Teh Wors Ultimate!!!

[NeverGoingBack]

Dark Rangers charm now that I think about it is the worst ultimate in the game, far worse then any UD ultimate even.

This thing needs to be relooked at, possesing one unit every once in a while will never put the odds in your favor, and posessing a peon this late in the game in unthinkable. yes her other spells are awesome, and have great uses, but the ultimate is nothing since UD can use this spell anytime they please at tier 3.

I think a good change to charm would be to give it AOE, and cap it off about 3 units per turn, also giving it a longer cooldown, then there maybe some use for the spell, so late in the game.

 

[Emperor Pan I]

Originally posted by NeverGoingBack
Dark Rangers charm now that I think about it is the worst ultimate in the game, far worse then any UD ultimate even.

This thing needs to be relooked at, possesing one unit every once in a while will never put the odds in your favor, and posessing a peon this late in the game in unthinkable. yes her other spells are awesome, and have great uses, but the ultimate is nothing since UD can use this spell anytime they please at tier 3.

I think a good change to charm would be to give it AOE, and cap it off about 3 units per turn, also giving it a longer cooldown, then there maybe some use for the spell, so late in the game.

first off, charm is far from being the worst ultiatme. It is a 150 mana, 45 second cooldown spell. you can take any unit, even destroyers and dryads, and air units. possess u may take ground non hero, non magic immune units.

and when we compare the banshee and DR as u have with the "same skill", Banshee have a lot more difficuties associated with casting possess. First off it takes 4 seconds, and any damage delt in that time is multiplied by 166%. DR has no casting time.

As long as we compare banshees lets take a look.

possess mana cost=250
charm mana cost=150

amount of uses for possess=1
amaount of uses for charm=unlimited

possess casting time=4
charm casting time=0

possess casting range=35
charm casting range=45

animate dead is far worse. animate dead creates 6 units from the already dead that blow up in 40 seconds. the length of animate dead, is almsot the same length as charm. meaning u can use the ultiatme twice, between the time the DK begins and finishes using his ultimate.

 

[NeverGoingBack]

your telling me you would rather have one charmed unit that will die instantly in battle and will feed more exp than 6 ivinceable units in that... I think not.

it has no use in a real battle situation since battle only about 45 seconds giving only one possesed unit, and she will most likely be dead after that lol.

banshees, use one banshee in a battle to do the same effect, and the enemy will not even notice she was there.

really its like giving one of the crapiest spell in the game to a hero as thier ulitmate... comon.

 

[VBadGirl]

i think panda has the worst ultimate. its too hard to make 3 new groups and manage him fully effective while in ultimate.

 

[eat_ma_shorts]

lol
charm is prolly one of the most useful spells in the game
i think that the moutan king has the worst ultimate just anothr version of metamorphosis only worst<-- im probably worng

 

[Silynt Rage]

I Think starfall and Doom are the worst ultimates.. the Pit lord I never see in battle for one... and even if it is in battle... I've never see it cast it's ultimate. So wether the ultimate is good or not is really out of the question... cuz it never happens. I think starfall sucks because it can be countered by so much, it's great if you can cast it in the middle of an opposing players base.... but even then it's not like the priestess is magically immune... what's worse is you can't move while casting the ultimate (BORING!)

Charm BTW kicks ass.... those who say Charm sucks haven't had the opportunity of casting the spell. Bring a few mana potions along with your Dark Ranger at level 6.... you'll think differently of Charm.

 

[NeverGoingBack]

i think your full of !@#$ lol, yes ive used charm and it was crap, so useful my ass, you show me one 1v1 replay since tft came out where someone got DR as thier first hero and used charm to take full advantage of the game. k thx

starfall is great.. so much can counter, use invul potion or kill the threat before using it. kthx

MK's ultimate is like meta dh, in some ways better... he gets magic immunity, and his other skills are usefull.

Panda's ultimate still awesome you get immolation, taunt, cyclone, windwalk, manageing him is easy too, just click his profile and all 3 of them go into a subgroup.

Doom can also change the tides of battle... witch would you rather have a charmed tauren, or summon what almost like a level 6 tauren chieftan.

 

[Ntrik_]

You have no idea how many Frosties I took from UD (comp) in a game, it goes over food limit NGB

 

[Theroy]

Charm is okay I personally think Starfall Needs a buff in solo maybe a nerf in FFA games.

Panda's ultimate is like best in game >_<

Doom + Charm makes an awsome combo.

Makes them lose 2 very powerful units and you gain 2 powerful units. Pending if they have powerful units.

 

[Emperor Pan I]

Panda has one of the best ultiatmes, seeing as how you pretty much get reincarnation along with everything else. If you think about it, if u initiate it at battles beginging u get 3 units that can windwalk, immo, cyclone, blah blah. Then even if they are focused, when the time expires u get ur panda back at full health, kinda like a reincarnation, two heros (4 if u couint the 3 forms) during one battle.

 

[NeverGoingBack]

Originally posted by N_
You have no idea how many Frosties I took from UD (comp) in a game, it goes over food limit NGB

key word being comp there right N_, and great now your food is over the max limit and you cant revive her or any other hero if it dies? no thx

I would much rather posses a wisp with banshee at tier 3 and build my own army of opposite race units.

lusted fiends, or gargs with ud aruas, brutal

 

[Beer $lut]

I think the kotg's ultimate sucks, but only because he can be bolted or stunned real quick and his health sucks so hes dead and the the ultimate gets wasted.

 

[Emperor Pan I]

Originally posted by Beer $lut
I think the kotg's ultimate sucks, but only because he can be bolted or stunned real quick and his health sucks so hes dead and the the ultimate gets wasted.

all channeling spells are like that, and if u can keep the KOTG in the back his healing is incredibly useful. It heals insne damage in a short period of time

 

[SoNiC_tHe_IgEl]

i never had an lvl 6+ dr in a ladder game...

I think worse one is earthquake... i mean ... normal fights arent always in a base... or in ur own so its useless ...t.t

U can slow down the enemy but when u slow ithem down u have to be careful cuz when your own units walk in there u are slow too and its much better to make lvl 3 wolves and lvl 3 chainlightning ...

 

[Beer $lut]

Originally posted by SoNiC_tHe_IgEl
i never had an lvl 6+ dr in a ladder game...

I think worse one is earthquake... i mean ... normal fights arent always in a base... or in ur own so its useless ...t.t

U can slow down the enemy but when u slow ithem down u have to be careful cuz when your own units walk in there u are slow too and its much better to make lvl 3 wolves and lvl 3 chainlightning ...

Are you kidding me? Earthquake is awsome. It hurts them bad if you're harrasing their buildings with bats.

 

[M3_feelin_0wn3d]

cyclone (or tornado) sux. i think naga isnt best hero by far becus of her abilities. ice arrow is nice but it is only for hero or very strong unit running trough the level alone (unlikely). lightning doesnt hit enough targets to be good. she hasnt got enuf mana regen. for mana shield because she needs ice arrows and lightning who need mana. and cyclone just plain sux because she cant even MOVE while its cased

 

[Theroy]

Naga is overpowered if you ask me. Don't see a lot of her anymore but she's probably the most used Tavern hero besides the BM. Her lv 6 is pretty bad tho my vote for the worst.

 

[NeverGoingBack]

still effective though. think about mass towers, your getting down to the end of the game and are low on gold both of you have high level heros but armies are unseen. you unleash your other 2 heros ultimates, lets say panda and warden, but the towers and nukes are to much for it.

but whats this you invested a little bit of gold in to a anit-magic potion, and towers are following left and right, while putting enemy heros out of commission at the same time.

charm or silence isnt gonna pull that kinda weight for you, unless you magically find some way to make them work on enemy towers.

 

[Theroy]

Naga has low hp and when it comes down to that situration which dosen't happen often all ultimates are good if you make a situration it's how often it happens that makes it good from the bad. The naga focused down on towers wont live long and that tornadoe dosen't last very long.

 

[Sakuhta]

Originally posted by Silynt Rage
I Think starfall and Doom are the worst ultimates.. the Pit lord I never see in battle for one... and even if it is in battle... I've never see it cast it's ultimate. So wether the ultimate is good or not is really out of the question... cuz it never happens. I think starfall sucks because it can be countered by so much, it's great if you can cast it in the middle of an opposing players base.... but even then it's not like the priestess is magically immune... what's worse is you can't move while casting the ultimate (BORING!)

Charm BTW kicks ass.... those who say Charm sucks haven't had the opportunity of casting the spell. Bring a few mana potions along with your Dark Ranger at level 6.... you'll think differently of Charm.

LAUGH, OUT LOUD.

Charm might be good, but by far starfall and doom both > charm. Starfall does constant good damage to EVERY unit/building in the area. Very great. And doom you could kill a very expensive/powerful unit with it as well as get a very powerful unit.

But if you had the mana with charm you could run to your enemies base and take a unit every 45 seconds. =/ That would be hell for economy.