What's the best form of government

[Murderer99]

I think Socialsm works the best.

 

[Deathmate]

Democracy.

 

[ShenLiang]

I would say we can never have a best form of govmt. cuz with us being the stupid humans we are we always find a way to scew it up.So I say the world should be run by a dictator who ends up killing everything so we never have to worry about politics again

 

[coRtALoS]

Originally posted by ShenLiang
I would say we can never have a best form of govmt. cuz with us being the stupid humans we are we always find a way to scew it up.So I say the world should be run by a dictator who ends up killing everything so we never have to worry about politics again

You Facist.

Additionally, Socialism isn't exactly a form of government. It's more of an economical system in which the government controls all aspects of the nation's economy. Saying Socialism is a form of government, is like saying Capitalism is a form of government.

I think what Murderer99 meant to say was Communism, which is what my vote is for.

People mistake Communism with Facism, in which there is a dictatorship. If you actually know history, and aren't an ignorant ****, you'd know that the establishment of a dictator is the 3rd step in creating a true Communist country. The final step being the abdication of the dictator from power, and the complete dissolution of the government as a structure.

The only point of creating a dictatorship is to allow the government that still exists, time to establish common laws all are expected to follow on their own, once the government collapses. Lenin, and Stalin, both hiding under the guise of 'Communism', were really Facists. Communism in it's true form is essentially Anarchy minus the chaos... no government.

This would never come to pass however. Human greed, or the greed of neighboring countries would easily make this political philosophy never succeed so long as the human race continues to be greedy, and desire power... essentially never.

 

[Deathmate]

Originally posted by coRtALoS
You Facist.

Additionally, Socialism isn't exactly a form of government. It's more of an economical system in which the government controls all aspects of the nation's economy. Saying Socialism is a form of government, is like saying Capitalism is a form of government.

I think what Murderer99 meant to say was Communism, which is what my vote is for.

People mistake Communism with Facism, in which there is a dictatorship. If you actually know history, and aren't an ignorant ****, you'd know that the establishment of a dictator is the 3rd step in creating a true Communist country. The final step being the abdication of the dictator from power, and the complete dissolution of the government as a structure.

The only point of creating a dictatorship is to allow the government that still exists, time to establish common laws all are expected to follow on their own, once the government collapses. Lenin, and Stalin, both hiding under the guise of 'Communism', were really Facists. Communism in it's true form is essentially Anarchy minus the chaos... no government.

This would never come to pass however. Human greed, or the greed of neighboring countries would easily make this political philosophy never succeed so long as the human race continues to be greedy, and desire power... essentially never.

Communism is on my list as one of the WORST forms of government lol.

 

[coRtALoS]

Meaning you'd put Facism above that? So if you had to make a choice between Facism and Communism... you'd pick completely losing your identity/freedom/ability to make your own descisions, over just that opposite? You'd rather live your life doing what one person tells you to do because he was chosen as the leader of you and the rest of your country?

I'm not trying to change your opinion... most people know trying to change someone's mind is the biggest waste of effort you can make... trying to make someone think differently for their life. I just don't understand why you immediately say that without supporting your statement.

 

[Deathmate]

Originally posted by coRtALoS
Meaning you'd put Facism above that? So if you had to make a choice between Facism and Communism... you'd pick completely losing your identity/freedom/ability to make your own descisions, over just that opposite? You'd rather live your life doing what one person tells you to do because he was chosen as the leader of you and the rest of your country?

I'm not trying to change your opinion... most people know trying to change someone's mind is the biggest waste of effort you can make... trying to make someone think differently for their life. I just don't understand why you immediately say that without supporting your statement.

Dont act like an idiot, you know I said ONE of the worst

 

[bakfed]

i believe there will neva b da perfect government ever developed amonst the human race...cuz there's always some flaws, some holes within human minds, and controlled either by greed or power, these 2 characters both damage our society as a whole, and our government, as the society's root

 

[Murderer99]

I never meant what was the perfect form. Utopian government is impossible without thousands of years of evolution. I'm saying what's the best form that we flawed humans can produce. I like a socialist republic because it's run by the people and everyone has a much better chance to succeed and contribute to society. However it isn't to communistic in that dictators rule and everything is government run. I feel it's a fair balance between the 2.

 

[coRtALoS]

Originally posted by Murderer99
I never meant what was the perfect form. Utopian government is impossible without thousands of years of evolution. I'm saying what's the best form that we flawed humans can produce. I like a socialist republic because it's run by the people and everyone has a much better chance to succeed and contribute to society. However it isn't to communistic in that dictators rule and everything is government run. I feel it's a fair balance between the 2.

Heh, I guess you didn't read my post at all dude. I clearly stated exactly what a Communist government ultimately becomes... which is nothing. Before you people start talking about something, please make sure you've read up on it. Ignorance is so frustrating.

For those of you that want the Cliff Notes on Communism because you can't stand reading what I posted above, here you go...

Communism... means... no... government. Russia... wasn't... really... Communist. It... was... Facist.

 

[Murderer99]

No I didn't sorry kinda glossed over that one. See communism in it's perfect form is imposible. The no government form is too utopian in my opinion to work. The only type that ever exists is the perverted and violent kind that Mao and Stalin used. Which really should'nt be called communism. It's really facism with a communist twist. For future reference I never regard true communism as anything but a reality. That's why I refered to it as having a dictator.

 

[coRtALoS]

Alright, well at least I got a mature, and well thought-out response. Thank you for clarifying your point of view more.

Deathmate, what were the other forms of government on your "Worst List"? Facism, Communism, Democracy, Republic... what more is there? Or have you invented your own sick and twisted governments?

Additionally, I hope most of you can distinguish between a Republic and Democracy. We do not have a true Democracy in America. It is a Representational Democracy, which isn't too far from a Republic...

It's nice to think we do though, huh?

 

[Ghetto_Rap_Masta]

communism wouldve worked if the damn U.S bastards with thier narrow minded ideas wouldve given it a chance

 

[coRtALoS]

No, it never would've worked no matter what, because greedy, power-hungry selfish people are usually the ones that manage to rise to power. So why the **** would they ever relinquish that?

Human emotions. Greed, Self-Preservation, Ambition, and hundreds of other flaws humans have in general prevent any Utopian society from ever existing on a large-scale.

Things of this nature have occured, in fact there was a small section of New York, that actually did live in a Utopian society, where people shared their products from the stores they owned, and pretty much everything was free if you had something to trade. Only problem was when the US Government found out about it, they ended it abruptly. God forbid a perfect society, free of crime, and political corruption spring up in the United States.

 

[Deathmate]

Originally posted by coRtALoS
Alright, well at least I got a mature, and well thought-out response. Thank you for clarifying your point of view more.

Deathmate, what were the other forms of government on your "Worst List"? Facism, Communism, Democracy, Republic... what more is there? Or have you invented your own sick and twisted governments?

Additionally, I hope most of you can distinguish between a Republic and Democracy. We do not have a true Democracy in America. It is a Representational Democracy, which isn't too far from a Republic...

It's nice to think we do though, huh?

lol, you think there are only 4 forms of government? what a moron... lol.

Worst Forms Of Government (in no particular order)
1. Facism
2. Communism
3. Monarchy
4. Anarchy (if you can call it a form of government)
5. Aristocracy
6. Political Dynasty


The American Democracy is obviously the best form of government.

 

[Murderer99]

Actually the moron is you. We don't have a democracy in the U.S. We have a republic. In a true democracy an assembly of the entire populace votes every single law/ amendment. This is an impossible feat considering it failed even with a relatively small population in ancient Athens. Try imagining this with +300 million people.
This also brings me to another point. The only true perfect government can only occur in a very small group of people (5-30) that are all relatively pacifistic. That could still very well collapse from the Humanity's great and many flaws. Cortalos is completely right about perfect societies being impossible as long as we are still greedy, power-hungry, and violent. I alone possess at least one or two of those qualities.

 

[Tacitus]

The US currently has a Democratic (ruled by the "people") Aristocracy(ruled by rich people), i won't say anything else, simply because i don't want to get dragged into this