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[Galatia]

Who else is happy about the death of SUVs?

American carmakers | That shrinking feeling | Economist.com

 

[B~E]

Clearly, as if it wasnt obvious before, the solution is to make even bigger cars!

 

[Barney Stinson]

Considering gas has actually gone down in the past few days, I'd say that there not dead yet.

That and apparntly gas is supposed to be back down to 2.99$ over here by the end of the year. So no, SUV's arn't dead. They're incredibly useful when you need to haul **** around, and to think of life now a days without oversized cars to carry **** in is a little bit scary.

 

[Uncle_Vanya]

Where has gas gone down exactly? I spent 63 bucks on 15 gallons of 89 last week. I don't know where you heard about 2.99 but what Im hearing is that oil could rise 500 bucks per barrel this year.

 

[Clearcast]

fuel is stupidly high here and its about to get higher. im lucky to get half a week off £10.

big cars are fine for dragging **** around, i use our van a lot. not if youre runnin your little kid down the road to school or doing shopping and only manage to fill up a quarter of the boot or one footwell. that just screams ''look at me, im a ****ing twat with more money than sense. get the **** out the way or ill batter your car and claim it on your insurance''.

theyre called SUVs, people carriers, pickups and off road 4WDs for a reason.

 

[Uncle_Vanya]

Well dude, you're from england, I hear your gas has always been high, like 6-8 USD per gallon? Its all because your government taxes the gas imports so much, thats why the price is so high, otherwise it'd be like in US or Russia.

 

[Barney Stinson]

Where has gas gone down exactly? I spent 63 bucks on 15 gallons of 89 last week. I don't know where you heard about 2.99 but what Im hearing is that oil could rise 500 bucks per barrel this year.

I just told you where it went down. It's on a steady downfall in AMERICA. Why? Because theres a group of countries that feel bad for us and are going to start exporting a huge amount of oil to us compared to the 0 they used to.

Theres always Money Talk and other stupid programs on the TV at my work so I know all kinds of new **** about what's going on in my part of the world.

Though I could give a **** less about your Russia and how much you guys pay for gas. Long as I don't have to pay over 4 I'm fine.

 

[Uncle_Vanya]

I just told you where it went down. It's on a steady downfall in AMERICA. Why? Because theres a group of countries that feel bad for us and are going to start exporting a huge amount of oil to us compared to the 0 they used to.

Theres always Money Talk and other stupid programs on the TV at my work so I know all kinds of new **** about what's going on in my part of the world.

Though I could give a **** less about your Russia and how much you guys pay for gas. Long as I don't have to pay over 4 I'm fine.

Im in America numbnuts, take a ****ing chill pill. No, the prices are not going down, at least not in the South East. You don't know the first mother****ing thing about how gas prices are determined so be quiet.

edit: Sorry, Soulless, I just figured out that you're a wigger, Im not going to waste my time trying to argue with you, you're incapable of making objective conclusions.

 

[Tw@]

I doubt this will be the death of the SUV

QQ

 

[torrid mind]

LOL who the **** feels sorry for us?

 

[x42bn6]

fuel is stupidly high here and its about to get higher. im lucky to get half a week off £10.

big cars are fine for dragging **** around, i use our van a lot. not if youre runnin your little kid down the road to school or doing shopping and only manage to fill up a quarter of the boot or one footwell. that just screams ''look at me, im a ****ing twat with more money than sense. get the **** out the way or ill batter your car and claim it on your insurance''.

theyre called SUVs, people carriers, pickups and off road 4WDs for a reason.

Living near White City, I used to fill up my Oyster Card at White City Station every week. There's a petrol station nearby and when I first moved in, petrol was 99p/litre, and in a rather nice lesson in percentages, has gone up by 30p. Now that in itself doesn't seem much until I remember my percentage lessons and learn that it's a whopping 30%.

In Malaysia, the cost is even worse - because the government subsidises fuel costs, by quite a large percentage, any changes they make are sudden, large ones. Petrol went up by 40.6% while diesel 63.2% (Petrol to cost RM2.70 from midnight (updated)).

There really is only one thing we all can do and that's learn to live with large fuel prices by cutting down on usage. It's easier said than done for people in the States, I believe. For me, it hardly matters although food prices are gently rising for me, now.*

 

[Clearcast]

Well dude, you're from england, I hear your gas has always been high, like 6-8 USD per gallon? Its all because your government taxes the gas imports so much, thats why the price is so high, otherwise it'd be like in US or Russia.

they have man, its rediculous. they say theyre bumping it up another 2p a litre over the next few years but given theyve already bumped it up like 25p a litre within the past year, you learn to know bull**** when you hear it quickly here..

car tax just shot up too, just in case there were a few economic drivers out there that they were worried they wouldnt be able to tax more.

 

[Uncle_Vanya]

Living near White City, I used to fill up my Oyster Card at White City Station every week. There's a petrol station nearby and when I first moved in, petrol was 99p/litre, and in a rather nice lesson in percentages, has gone up by 30p. Now that in itself doesn't seem much until I remember my percentage lessons and learn that it's a whopping 30%.

In Malaysia, the cost is even worse - because the government subsidises fuel costs, by quite a large percentage, any changes they make are sudden, large ones. Petrol went up by 40.6% while diesel 63.2% (Petrol to cost RM2.70 from midnight (updated)).

There really is only one thing we all can do and that's learn to live with large fuel prices by cutting down on usage. It's easier said than done for people in the States, I believe. For me, it hardly matters although food prices are gently rising for me, now.*

Another thing we can do is revise how oil is being priced, right now its priced primarily on speculation and thats why prices are up even though demand is down. What needs to be done is a rigid supply and demand system, that will prevent the oil companies from not drilling in areas that are available to them so they can keep the prices high.

they have man, its rediculous. they say theyre bumping it up another 2p a litre over the next few years but given theyve already bumped it up like 25p a litre within the past year, you learn to know bull**** when you hear it quickly here..

car tax just shot up too, just in case there was a few economic drivers out there that they were worried they wouldnt be able to tax even more.

Yeah...European socialism...got to love it.

 

[Tipsy]

I bet as soon as energy prices go down, whether it's switching away from gas-powered cars or a decrease in the price of gas (be it with more alternatives, supply, or whatever) the SUV will probably come back.

Another thing we can do is revise how oil is being priced, right now its priced primarily on speculation and thats why prices are up even though demand is down. What needs to be done is a rigid supply and demand system, that will prevent the oil companies from not drilling in areas that are available to them so they can keep the prices high.

Removing speculation from the market reduces the fluidity within the market and actually ends up raising prices even when speculation is driving prices up. It's been tried before in different sectors of the market against the advise of economists and it raised prices just as predicted. Removing/regulating speculation is in no way a path to lowering prices. Welcome back, btw, Kuzmich.

 

[Darkmatter]

Man, it sucks. It's about 4.58 or so per gallon where I live. Anyone below 4 dollars is ****ing lucky.

 

[Barney Stinson]

Im in America numbnuts, take a ****ing chill pill. No, the prices are not going down, at least not in the South East. You don't know the first mother****ing thing about how gas prices are determined so be quiet.

edit: Sorry, Soulless, I just figured out that you're a wigger, Im not going to waste my time trying to argue with you, you're incapable of making objective conclusions.

Clearwater Florida gas prices are going down. Orlando prices are going down. Tampa prices are going down. It's going down over here, and I'm just about the southeastish you can go. Give it a few months and when the price is going down a lot I'll go ahead and take it as another win.

 

[Galatia]

I bet as soon as energy prices go down, whether it's switching away from gas-powered cars or a decrease in the price of gas (be it with more alternatives, supply, or whatever) the SUV will probably come back.
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I bet energy prices will never go down again.

 

[Uncle_Vanya]

I bet as soon as energy prices go down, whether it's switching away from gas-powered cars or a decrease in the price of gas (be it with more alternatives, supply, or whatever) the SUV will probably come back.


Removing speculation from the market reduces the fluidity within the market and actually ends up raising prices even when speculation is driving prices up. It's been tried before in different sectors of the market against the advise of economists and it raised prices just as predicted. Removing/regulating speculation is in no way a path to lowering prices. Welcome back, btw, Kuzmich.

Thanks, but how exactly is not a way of reducing prices? Right now the prices are high even though demand is actually comparatively low, there are also oil fields out there, specifically in Alaska that the oil companies are legally allowed to drill but they don't because drilling there would influence speculation in a way that prices would go down. Speculation is regulated, right now its regulated by the actions of oil companies rather then actions of the consumers and thats not good. If you regulate it, you can lower the price, if you continue to regulate it the price will not rise.

 

[x42bn6]

Probably the best way to reduce prices is to use less oil, and is, to me, the only feasible way of doing things.

It wouldn't elect Presidents, though, which is the obvious problem.*

 

[Uncle_Vanya]

Probably the best way to reduce prices is to use less oil, and is, to me, the only feasible way of doing things.

It wouldn't elect Presidents, though, which is the obvious problem.*

Thats the thing though, there is no shortage of oil, the production is an all time high and there are many fields that companies are not drilling to keep the prices up. Speculation means that the price is determined not by supply and demand but by what the commodity traders on the stock exchange are lead to believe.