Tier 3

[Samsara]

usually by the time im at tier 3 i get owned by a huge bigass unit (chims, upg. mg, tauren, abominations, frostwyrms) and i find that as much as i get knights and griffins, they just cant compete. My goal originally is to get them to be in a position where they cant get to tier3 without completly ruining their economy or army size. But the moment i see the first wyrm in the air its gg for me.

What is it that i should get tier 3, im currently getting 4-6 knights, 3 of each caster and 4 spell breakers(master status and control magic), rest into riflemen. Depending on if i see air units i get hawks or tanks.

 

[QuikSilver]

They key in this game is spying on ur enemy...keep spying on him...and eventually you can counter his army. Say if the enemy gets tauren in tier 3... for sure just get gryphs. btw you should be planning to get gryphs if you dont see any AA by orcs by tier 2.

 

[Theroy]

If you need some help spying on your enemy

http://www.battleforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=53125

j/k

 

[None293823]

Hehe Theroy lol,besides what Forged has linked i saw the skills of nevergoingback to flame and spam ,which is the very point of the thread..
well phucker, tier3 is good if the other doesnt have tier 3 but you can own at tier2 too. Dont let them make tier3, orc, NE (except giants), have the best units at tier3 and casters are excellent for tier2 to own

 

[Samsara]

Im considering adding mortars into the fray instead of some rifles just so i can hurt their base faster. any thoughts?

 

[QuikSilver]

yeah ofcourse theyll knock down the casers...maybe focus on the shamans to get rid of their purge spell which can be useful against polymorph and slow and stuff...btw lol i dont think u can hurt their base because it doesnt really have a nervous system...But i really think you can damage it!!

and btw i didnt get the joke....but i went to the thread and i found a link to a file about switching warcraft versions.... i downloaded it but i dont know how to use it... it doesnt have a readme file......lol

 

[Andrew]

knights and gryphons, maybe mortars and casters

 

[None293823]

Originally posted by quiksilver87
yeah ofcourse theyll knock down the casers...maybe focus on the shamans to get rid of their purge spell which can be useful against polymorph and slow and stuff...btw lol i dont think u can hurt their base because it doesnt really have a nervous system...But i really think you can damage it!!

You always need spekkbreakers vs orc so you can get all the buffs like purge and bloodlust.Thats all and that will give you 80% success to the battle

 

[Torubu]

Originally posted by noob_phucker
usually by the time im at tier 3 i get owned by a huge bigass unit (chims, upg. mg, tauren, abominations, frostwyrms) and i find that as much as i get knights and griffins, they just cant compete. My goal originally is to get them to be in a position where they cant get to tier3 without completly ruining their economy or army size. But the moment i see the first wyrm in the air its gg for me.

What is it that i should get tier 3, im currently getting 4-6 knights, 3 of each caster and 4 spell breakers(master status and control magic), rest into riflemen. Depending on if i see air units i get hawks or tanks.

DHawks vs Chim/Wyrm (Aerial Shackles)
Gryphon vs Tauren/Abom/MG. (Magic Damage vs. Heavy Armor)

 

[Ntrik_]

^ eh hem.. mg doesnt have heavy, rather medium armor...

anyways, why dont jus rush in tier 2? (dhawks and priest and rifles and spell breakers)

Also, have some spell breakers for regeneration, tho dyrads might abolish it, it still raises ur HP.. alot and takes DotC's mana away.

Also, for MG, use knights (yes, they do about 30 dmg to MG... which is pretty big) and do innerfire on them...

 

[QuikSilver]

I freakin hate MG they are soo annoying....especially when the NE army has 3-4 of them!!! All you will be shooting at is them!! And are flying machines a good counter against faerie dragons?

 

[Ntrik_]

i prefer dhawks mixed with them.

 

[AJ007]

how bout we all just screw tier 3 over >_< i would harass in tier 1 then go to tier 2 get sorcs, rifle, xpansion while harassin. seems to work for me ^_^

 

[None293823]

Originally posted by quiksilver87
I freakin hate MG they are soo annoying....especially when the NE army has 3-4 of them!!! All you will be shooting at is them!! And are flying machines a good counter against faerie dragons?

In general yes they have greater damage and can own them but having in mind that with faeries are archers, hyppos,dryads not.Actually to use machines, a player shouldnt have any air \aa at all and you should upgrade the bombs and still it sucks.How can you even think of using this

 

[Ntrik_]

^^ why not?

anyways, IMO humans' heros are bad in harassing, i mean it jus dont work! Try BM harass woo, flame strike and get entangled to die, MK? Storm bolt dont work on building anymore... Pally? hmm.... hit and run then divine shield b4 dying? Surrounded for 15 seconds and die? AM? hmm most effective so far, WE and kill some workers then leave... hmm...

So why not add in footies? they do 13 dmg... pretty much same as militia, not relaly helpful, by the time u get rifle man, enemy prob will have good defence to block things off.

 

[QuikSilver]

i dunno i figured if the guy had a few of the faeries...i thought why not use flying machines to take em out!! Well yeah ur totally right!! i dont even know why i even thought of that!! They will fall like flies because they willl be the first to be focused on!

 

[None293823]

Originally posted by N_LeGeNd)
^^ why not?

anyways, IMO humans' heros are bad in harassing, i mean it jus dont work! Try BM harass woo, flame strike and get entangled to die, MK? Storm bolt dont work on building anymore... Pally? hmm.... hit and run then divine shield b4 dying? Surrounded for 15 seconds and die? AM? hmm most effective so far, WE and kill some workers then leave... hmm...

So why not add in footies? they do 13 dmg... pretty much same as militia, not relaly helpful, by the time u get rifle man, enemy prob will have good defence to block things off.

You know all of you know i mentioned several times-i use BM.Well i no longer have something that i use for all and everything.I just feel what hero should fit the opponent and thats all.
Harass- sometimes to bliz peasants and sometimes not.I prefer elementals and when another AM casts bliz when i have MK good luck aways with his MK

 

[QuikSilver]

The AM can be used with his WE and a few foots at the start to kill a few or several wisps at the start of the game!

 

[None293823]

To direct you back on the topic...

I saw once that a Human can own having tier3 with tanks.You just attack some of the other units away from his base and at this time he entered with 7 tanks and owned half of the base retreated them and later again he finished with the other buildings.

 

[QuikSilver]

wow but the his other army was probably week as hell....i should try that sometime....pretty cool...i think it will only work in 4 or higher player maps btw..