Serious Question plzz answer!!!!!!!!

[Viet_boi059]

This is a question about the last wish. Ok i had a last wish zerk and all last wishes have a ignore targets defense. I'm not sure be i think that means that you will nevermiss since the target has no defense(like some football teams but i will not get into that) So i was using the lastwish to kill baal and i kept missing. I thought it ignored the targets defense. I also tried the last wish in dueling and i couldn't hit a barb or pally if my life depended on it. Plz help me and tell me what i am doing wrong.

 

[Pale_Horse]

I think I'm wrong on this so dont quote me. I beleive "ignore Target Defense" that all damage goes past the defense rather then getting deducted from defense first.

Say you do 1000 damage, and you attack someone who has 800 defense, that 800 is deducted from your damage and the remainder is what damage is actually taken. Now ignore target defense is the defense on your gear, ect. is basically non existent. So you hit them for full attack damage. (Correct me if I am wrong anyone)

If you are having trouble hitting characters try raising your Dex as well. This will increase your AR and Def on your own character.

 

[Shadow-Hunter]

I belive its becouse The mod "Ignore targed defence" only work for normal monsters .. It dont work against Other players (PvP) and Super unique monsters and such.. Not sure tho.... So dont quote me on this eather Btw,, what are your attack rating? it might be too low.. Even with Ignore targed def, you still need some Ar to hit the monsters where ITD dont work..

~Shadow

 

[Viet_boi059]

thx my attack rating is only 10k so i guess thats why i can't hit anything.

 

[Pale_Horse]

thx my attack rating is only 10k so i guess thats why i can't hit anything.

Check it after fighting Baal, raise it to a minimum of 50% that will get you some results.

 

[fireomen92]

thx my attack rating is only 10k so i guess thats why i can't hit anything.

dude 10k is pretty good. my barb has 10k wen he uses his warcries and he hits all and all.

 

[D6E6A6D]

i have 12k ar on my single player barb, he uses 2x last wish and hits baal pretty consistantly. 10k is not enought vrs barbs pushing 20-30k def though. try switching ammy and a ring to angelics, pumping your ar, or using charms with +ar.

 

[Laharl]

Question: Doesn't -100% enemy resists act the exact same as "Ignore Target's Defence", or does it act differently?

 

[dNiym]

From the Arreat Summit:

Ignores Target Defense (Armor Class)
This ability will not work on Unique Monsters, Super Unique Monsters, Hirelings, other players, and Act-end bosses.

What the game does is that set the Defensive Rating of the target to 0. That means it simplifies to:

AR = 100 * 2 * alvl / (alvl + dlvl)

AR = Attack Rating; alvl = Level of Attacker; dlvl = Level of Defender.

So there is still an effect of the level difference on the chance to hit and there is still a minimum of 5% and a maximum of 95% chance to hit.

 

[Laharl]

But really they both set it to 0. x - 1.00(x) = 0. Shouldn't they be identical? Do they have any information on -% enemy defense?

 

[dNiym]

Sorry i cant find anything on the Arreat Summit about - enemy res anywhere. :\

Look Here: for most everything explained.
http://www.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/magic.shtml

Um now that i think about it it probably works just like cold mastery does:

Once mastery over this powerful elemental force is attained, a Sorceress achieves perfect command over this school of magic. Her freezing spells are now of such potency that those adversaries formerly impervious to their effects soon find themselves the surprised victims of a vicious, chilly assault.

Passive Effect - Pierces the cold resistance of your enemies.

Player vs Player - This will cut other Player's Cold Resistances, even when maxed.

Cold Mastery will only lower the resistance of monsters that are hit by the Sorceress, this bonus cannot be shared with party members.

Cold Mastery will not work against monsters that are Immune to Cold. So even if you have Enemy Resistance -105%, they will still be Cold Immune and you will still be unable to damage them. So what's the point of 100%+ you might ask? Well if they are NOT Cold Immune, it will lower their Cold Resistance down below 0% which essentially means they will take more damage. It's just like when *you* have negative resistances in Nightmare/Hell difficulty.

If a target has 75% Cold Resistance and you use Skill Level 1 Cold Mastery, the target's resistance will be 75% - 20% = 55%.

 

[Laharl]

I'm asking about -% enemy DEFENSE, not -% enemy resists.

Example: 4x eth weapon = -100% defense. Wouldn't that, in theory, be identical to "ignores targets defense" since it would set their defense to 0?

 

[dNiym]

Question: Doesn't -100% enemy resists act the exact same as "Ignore Target's Defence", or does it act differently?

You didnt say -100% enemy DEFENSE or 4 eth weapon... You said -100% enemy resists
I didnt catch where you said you werent talking about the -100% def until later.

so in answer does your question is -100% enemy defense and ignore target defense the same thing, id say YES!

This begs the question does a 4 eth weapon work BETTER than ignore target def? if so it would make for a nasty duel weapon, since Ignore target defense does not work on players.

 

[Laharl]

Oh! From the first one! My brain isn't working correctly today, I apoligize.

 

[dNiym]

Ok i tested a 4 eth weapon vs my grief and last wish against a hammerdin.
Results are:
4 eth weapon = sucks compared to grief or last wish.

With 4 eth weapon it took 4 hits to kill target about 25% life consistantly.
With Last Wish it took 2 hits to kill target about 50% life consistantly.
With Grief it took 1 hit to kill target 100% constistantly.

 

[Laharl]

But now we need to find out if it will work pvp, because that would be a rather nasty surprise if you combine it with a crushing blow frostadin, and a six socket zerker axe that has two shaels.