to max all that and whatever else you feel like, considering you still have another 37 points after this build. You're also forgetting this build practically revolves around poison damage, I could care less about that high claw damage. And did you just say build my guide around a single stat (dex)?! And you're criticizing me for this guide?? My god...

And second off, saying this isn't a guide because I said that the amount of strength is optional and should vary on equipment is bullshit, other people do this too, and unless you'd like me to pull some random estimate out of my ass or just put max str as the storm shield's. And using a storm shield doesn't "use all of your potential", it uses different potential. I'm tired of all these people doing one thing and only one thing and criticizing someone when they try something original. And if it really makes you happy, use your two claws, just replace the word "shield" with "right hand claw". I'd use a shield. That's my opinion. You can have yours.

And as for saying you could make a better guide, the only reason I made this one was to criticize vizjeri's. So go ahead and make this uber better guide yourself, kid.

Oh, and on a less defensive platform, Mr. Sloth, cloak is for passive defense reduction and defensive boost, it is a nice and highly underused skill IMO. I think you can read above to figure out why I used BoS, mainly for the best FPA (Frames Per Attack) you could get. Because really this is mostly about getting in poison damage in the shortest time possible.
 

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Guru said:
It triggers zons dodge skills

Its also probably better to go c/c, and there are several other thing i disagree with, i just dont have time right now
wait wait, wake of fire gives Asn dodge skills? Or do you mean clock of shadow?
 

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No as in wake of fire wll make the amazon dodge then there will be a delay where they cant doge. u hit them during the delay
 

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Mr.Sloth said:
No as in wake of fire wll make the amazon dodge then there will be a delay where they cant doge. u hit them during the delay
ohh I see, wow Ive never thougth of that ;)
 

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WHY CLOAk of shadows? and why BoS? does it affect ww? and why not fade.. it has dr and resist. ALso why not weapon block?
 

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Ok, so you would rather have some more IAS and FRW, as opposed to using Fade, which will be at least level 30 on this build with just the charms, and the passive DR on it, which at level 35 will be enough to make a difference, and the Curse / Poison Duration. Wow, seems you really just pulled that out of your ass. Next time try posting more on why/what you did with the stats and layout, instead of taking 4/5 of your post with listing the stats on your items.

And about the high damage claw- It's called an Eth Rare weapon. Last season I found a 364 damage claw. It's not too hard.
 

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