This week in Sony (PS3)

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Let's start off with the Playstation 3.

According to economic firm Wedbush Morgan Securities, Sony could delay the release of their next-generation PlayStation 3 console until 2007, if the right circumstances fall their way.
Why you ask? Apparently Sony is confident enough that if the 360 completely bombs they want to ride the success of PS2 for as long as possible. What does this mean? Sony is a heartless greedy corporation that wants more money. Yet they truely all are.
Sony plans to drop the PS2 price to 99$, hoping to attract a low cost consumer away from the 360. Of course if 360 tanks (which i think it won't) they can ride thier success for another year and throw in PS3 making alot more money then just releaseing PS3 in 2006.

Whats more is the Playstation 3 (while backwrds compatable wit the playstation 2) Will not be compatable with any original Playstation peripherals. Including and form of controler, or dance mats. What is even more is that Memory cards for the palystation and PS2 will not be compatable with the PS3. Only the PSP memory stick duo will be available to be used on the PS3.
Interesting enough, despite the hard drive, consumers buying a PS3 will have to buy a memory stick, because the harddrive will not be used to store any game data.

PS3 also has lost the ability for Lan support. Oddly enough, something Xbox Lan players loved will not be available for the PS3. Sony has scrapped it, meaning there will be no Lans for PS3 users.

"…the PS3 can't be offered at a price that's targeted towards households."
So yeah, who the hell are they targeting? Xbox 360 price is already low compared to the cost to produce the system. This is becuase they are going to drive game prices up and make alot of money through peripherals, and online. What the hell is sony doing? Your going to need to get a second job according to the President of the company that says this is a system that won't be cheap

As many know doubt is aware Square enix (Makers of final Fantasy, etc.) is no longer exclusive to the Playstation. While during the late 90s, when square jumped from Nintendo to sony, Playstation had 3 FF games and many other spin-offs, and Playstation 2 has had several more. But now Square in the past few years has made games for the Gameboy, and the Gamecube.
What's this next generation bring? Final Fantasy XI is being ported to the 360, several games will be published for the DS and Revolution. What the hell is sony doing in this time? To busy thinking how much money they can make off the "too rich to shop at walmart" crowd of people.
Also a few weeks ago, game designer for Metal Gear solid has stated that they will make it for PS3, but like Square, said there is little doubt they will bring Metal gear games to either Revolution and 360.

Is it the fact that sony has led the last two generations that it has become over confident? So far all we know about the PS3 is it is expensive, might be here in 2007, won't be compatible with past generations (besides games) lost LAN support, and is slowly losing game designers. Is Sony going to go the way of Nintnedo and slip from the top after two successful generations of dominance? It is pure speculation but you gotta admit, Sony isn't doing so hot right now.
 

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o_O; My. Even I find that disappointing... Admitedly :p I was, and still am, going to wait for the PS3 to go into second-generation production and a price drop before buying it, but this'll make hopes of that cast out long. Of course :ninja: it might also mean that I get the final chapter of Xenosage on my PS2 and not have to wait forever for the PS3.

In anycase... Yeah. Sony's really not having a good 2005 >_<; They got slammed by the Japanese IRS. They are suffering a "lower-than-expected" sales for the PSP. This is just going to make their shares less marketable. SquarEnix was their major "Haha! We rule you!" factor, but they are starting to "side" more and more with Nintendo with the sucess they saw in Crystal Chronicles and rave reviews fans gave with "if it went online" -- which will be seen with the DS.

Sony's fiscal earnings might see a drop, and I'm fairly sure that marketability of the Sony name will decrease. I'm begining to wonder... "What are they thinking?"
 

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Apparently Playstation also saw a drop in profit for thier software and hardware in the past few months. This coupled with last years PS2 slim fiasco, Sony doesnt want any PS3 shortages so even then PS3 might not be available so early in 2006 even if 360 does good.
 
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Its all just drama for the time being, i can almost guarantee it will blow over and Sony will pwn the competition AGAIN
 

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I read that Nvidia's Cheif said that the way the chipset is going to be, that PS3 will be nowhere near the $299 mark, far above it in fact. What I am curious about is, how far, exactly? $500 is too much for a video game system, the effer better bake cookies and serve sodas at that price. And I find it really interresting that alot of the companies that were loyal to Sony are now breaking away to go to the other systems. Yes, this is poor planning I think.
 

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yea playstation 3 is so much better then xbox 360 playstation has better games comeing out for i like mgs4 final fantasy 12 i guess but ive seen something about it comeing out on playstation 2 and tekken 6 baby !
 

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:rolleyes The PS2, contrary to popular belief, is not "pwn"ing anything. It isn't "whooping" the GameCube, as sites like IGN would have you believe. It is outselling it, yes, but there is a much slimmer margin than you seem to think there is.

This could all well be drama, but, the fact remains, Sony's hurting where it hurts the most, the market. Fiscal earnings are down and dropping. The Sony brand doesn't mean as much as it used to. Sony will recover, at least I hope so.

I thought Sony was aiming for $399.99 o_O When did you hear about $299? There's no way Sony can aim for that. A $300 loss per system they sell? Even Sony would be pushing up daisies.

In anycase... Sony is having a bit of trouble planning. When it was announced that "exclusive control" over a third-party developer was illegal (Japanese laws?), SquarEnix said, "Hey Nintendo! We appologize if you do. Nintendo was more than happy to reply, "Anytime, buds! Anytime." This being after Enix's cheif-of-sales said that they would only cater to the largest market holder in the console race. Square's executives ended up getting say, however, as SquarEnix split their production line.

Sony's got no first-party development (at least none to write home about), and third-parties are becoming more and more disgruntled. It's becoming increasingly expensive to produce games for Sony's "masterpiece" sytems (*cough*SegaDreamcast*cough*). The formats Sony uses are exclusive to their systems, and they often sue third-parties who try to make peripherals to support said consoles. Sony wants only Sony-namebrand peripherals, and that's going to just plain hurt them in the long run.

Sony continues to jack-up the price of their products. I do hope they see the err in this. A gaming console is just that. It's for games. They started the "Computer Entertainment System" which has proven both a boon and a bane. I surely doubt the 360 will flop. It might not do overly well, but there are enough X-Box fanatics out there to drive sales of that particular $399.99 system.

>_<

In conclusion: Sony :gonk: What are you doing? What are you thinking?!
 

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Hideo Kojima already said he wouldn't mind porting his MGS games to other systems (and actually he wants to create different games for each system), and Square is in that boat too with the FF series, so that doesn't really mean much.
 

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Krikkit said:
Hideo Kojima already said he wouldn't mind porting his MGS games to other systems (and actually he wants to create different games for each system), and Square is in that boat too with the FF series, so that doesn't really mean much.
It means sony no longer has exclusive deals. Taht is why people buy the Playstation, becuase of the final fantasy, because of the Metal Gear. I own only 2 games for PS2 and that is Metal gear 2 and metal gear 3. If it is getting ported to the 360, there i no need to get a PS3.
 

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gamecube is for little kids i have an xbox its ok but i love my playstation 2 what happend to 007 golden eye that and super mario bros is the only thing i liked from nintendo i dont like its newer stuff
 

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bbags said:
gamecube is for little kids i have an xbox its ok but i love my playstation 2 what happend to 007 golden eye that and super mario bros is the only thing i liked from nintendo i dont like its newer stuff

^_^ Reported! That is flaming, my friend. I do hate fanboyism.
 

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Oh, lighten up bam; you and your fanboy-o-meter. Any reading above .002 and you hit people with warnings. Eh, well...nevermind, I didn't say anything, what he said was kinda...stupid...and thrown together.
 

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:p That one read closer to .870

*shrug* What can I say? I'm 23 and would like an intelligent discussion about what this news means to said company. Nintendo has been brought into this discussion because Nintendo and Sony consider each other compeditors and completely forget about Microsoft (which both are annihilating in worldwide total sales).

.002, huh? Hmm? I might have to recalibrate back to .001... :ninja:

In anycase, my opinion is fanboyism = flaming. Flaming isn't allowed now is it ;) ?



In anycase, we'll see how Sony recovers from this'n' XD
 

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:/ This isn't the Asylum, so...

Flaming = NOT ALLOWED



The only real way this could blow over (in Sony's favor anyway) is if this is just some false rumor. Fans certainly won't take too kindly to this news (ala Europe/PSP issue) if it is deemed true. Sony can easily pull through, regardless. This isn't nearly as big a sting as 4.8mill in back-taxes...or the possibility of Take Two going. Combined, all this could pose a problem.

My hopes:

PS3 isn't delayed. It'll postpone my ability to buy it.
Sony's stocks go back up. We can't be losing too much faith in the namesake ;)
Sony stops PROPRIATIZING so much. Seriously. It's only been proving to hurt them.



You'll note the order, too ;) Propriatation is the least of anybody's concerns. A late release of the PS3 means either (a) developers have more time to produce games to a brand-spanking new format or (b) developers drop Sony like a bad habit. I truely hope the later doesn't happen because the former would give us all better games. Then again, I'd rather an "ontime" release ;)
 

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i dont think sony will have a problem dealing with the 360 or the revolution. the ps3 out preforms the 360 and the revolution, if they keep the reg psone and the ps2 controler and not the boomerang controler they had at e3 it should do fine. since the xbox controler is big it has turned down lots of buyers so if they keep up with the controler scheme good news for ps3. also developers will relise how much power the ps3 has and thus the ps3 will have a fabulous line up of games. it would be much like when the xbox was released it got all the top games that won all the awards becasue it was much more powerful then the ps2 and the gamecube. the only thing sony will have to worry about is the price. and sony has alrdy talked about putting a lower cost hard drive(i think that was the part not sure ill check when i get home) and having u buy it serperatly which will reduce the ps3 by $100.00. which is a big plus. also the controller is nasty but i havnt gotten my hands on it so i wouldnt no if it feels good or not. and then the lettering on the ps3 =P. spiderman font needs to go. so i beleive sony will once agian be the greatest and begin the march back up to the top of game sells. or atleast i hope they do. i wouldnt mind paying $550.00(tax included) for the ps3 and its insane graphics and game line up.
 

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spikeman488 said:
the ps3 out preforms...the revolution.
Eh, you don't know that. Nearly nothing official has been released about Revolutions system specs.

When will people stop thinking that just because a system has better graphics that it's superior over the others. PS2 did good becuase it had good games. Xbox didn't really dominate it that much.

More raw power doesn't always mean superiority in all fields. This means that developers will have to spend more time on the look of a game, and more money. I'm afriad that Gameplay might take a hit this time around more then it did last generation.
 

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Nes, Snes, PSX, and the PS2 has dominated thier respective eras, and they have been some of the worst technical specs in comparison.

Gamecube and Xbox outperform the PS22, but the PS2 was on top because of game and fans. Revolution is in it's first few years getting some big hitters (Smash bros, metroid prime, a new zelda).
 

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Krikkit said:
When will people stop thinking that just because a system has better graphics that it's superior over the others. PS2 did good becuase it had good games. Xbox didn't really dominate it that much.

More raw power doesn't always mean superiority in all fields. This means that developers will have to spend more time on the look of a game, and more money. I'm afriad that Gameplay might take a hit this time around more then it did last eneration.
I´m agree with that.. in some ways people makes the publicy. I mean if some1 start to say "nah the PS2 have a lot of more graphics" "the ps2 is better" "the ps2 is better" people believe it. I believe that the PS2 is better not by the graphics, it is by the games some 1s are just alsomes (not alls but..most of them :lovedup ) Just hope that the PS3 comes w. new superior games that we all expect.. and taht the sagas conitinues... :grunt
 

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Krikkit said:
When will people stop thinking that just because a system has better graphics that it's superior over the others. PS2 did good becuase it had good games. Xbox didn't really dominate it that much.

More raw power doesn't always mean superiority in all fields. This means that developers will have to spend more time on the look of a game, and more money. I'm afriad that Gameplay might take a hit this time around more then it did last generation.
one reason the xbox didnt dominate that much is because it was the first time microsoft had a system come out. and if u look at the past most developers wont make games for systems they dont trust. and raw power has a big stance on developers. they want to make beautiful and fabalous games with graphics to match. if a system doesnt have it they most likely wont put time and effort into that system over a system that they know has the capability to produce the best game quality possible. cause it all comes down to money. and alrdy ps3 has some big hitters with them this time around. unreal tournament is going onto the ps3 so is need for speed and devil may cry 4, killzone 2, tekken 6, mgs:4, fight night, soul caliber 3, warhammer and a few others.

but u r partially right about power not being everything i dont agree with the most powerful system not gettignt he most games. the part i do agree with u is that more power doesnt mean superiority. since most ppl like online play now. the 360 will most likely have a domination on that. with there xbox live being so succesful with the first xbox. so i believe that is the major threate to the ps3 considering xbox. and yes i no that it hasnt been proven that the revolution is worse or better then the ps3 since all three of them r mainly prototypes but so far with the information released it doesnt look to good for the revolution and unless they have an awesome cooling system then i belive with the size of there machine it will most likely overheat just like the new small ps2.
 

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