Society: Some thoughts.

[WildfireFX]

I've been thinking.. (which is hard for me, so listen up! )

Anyways, I find the world slightly funny. Us humans set each other up for failure. Work, school.. etc.. we all complain about it. But do we really NEED to do it? Do we need to do these chores to survive? No!

Society has been built this way, and us humans are simply doing this to find some sort of meaning to our lives- which is good. But I just find it ironic that people complain when it's actually a world that we've created. Money.. it's not real.

Anyways, I'm not saying im against getting a good education and a good job- I'm all for that. I plan on doing both of those, and look forward to it.

These are just a few thoughts that i've been pondering lately. Feel free to add on.

 

[cxoli]

I think I know what you mean. Things like wealth are just concepts....You can say, "I have this many dollars in the bank," but it's just numbers on paper. We work so hard to succeed, but when we die it's not like it's going to matter how high-paying our job was or how famous we were.

I guess our society is how it is since we feel the need for structure, or to feel like we've accomplished something, or something like that :/ I'm really not sure.

 

[WildfireFX]

Well im glad to see i'm not the only one who noticed that. I'd hate to be going crazy

 

[RoaCh of DisCord]

I think I understand what you're getting at...

We do all of these things that we do, so we have structure. So we are civilized. So things simply work. Of course we don't HAVE to be living in a world of jobs, work...and education...yet in my opinion, it's for the best, and it's what works. We have such a high population of humans in this world...we HAVE to have structure to survive as peacefully as possible. We start from nothing, and work our way up to the top, and the higher up we get, the better of a life we have. Education sets us up for the "real" world...and the jobs we get make it a fair way for us to get money, and to make a living. Without some sort of system...things would be way too chaotic.

 

[Cobalt Wolf]

Ya you tend to think this way when you are low on money and bills are due. :-/

I think today's way of living is much easier than it was back then. If you
want to know what I truely mean, go visit a foreign country where they still
have to hunt to eat and plant their own vegetables and fruit and build their
own houses. A lot of these modern day Americans would not last - it's more
physical work than they have ever known in their whole lives. Even though
there are people living on the streets (they don't have to be, there are
shelters that clean them up and help them get jobs) still, things are not
really that bad. Think of all the debt consolidation companies, the homeless
shelters, wic and welfare, bank loans - all these things to help people
get their lives straight - things that didn't exist so many years ago.

Some things get harder as we progress but some things get easier.
The way of living is getting more comfy but there are a lot
more things to stress about than there were back then.

Sorry if I'm a little off-subject here or just totally missed the point,
I just woke up :sleepy ​

 

[Nicholas The Slide]

i connect with you on this one wildfire..i sometimes think about this like,
-we would be just fine without:
any currency (monetary)
school (we survived w/o it for way more years than weve had it)
rap (i mean it sucks so bad.)
the world would be suck a better place without these things..it woudld be much "easier" in certain ways and hgarder in others but thenagain we would not have as much "crime" because we would not be greedy or have ONE thing that makes ppl "rich"

 

[Cobalt Wolf]

There will always be crime. Just because there wouldn't be any currency that does
not mean that people cannot still steal. And people can still vandalize and kill others.​

 

[Nicholas The Slide]

yes but that is becazuse you are looking at thathis from a point of view that has already been influenced by society. (not saying that i havent of course). try looking at it from a perspective of if we never had a "civilised" society.

 

[Cobalt Wolf]

No, I'm just taking into consideration the fact that most mammals are
instinctually violent - including humans. We made the law to keep order
and peace. If you are talking about going back to an era when currency
did not exist then you have to remember that there was no law either.
Currency has been around for a long long time, just as law has.​

 

[B~E]

No, I'm just taking into consideration the fact that most mammals are
instinctually violent - including humans. We made the law to keep order
and peace. If you are talking about going back to an era when currency
did not exist then you have to remember that there was no law either.
Currency has been around for a long long time, just as law has.​

There was obiviously law befor currency, since you need law to have a currency, but not the other away around.

 

[Nicholas The Slide]

animals live by laws as well....not nesasaraly super defined but there are thing that animals do and dont do toward each other. humans lived by those laws for over a million years (when we started evolving).

 

[Sogeking]

laws? or instincts?

maybe its instinct for humans to work? if we didnt do anything at all we would die no? farmers farmed because they needed the food(in the first place at least) and it was a fairly simple(now at least) way of obtaining food. And then groups of farms got together and hey, you have something nice and i have something you think is nice. if we trade we are both happy. so this happend for a while and became human instinct to trade something with another human(words, money, service, theyre all the same) and with the advancement of culture is the advancement of the need for humans to learn and work. to get that really nice car the car dealer has, you will give him peices of paper...but without your peices of paper, his family wont live. you may think you dont need the car but you do have the money and its a very very useful thing. i dunno, i guess what im saying sounds like babble, but humans find things that other humans want and instead of working out on the farm they are selling things that they cant use for food directly but selling it for something that they can get food for. I dont know why you would bother with this when you could just have a farm but i guess that humans have a higher standard of living. i dont find it funny at all.

 

[Gedrin]

Without school we wouldn't have an educated population.
An educated population produces more goods do to greater skill and greater organizational skills.
People that are highly educated can do more specialized jobs that result in innovation which leads to a more efficient utilization of our resources.

This all boils down to one thing. When there isn't enough food or water people become undernourished and in some cases starve. Without these resources peopel stary fighting more.

Before we had modern medicine people died from things like measles, and certain infections that today are easily cured.

 

[The Voice Of God]

**** school i rather learn it on my own!

 

[Cobalt Wolf]

That's true that there was law before currency but there has always been
some sort of item of trade before there was even law. Cavemen used to
trade things for things with other cavemen. Today, cavemen trade
currency for things with other cavemen.

The food chain is purely instinct, just like having one person/animal rule
and having the rest follow or do the hunting or the manual labour.

Anyways, back on topic:
Work, school, etc - do we really need these chores to survive?

We've lived without them before but if we ever really want to progress and
make our way of living easier, we are going to need better education.

The world around us is constantly changing, there are always new
diseases and sicknesses popping up and we need to stay on top of
it and learn everything we can about them so that we can cure them.

Education gives us an idea of where to start when it comes to finding
cures. If we don't know what we are doing then how are we supposed to
know where to start or what to even look for or what we are looking at?

Work also considers our way of living. Think about it, each new product
that comes out on the market, every new government program or new
online internet website, they all have people behind those company names,
working to keep that company thriving. We need work because we need
companies that make clothes, companies that can/box/freeze food, we
need companies that sell the clothes and food, we need companies that
help us get our lives back on track (such as the AA and the AAA) - well
if you think about it, you don't really need it but wouldn't you
rather have it? You know as well as I do that it makes life easier to have
clothes pre-made for you and waiting for you to buy them off a hanger
in a store and to have food already sitting on a shelf, just waiting for
you to toss it in your buggy to check out.

If you didn't have money,what would we be trading for clothes and food?
Money's not necessary but we've made it necessary because we're not
going to give up this way of living that is easy for some people and hard
for the ones who don't have money.​

 

[Sogeking]

would you say that money is part of the foodchain of life?

 

[Cobalt Wolf]

It is part of the "food chain of life" within the human species.
We've made it like this. Whoever has the most wealth is on top.​

 

[Nicholas The Slide]

Cavemen used to
trade things for things with other cavemen.​

thats y i said ONE thing that makes people rich. bartering has almost always existed.