What is your opinion concerning suicide?

[Orcryst]

I happen to have a very long opinion, however, it would be interesting to hear other peoples' thoughts first.

 

[amrtin77]

well, unless its someone i care about i dont give a damn. if they cant handle this world, whose to stop them from exiting it. its not like they asked to be born into it anyway.


now people i care about its impossible to say that... im dealing with a very good freind of mine with this issue.. she cuts herself and she promises she wont go any further, but id hate to see her kill herself and im doin everything i can to try to get her to realize life isnt that bad..


i guess i dont care about suicide in general though. its their choice, but they have to realize how much its going to hurt the people that love them.

 

[Orcryst]

What if they have no one? They may be very bitter and lonely, or may even be killing themselves as an act of punishment.

--Keep 'em coming--

 

[RoaCh of DisCord]

Hmmmm...opinion on suicide...

Well, to start out...in my opinion, suicide is definitely the easy way out of life. It's a solution to problems that sometimes feel like they will never go away. In times of our lives, when things are just very rough, and problems feel almost impossible to overcome...sometimes death seems more pleasing than life. We just want to erase everything, and end it all, because we can't take what's going on in and around our own lives.

I personally, think that suicide is most cases, is definitely a selfish, weak act. The person doing this to themselves, basically no longer cares about what anyone else thinks and feels about them, and focuses on themselves, and what they want 100%. It's usually a quick, not thought out proccess, and an irrational act. The problem is, if someone does commit suicide, most of their family and friends suffer for it, for quite along time. No one ever quite knows what went wrong, and why the person had to end their life...so they end up blaming themselves.

The thing is though, it IS the person's own life. I believe that despite what other's think about it, and even if it is indeed a very selfish, weak act, they still should have the right to end their own pain. I mean, who are we to say someone can't kill themself? Who are we to stop them? I definitely wouldn't want someone telling me what I can or cannot do with my OWN life.

Most of the time, the person is just overwhelmed with depressesion, and chances are, in time...they can get over their problems and move on...yet at that very moment, it feels as if the problems will never end. It helps if they have someone to talk to...so that they can realise that there is so much more to life than what they feel. Sadly though, this isn't always the truth. Some people really DO have nothing...and time WON'T heal all wounds. Some people really do have no friends, no family, nothing...and are left alone. If they really think that suicide is their only way out, and they can no longer stand their pain, I say that it's their own choice, and no one should stand in their way.

 

[Korittke]

Suicide is perfectly O.K. since you could very well not die as your spirit continues to live, assuming that the world as you see it is just a product of your imagination coming to your sight without yourself knowing it. You get to know whether or not this view on things is true. If it is, you lose nothing, if it is not, it doesn't matter that you lost everything because you don't exist anymore.
Orcryst, would you mind trying?

 

[evilblanket]

If someone is screwed up enough to commit suicide, then let them.

If their parents didnt acknowledge them or try to help, then its their fault.

It could be genetic, it could be environmental, it doesnt matter.

The law of large numbers folks...sh*t happens. You cant prevent all bad things. Pick a couple and try to do something about it.

 

[Thistle]

they arent always screwed up. you don't understand.

the only reason I can see someone doing it is if they have no arms and no legs or are slowly dieing and there is no chance to get better.

 

[evilblanket]

yes, they are always screwed up. whether it be mental, or environmental, something in their lives makes them screwed up.

you are taking the words "screwed up" too literally.

so, to clarify: everyone that commits suicide is either mentally unstable, physically handicapped, or a product of a devastating environment...screwed up.

if you still think I dont understand, then please explain your opinion.

 

[Jiggy]

My life is good i guess. I have no reason to kill myself, although I cant say i havent thought about it, but I cant help but feel that my life will be much better when I am dead. The idea of a perfect, carefree afterlife is very appealing to me personally. I guess my point is I just want to hurry up and die, but I dont think suicide is the way to go.

 

[aphextwin]

i personally think that those who wants to kill themselves, go ahead.... its their personal choice...... its their fault they will cause the broken hearts of many.... if a good friend of mine consider suicide, i may try to relieve him/her. but really its their choice

 

[Forged]

If you think your life sucks enough to kill yourself then by all means, otherwise visit a therapist...

 

[Orcryst]

Originally posted by Korittke
Suicide is perfectly O.K. since you could very well not die as your spirit continues to live, assuming that the world as you see it is just a product of your imagination coming to your sight without yourself knowing it. You get to know whether or not this view on things is true. If it is, you lose nothing, if it is not, it doesn't matter that you lost everything because you don't exist anymore.
Orcryst, would you mind trying?

How do you know that the'spirit' even exists? Or that you REALLY find out if it IS true or not? What is death is blinder and more painful than life? What if there was a period we don't even know about that goes beyond death, life and afterlife?

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Guys, a lot of you are doing excellent, but please, I would like someone to unravel it more so.

 

[Korittke]

"How do you know that the'spirit' even exists?"
Decartes: I think therefore I am.

"What if there was a period we don't even know about that goes beyond death, life and afterlife?"
Per definition such a period cannot exist. You either lose existance or your spirit continues to live or you live again reinceranted or there aer several other possibilities like heaven or a soul-heaven but your statement makes no sense.

 

[Orcryst]

Originally posted by Korittke
"How do you know that the'spirit' even exists?"
Decartes: I think therefore I am.

"What if there was a period we don't even know about that goes beyond death, life and afterlife?"
Per definition such a period cannot exist. You either lose existance or your spirit continues to live or you live again reinceranted or there aer several other possibilities like heaven or a soul-heaven but your statement makes no sense.

Prove that your statement does, and we'll talk over a cup of tea. If you keep saying what you don't know, like for example, when you said that such a period cannot exist...

The human mind, or maybe just a couple human minds cannot comprehend anything that isn't logical. But heaven isn't logical, yet you say that such a place DOES make sense? You say I make no sense at all, and you then say "there aer several other possibilities like heaven or soul-heaven". But if all you pay attention to is that which makes sense, maybe you are too simple. Just because something doesn't make sense does not mean that it cannot exist. Anything is a possibility, and I mean anything. Even things that go so far beyond the boundries of making sense and not making sense, that it isn't even physical or non-physical, it's just there.
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A note to the moderators: this is not a debate, I'm just justifying my opinion.
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[DwarfSpirits]

There are other things to try before suicide. Maybe you think your at wits end and you cant get out...even if your not religious, go to a church and speak with a counsellor. what percent of nonmuslim religions commit suicide? a rather low number, so why not get religious counselling

 

[Orcryst]

That may be a solution to younger ones, and I am quite young, but more complicated. I am open-minded, yes, but only to open advice.

 

[DwarfSpirits]

well, maybe you should consider about how bad your (as in the person compenplating suicide) life is. Ok, *example* you were dumped by your gf/bf and have been having bad luck ever since and now you in a shithole...and your compenplating suicide. Now, there are kids that live in africa that have a worse life than you because their government doesnt care or their parents dont care. Did you know that in S.A there are kids that must resort to prostitiution to survive? what are you doing to survive? little to nothing and if you are doing something your making something over 2k a year. The average salary in 3rd world countries today is something between 60 and 200 dollars. Now who lives a worse life? you, or them?

thats why i wont bring myself to suicide. because if someone that has a worse life than i do but lives does so, i can do it too.

 

[AxL]

It is a coward act. You are hurting everyone around you for some pitiful reasons. Unless you are alone and have no contact with anyone there are much better way to help. killing yourself is like playing a board game and throwing the board across the room because you can't win. You may have ended the game but the other may not have wanted it to end.

 

[james_in_time]

Suicide... I had a whole lot written but i erased all of it because i didnt want to give any one any ideas or anything. If you hear of me commiting suicide trust me it was thought out and not irrational. I wouldnt want you to be sad, but glad because i would know the truth, but i wouldnt worry about that too much

 

[t.A.T.u97]

Like Niecy Nash from Reno 911 said (The sassy black lady)

"If you kill yoself, you goin to hell. But if someone else kill you, you have a fifty-fifty chance"