What do you think about Anachry?

[HotOpa]

I think Anachry would be great. No one who takes your rights, you make your onw rules...
but it wouldn't work, because there is always someone who would destroy it.

 

[shrimpshark]

uhhh its a lil hard to destroy anachy but some would unite to conquor others if thats what u mean its a nice consept but obsolete in modern times

 

[Iliaran]

From an economic perspective, anarchy just wouldnt work. For starters, who would build street-lights, who would pay for my grandmother's social benefits? In a nutshell, public goods would simply cease to exist since there's no incentive to produce them. Anarchy will most likely result in the deterioration of infrastructure in an economy (since nobody's going to build roads, hospitals (public ones at least), etc...)...so everyone losses out.

 

[shrimpshark]

uhh..... in anarchy their are no econimies b/c anarchy is complete chaos, so their would be no econimy nor governments.

 

[CelestialBadger]

My opinion on anarchy is that most anarchists are stupid little uneducated punks (I'm not using punk the right way, but whatever). I'm not, of course, trying to discredit the idea of civil disobedience which can be a useful tool in modern politics. But...

...you think it would be great "HotOpa"? How old are you? I'm guessing 13 (scientists have concluded that all 13 year olds are morons). Yeah, wouldn't life be great if we didn't have public schools? In fact, burn the ****ing schools. That's what anarchy's about right? The Anarchist's Cookbook? Yeah, molotovs are cool. Blow up shit, haha, what fun. I saw a kid awhile back wearing a mass-produced t-shirt with the anarchy sign on. Real cool, you know, since anarchists are capitalists. I've heard kids talking about how anarchical they are for shoplifting shit. Yeah, cool. Materialism. Kickass.

Okay, I'm done. I hope that made my views on the matter relatively clear. If it didn't, it's probably because you're 13.

 

[Iliaran]

Originally posted by CelestialBadger
My opinion on anarchy is that most anarchists are stupid little uneducated punks (I'm not using punk the right way, but whatever). I'm not, of course, trying to discredit the idea of civil disobedience which can be a useful tool in modern politics. But...

...you think it would be great "HotOpa"? How old are you? I'm guessing 13 (scientists have concluded that all 13 year olds are morons). Yeah, wouldn't life be great if we didn't have public schools? In fact, burn the ****ing schools. That's what anarchy's about right? The Anarchist's Cookbook? Yeah, molotovs are cool. Blow up shit, haha, what fun. I saw a kid awhile back wearing a mass-produced t-shirt with the anarchy sign on. Real cool, you know, since anarchists are capitalists. I've heard kids talking about how anarchical they are for shoplifting shit. Yeah, cool. Materialism. Kickass.

Okay, I'm done. I hope that made my views on the matter relatively clear. If it didn't, it's probably because you're 13.

Anarchy to burning schools to molotov coktails to shoplifting? Oh my...and i always thought that anarchy was just a situation of lawlessness...silly me...

Contrary to popular belief, there is no real correlation between anarchy and violence...just think of all the tribes in africa (well...most of africa, dont bring Sudan into this) living in peaceful coexistence.

That aside, I sorta do agree with you

...and HotOpa,

Originally posted by HotOpa
No one who takes your rights

What rights? In a situation without a governing body to come up wtih rules and stuff...who's to decide whats rightfully yours and whats not?

 

[HotOpa]

@badger: i'm 15. and no i don't want to burn all schools down. it's just you HAVE to go to school. and then somebody says we are free people? i don't know if this is right...

@Iliaran: yes, in an anarchy you don't have determined (?) rights. but i give you an example what i wanted to say:

your family lives on an island since, let's say 10 generations. No one's on that island exept your family and you've built lots of fields for farming there and things like that. Now someday some guy comes with a paper which is signed by the gouvernment which says that the island now belongs to him.
in a Democracy you would lough about him, he would go to the police and they would banish you from your island.
in an anarchy you would lough about him and say piss off. maybe he could try to take the island over by usinf violence but you could just kill him, throw him into the sea and no one cares.

that's the original idea of anarchy, but yes it would break out to a choas, but if this choas wouldn't exsit, what's wrong with anachy?

 

[Iliaran]

what's wrong with anachy?

Did you even read my first post? Anarachy simply wouldnt work. There wouldnt be any roads, streetlights, etc... Infrastructure just simply wouldnt exist (well...save for 'private' roads and stuff).

Your hypothetical situation:
You've just proven CelestialBadger's right about you by relating anarchy to violence.

and then somebody says we are free people

nope...you're 15, your not free yet, wait till you're of legal age...then you can run around screaming "im free! im free!"...and when you're of legal age...you're only free until your freedom infringes on someone else's constitutional rights.

i don't know if this is right...

Ah...something we can agree on...you don't know.

 

[B)ushid(o]

Anarchy... hmmm... instead of having a semi-decent government, a bunch of mafias, gangs, etc. would rule us without any laws restricting what they can do. Yeah, great society.

 

[jd-inflames]

Anarchy is the most moronic idea in the world...without any form of rule or structure, civilization would eventually collapse and we would be right back to where we started, making wheels out of rocks.

And HotOpa, learning how to type would help us a lot when we are trying to debate something with you...your point's, valid or not, look like this to me:

plakjd;lajb;lakj

 

[Thistle]

Okay I dont mean to spam but what are we trying to discuss here? that anarchy wont work? thats pretty obvious. that HotOpa is an idiot? pretty obvious.

and by the way Opa is grandfather in english so he is a hot grandfather.

 

[Arkillo]

In english? Are you sure about that?

 

[CelestialBadger]

Originally posted by Iliaran

Anarchy to burning schools to molotov coktails to shoplifting? Oh my...and i always thought that anarchy was just a situation of lawlessness...silly me...

I'm talking about the general American "omg I drew an 'anachry' sign on my hand11 government sucks, they take my rights away!1" view of anarchy here.

HotOpa: You have a twisted vision of how the world works, just like most other so-called anarchists. If you really want to be an "anarchist" join the Libertarian Party. It's the closest you'll get to anarchy while managing to avoid looking like an idiot.

 

[Steven22]

I like the idea of no government but, truley, everything would just collapse before our eyes, socially, economically, culturally, etc. Besides if we had anarchy, I would have nothing to rebel against!

 

[jd-inflames]

Rebelling gets you no where. Just hop back on that band-wagon, go to college, get a job...cause thats the only way you will survive. These kids are going to get used to it soon...

 

[Steven22]

Originally posted by jd-inflames
Rebelling gets you no where. Just hop back on that band-wagon, go to college, get a job...cause thats the only way you will survive.

I have a job... about to start college Aug. 25... I am on the band-wagon!
Just something I do for fun if you didn't understand the joke in my post.

 

[Gedrin]

To approximately quote my last history teacher and my best history teacher, "The only way to be a true anarchist is to climb to the top of a clocktower and shoot someone, or go live naked in the forest."

To be a true anarchist within this society would be impossible because of the laws that are in place right now.

Anyway although the little anarchist wannnabes are annoying that's no reason to throw a hissy fit ever time someone mentions anarchists.

In fact a discussion on the origins of anarchism, and its rise and fall in popularity in europe would be very interesting here.

Unfortunately I haven't the time right now to go get some books on the subject.

 

[¥ôÜ §úçK]

Originally posted by CelestialBadger
My opinion on anarchy is that most anarchists are stupid little uneducated punks (I'm not using punk the right way, but whatever). I'm not, of course, trying to discredit the idea of civil disobedience which can be a useful tool in modern politics. But...

...you think it would be great "HotOpa"? How old are you? I'm guessing 13 (scientists have concluded that all 13 year olds are morons). Yeah, wouldn't life be great if we didn't have public schools? In fact, burn the ****ing schools. That's what anarchy's about right? The Anarchist's Cookbook? Yeah, molotovs are cool. Blow up shit, haha, what fun. I saw a kid awhile back wearing a mass-produced t-shirt with the anarchy sign on. Real cool, you know, since anarchists are capitalists. I've heard kids talking about how anarchical they are for shoplifting shit. Yeah, cool. Materialism. Kickass.

Okay, I'm done. I hope that made my views on the matter relatively clear. If it didn't, it's probably because you're 13.

id like you to know that im 13 but i dont believe im a moron... i cant sometimes act like on but you just did too by saying that all 13 year olds are morons which is like saying all black people are gangsters and shoot people



and on topic i thik that it wouldnt work but i also think we have too many laws that are stupid and feel constricting witch makes you think anarchy would be great

@hotopa i think if you put more thought into it you would relise(sp)<---brainfart)that it wouldnt work and it it actually happended you wouldnt be happy

 

[Static]

you want anarchy go live in Iraq with Saddam as the leader. Just bask in the glory of shit homes and violence outside the doors. But whatever you do don't forget your bondage pants, God knows what would happen if you don't tell other people your on their side.

 

[Kuzmich]

Anarchy is bad even in thory. No culture, no civilization, you have to drink and eat things you make yourselve, you have no property. It would be a very unhappy world.