What is Better?

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What would be better?

Guided Arrow Psn Assassin?

20 Venom
20 BoS

Rest in whatever...

Or

Guided Arrow Pali

Max Fanat....

This can also be a zeal or something pali =] What do you guys think? I plan on dueling with one of these... it will be unexpected.:rollie
 

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Wow..I never thought of the asn build..cool idea lol..
 

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Originally posted by VORTECH
What would be better?

Guided Arrow Psn Assassin?

20 Venom
20 BoS

Rest in whatever...

Or

Guided Arrow Pali

Max Fanat....

This can also be a zeal or something pali =] What do you guys think? I plan on dueling with one of these... it will be unexpected.:rollie
Hmmmm you ever consider a guided arrow zon?

But of the two, the sin build would win
 

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Re: Re: What is Better?

Originally posted by Guru
Hmmmm you ever consider a guided arrow zon?

But of the two, the sin build would win
lol no not a zon, because when i duel i want it to be unexpecting get them by surprice:D
 
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Well then..the Assassin Build would win by far, but it would take really good gear to be very effective.
 

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Originally posted by Kitty-Cat Camel-Pack
Well then..the Assassin Build would win by far, but it would take really good gear to be very effective.
Suggestions would be welcomed:dance
 
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Well, seeing as how none of us have ever thought of a build like that, uhh...here's what I think I would try to do.

Keep in mind, this is not a guideline. I'm bullshitting all of this.

I will use CLVL 80 for this build, so all my stats will be revolving around what a level 80 would have with all skill and stat point quests done.

Assassins need 125% IAS to reach the 2.7 FPA with a Ward Bow.
Assassins need 45% FCR to reach the 12 FPC breakpoint.

Strength: 20
Dexterity: 20
Vitality: 20
Energy: 25

Hit Points: 50
Stamina: 95
Mana: 25

Life +2
Stamina +1
Mana +1.5

Armor:
3 Socket Mage Plate 'Enigma'
Required Strength: 55
Weight Penalty: Light

Weapon:
Widowmaker 'Lo'
Ward Bow
Required Strength: 72
Required Dexterity: 146

Base Weapon Speed: [0]
+150-200% Enhanced Damage (varies)
Ignore Target's Defense
33% Deadly Strike
+3-5 To Guided Arrow (varies)
Fires Magic Arrows [Level 11]

Helm:
Andariels Visage 'Ral'
Required Strength: 102
Reason: IAS + Leech = Awesome helm.

Belt:
Arachnid Mesh
Required Strength: 50
Reason: 20% FCR

Gloves:
Magefist
Reason: 20% FCR

Boots:
War Travelers
Required Strength: 95
Reason: Life and Damage (much needed)

Ring 1:
Bul-Katho's
Reason: Good Leech, and has +1 which helps on Guided + Tele.

Ring 2:
Rare 10% FCR / ML / LL / Resists
Reason: 10% FCR for the FCR Breakpoint, and possibly good mods.

Amulet:
Highlords Wrath

Weapon 2: Call to Arms
Shield 2: Lidless or Splendor

Inventory:
Max Damage Charms
At least 5 +1 Shadow Discipline Charms (for Damage)

Strength Required for all gear: 55
Stat points used on Strength: 35

Dexterity Required for all gear: 146
Stat points used on Dexterity: 126

I suggest at least 20 or so into Energy, because you will be teleporting quite a few times to avoid damage.

Stat points used on Energy: 20

Everything else into Vitality

Skills:
Seeing as how you won't be using a skill from your tree's to attack, and you only need 125% IAS to reach the Last BP, and Andariels gives 20%, you need 105% from Burst of Speed, with skills, of course. Unfortunately at level 20, Burst of Speed only gives 52% IAS.

Assuming you will have a total of +5 to all skills and a total of +10 to Shadow Disciplines, you will need to max the following.

Burst of Speed

Burst of Speed
increases attack and movement speed
for a period of time

Current Skill Level: 35
Attack Speed: +56 percent
Walk/Run Speed: +66 percent
Duration: 528 seconds
Mana Cost: 10



Venom

Venom
add poison damage to your weapons

Current Skill Level: 35
Poison Damage: 900-920 over 0.4 seconds
Duration: 256 seconds
Mana Cost: 12


Shadow Master

Shadow Master
summon a powerful shadow of yourself
to fight by your side

Current Skill Level: 35
Life: 2293
Attack: +1400
Resist All: +75 percent
Mana Cost: 52


Total Skill Points used: 66. The rest can be invested in a trap or something along those lines.

In conclusion, we have:
Points into Strength: 35
Points into Dexterity: 126
Points into Energy: 20
Points into Vitality: 229

20 Venom
20 Burst of Speed
20 Shadow Master
+ Pre-Reqs

Guided Arrow Cost (assuming a +5 Widowmaker): 5.7

Tactics with this build would pretty much to have Teleport on Right, Guided on left. Tele away, shoot guided, hope it hits and does damage. With this build, you can have a low Strength Requirement, saving many points for vitality.

I hope that helps some. Welcome to comments/suggestions.
 

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Kitty-Cat Camel-Pack,

Damn, lol expected quick gear suggestion wow. Thanks. Umm lol did i mention i was Hcl =] btw I think i got most of that gear.
Your post should be stickied or made into a guide or something its VERY detailed.
 
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If you're HC, uh...well damn. Then you're kind of ****ed PvM wise. Get a point or two in Death Sentry, it'll help. And a Defiance Merc.
 

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1) With only 5 points into Burst of speed (which can be leaved at 1 skill point base), you need only 30% ias from gear to catch the last BP using widowmaker. So you can save skill points to make a good hybrid-sin with bows + lightning traps, if you want. And to be very effective, you have to use mind blast; despite of what is written in the sticky, mind blast stuns players in pvp in 1.10.

2) I prefer Breast plate for enigma; about 200 points more make no difference in pvp... and you have no shield. You can leave str base, and put some more points into vita.

3) Imho Bul kathos ring sucks. Leech on it is totally pointless, and if you use a Ravenfrost you have +20 dex (=+60 life, more than Bul's one) and more mana to teleport. And the Cannot be frozen mod is crucial, cuz you will be attacking with a bow, and if you are frozen, your speed will be reduced. And this doesn't have to happen.

4) Since you don't need the added IAS from Andariel's visage, it would be wiser to use a vampire gaze with an ed / ias jewel. You will catch your last bp, cuz you will have 20 ias from highlords and 15 from the jewel in gaze.

5) Usually, in pvp "serious" games, items with "slow target" are considered lamer, so arachnid mesh could be replaced from a perfect verdungos' or a perfect string of ears.

6) Last thing: imho it's better to use tons of small charms with life or max / ar / life than shadow skiller GC's. Poison damage of your attacks can be easily lowered wearing resist poison items; phisical damage reduction is capped @ 50%, so having more physical damage is better than having more poison damage.


Oh, I forgot: are you sure that faster cast rate is useful for this build?
 

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Originally posted by VORTECH
Kitty-Cat Camel-Pack,

Damn, lol expected quick gear suggestion wow. Thanks. Umm lol did i mention i was Hcl =] btw I think i got most of that gear.
Your post should be stickied or made into a guide or something its VERY detailed.
Yea, the only problem with his guide is that it sucks

btw, ever consider making a ga sorc? was just thinking about it..
 

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FCR = No use to an asn @ Kao. :rolleyes
 

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Originally posted by Guru
Yea, the only problem with his guide is that it sucks

btw, ever consider making a ga sorc? was just thinking about it..

Ya but its most likely that people are more imune to fire then to psn. As far as the guide goes, it dosent suck.. maybe there are mistakes but at least he tryed. ;)
 

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75% posion length reduction + max posion resist = you're own.

Atleast on a sorc you will be hard to catch, and will have two elements of attack + the phys damage (if there is any..).

But hey, you're choice
 

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use bramble ^^

ive seen these kinds of asns b4... minimal life leech form what i can tell, but will:
shako, maras, bramble, and etc. inv full of shadow cahrms o_O
 

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Ya upping Venom is better done with +skills.
 

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