Paladins! What is suggested?

[Zorrik]

Hiya. It's been years since I played Diablo 2 Expansion and I need some advice. I am not sure which way to go on the Paladin: Defensive, Offensive, or Combat Skills. At first I put 2 points into prayer. Then I regretted it and put some into Might and then Holy Fire. I am unsure which way to go. Sure, I could start over another Paladin, but I'd like to experiment with this one first before I go make another Paladin. So, any tips on making the best possible Paladin? :wasted

 

[Aqua-THF]

Best Paladins use a combination of all the trees. Try the Sticky and you will find what your looking for...

 

[Ntrik_]

Best Paladins use a combination of all the trees. Try the Sticky and you will find what your looking for...

no... what kind of idiot uses defensive auras? they're all useless... (well the all resist aura might be good for party play if you have 2 other pallies with you )

zealdin? or Hammerdin? check the stiky please.

 

[SweatyOgre]

I do believe Vigor is a defensive Aura, and it's an important syngergy for Blessed Hammer. Defiance is also extremely important for Holy Shield on Zealers.

 

[Zorrik]

Ok thanks. I'll look.

 

[minny]

try this..its unique and kicks ass

http://www.battleforums.com/showthread.php?t=72296&highlight=minny's

for the gloves...20% increase attack speed is more useful
and for boots i found out tearhunch is hella useful too.
and the belt sharkskins razortail belt is good piercing.

 

[anarchistica]

no... what kind of idiot uses defensive auras? they're all useless...

Let's see...

Prayer: Medics
Resist Fire: No one
Resist Cold: Frostdins
Resist Lightning: Tesladins, Shockers
Defiance: Zealots
Cleansing: Medics
Vigor: Every paladin with a brain, especially Hammerdins and Chargedins
Meditation: Hammerdin, Medics (for Pindlerunning)
Redemption: Medics
Salvation: Frostdins, Shockers, Medics, any paladin without full resists on Hell

 

[Trojan]

salvation is a waste if ur a good pally b/c what would u want when goin up against baal for instance? salvation or conce hrm lets this about this... how many shockers or frostdins or medics do u see are there many ppl play to lvl and get stuff or play to pvp. and wtf is a tesladin its must be so retarded i never heard of it

 

[Ntrik_]

Let's see...

Prayer: Medics
Resist Fire: No one
Resist Cold: Frostdins
Resist Lightning: Tesladins, Shockers
Defiance: Zealots
Cleansing: Medics
Vigor: Every paladin with a brain, especially Hammerdins and Chargedins
Meditation: Hammerdin, Medics (for Pindlerunning)
Redemption: Medics
Salvation: Frostdins, Shockers, Medics, any paladin without full resists on Hell

medics? who plays em? dumbasses?

MEditation? For hammerdin? Only noobs uses it, there is something called Mana potion if you didnt know,

Tesladin/shockers/frostdin = Why make em when you got zealdin?

 

[anarchistica]

salvation is a waste if ur a good pally b/c what would u want when goin up against baal for instance? salvation or conce hrm lets this about this...

It's very useful to keep your party safe from Souls.

how many shockers or frostdins or medics do u see are there many ppl play to lvl and get stuff or play to pvp.

Shockers you rarely see, but they can be quite powerful (you get about 1-5000 lightning damage just with the skill and synergy maxed if i'm not mistaken). Frostdins are mostly played when ladder is reset or when they want a good Diablo Clone killer (it's also alot of fun, you know, the reason why people play games...).

and wtf is a tesladin its must be so retarded i never heard of it

A Paladin using Fist of Heavens and Conviction, it's one of the most powerful PVP characters, strange you've never heard of it...

medics? who plays em? dumbasses?

People who like helping their party. Also, it's a good Pindlerunner.

MEditation? For hammerdin? Only noobs uses it, there is something called Mana potion if you didnt know,

Every experienced Hammerdin-user knows the value of Meditation, though i wouldn't spend skillpoints to get it.

Tesladin/shockers/frostdin = Why make em when you got zealdin?

Tesladin is good for PVP, Shockers can be very powerful and are good for boosting and Frostadins are the best Uber Diablo killers, one of the best classes for starting/poor players and very useful in parties (and a good booster too).

 

[Ntrik_]

It's very useful to keep your party safe from Souls.


Shockers you rarely see, but they can be quite powerful (you get about 1-5000 lightning damage just with the skill and synergy maxed if i'm not mistaken). Frostdins are mostly played when ladder is reset or when they want a good Diablo Clone killer (it's also alot of fun, you know, the reason why people play games...).


A Paladin using Fist of Heavens and Conviction, it's one of the most powerful PVP characters, strange you've never heard of it...


People who like helping their party. Also, it's a good Pindlerunner.


Every experienced Hammerdin-user knows the value of Meditation, though i wouldn't spend skillpoints to get it.


Tesladin is good for PVP, Shockers can be very powerful and are good for boosting and Frostadins are the best Uber Diablo killers, one of the best classes for starting/poor players and very useful in parties (and a good booster too).

Indeed, but zealdin with Fanta is more useful...

Every experienced diablo player knows value of mana potion,

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wow, 1-5000 dmg, thats high? since when?

 

[Aqua-THF]

salvation is a waste if ur a good pally b/c what would u want when goin up against baal for instance? salvation or conce hrm lets this about this... how many shockers or frostdins or medics do u see are there many ppl play to lvl and get stuff or play to pvp. and wtf is a tesladin its must be so retarded i never heard of it

Hmm, Tesladin = Shocker. This build seems to be very good for people who are not all that rich as the damage is not effected by the weapon you are using. It can also be awesome if you use a lot of High-End items, such as Crescent Moon and Griffons Eye? You know, the circlet with -Light Resists. Sweaty had a whole guide. I guess your so retarded you forgot to read that one... LOL

 

[Ntrik_]

Hmm, Tesladin = Shocker. This build seems to be very good for people who are not all that rich as the damage is not effected by the weapon you are using. It can also be awesome if you use a lot of High-End items, such as Crescent Moon and Griffons Eye? You know, the circlet with -Light Resists. Sweaty had a whole guide. I guess your so retarded you forgot to read that one... LOL

If you arent rich.. just go and make plain Zealdin, I did that, You know you get items on your way of lvling.

 

[Aqua-THF]

I heard Zealdins weren't good unless you had High-End items. Besides, Tesladins are a lot cooler. You know, cooler, as in more fun to play...

 

[Ntrik_]

I heard Zealdins weren't good unless you had High-End items. Besides, Tesladins are a lot cooler. You know, cooler, as in more fun to play...

hmm.. maybe, I know Tesladin is good for doing norm cow/trist for helping people..

Zealdins? Nah, I always started Zealdin as my very first char, it was fun, as long as you ahve high blocking and LL, you're ok.

 

[FWI]

I am seriously dumbfounded as to how stupid people can be sometimes... If you dont know shit about paladins, dont post shit about paladins. [not directed to any person in particular in this thread or any other thread but a broad view over time]

To start - Tesladins were somewhat rare yet still found in .09 and much rare in .10. The defensive skill tree IS worth points in some areas. For one [of many] You dont have to be an idiot to look at vengence synergies and see the defensive tree put to use.

Let's see...

Prayer: Medics
Resist Fire: No one
Resist Cold: Frostdins
Resist Lightning: Tesladins, Shockers
Defiance: Zealots
Cleansing: Medics
Vigor: Every paladin with a brain, especially Hammerdins and Chargedins
Meditation: Hammerdin, Medics (for Pindlerunning)
Redemption: Medics
Salvation: Frostdins, Shockers, Medics, any paladin without full resists on Hell

You forgot vengence all together which puts an entirely new name to the single resist auras. Not To Mention the passive bonus of +%max they give per two skill levels invested - which is pvp material if you have extra points.

what kind of idiot uses defensive auras? they're all useless...

:hbut ... I truly didnt have words to say back to that... you had me speachless of how lame that comment was - so that smiley should help.

medics? who plays em? dumbasses?

I have seen players that have been playing since the start of d1, including myself - that are WELL respected [not talking about myself there] - that have made a few medics. Could you even IMAGINE [seing your imagination seems to be low at the moment] the usefullness of a well skilled medic in your party at the beginning of ladder? I've seen people go parties of 8 through ladder till well into the 90's and they all love having a medic by their side. Not to mention its always nice having a character that is loved :heart - even if its not 100% offensive, although usually they arent 100% defensive.

MEditation? For hammerdin? Only noobs uses it, there is something called Mana potion if you didnt know,

I've seen paladins attempt getting to 99 in hardcore without potions... only auras and using NPCS. Aside from that - there are well respected hammerdins that effectively integrate meditation.

Tesladin/shockers/frostdin = Why make em when you got zealdin?

Its 'zealot' by the way [not too mention all the builds you listed are technically zealots in the first place - you refer to the fanatic zealot]. Holy shock, Holy Freeze, Holy Fire - all used with zealots. I'm glad your mainstream knowledge sees fanaticsm but some other people like to get creative - including those who specialize in zealots. I know some people that have 4-5 zealots. Call them noob all you want [you seem to like calling things noob] - but thats what they do and they make it effective in pvm and even in hell.

I heard Zealdins weren't good unless you had High-End items. Besides, Tesladins are a lot cooler. You know, cooler, as in more fun to play...

Very true and Very untrue. Mostly true when speaking pvp, Mostly untrue when speaking pvm. You can require no outside help with a pvm zealot and end up fine in hell if you know what you're doing. [As N_Edd already said]

Indeed, but zealdin with Fanta is more useful...

Every experienced diablo player knows value of mana potion,

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wow, 1-5000 dmg, thats high? since when?

Every experienced diablo paladin also knows the value of defensive auras.

Not to mention, a lvl 40 [can get higher] holy shock with full synergies [standard tesladin material] - NOT including any +%damage from facets comes out to 10,785 max damage. Now you tell me since standard trap damage is somewhere near 10K, is that damage ok? NOT to Mention - its more pvm then pvp. Think of that on a 4fpa zealot hitting you that fast. It's not godly but it Can be descent.

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bleh... sorry for the semi to mid level flaming

 

[Ntrik_]

Its 'zealot' by the way [not too mention all the builds you listed are technically zealots in the first place - you refer to the fanatic zealot]. Holy shock, Holy Freeze, Holy Fire - all used with zealots. I'm glad your mainstream knowledge sees fanaticsm but some other people like to get creative - including those who specialize in zealots. I know some people that have 4-5 zealots. Call them noob all you want [you seem to like calling things noob] - but thats what they do and they make it effective in pvm and even in hell.

... I have yet to see progress from my holy freeze din, and Zealot? It can be called Zealdin or Zealot, they are samething...?

I've seen paladins attempt getting to 99 in hardcore without potions... only auras and using NPCS. Aside from that - there are well respected hammerdins that effectively integrate meditation.

Oh shit what was that skill called again.. corpse absorbing thing? You dont need meditation once you know how to use that aura, its simple, you kill, switch aura, fill up your mana/health.

I have seen players that have been playing since the start of d1, including myself - that are WELL respected [not talking about myself there] - that have made a few medics. Could you even IMAGINE [seing your imagination seems to be low at the moment] the usefullness of a well skilled medic in your party at the beginning of ladder? I've seen people go parties of 8 through ladder till well into the 90's and they all love having a medic by their side. Not to mention its always nice having a character that is loved - even if its not 100% offensive, although usually they arent 100% defensive.

Going medic, the concept of it is just purely dumb, it maybe great for party, but I would much prefer Hammerdin instead.

... I truly didnt have words to say back to that... you had me speachless of how lame that comment was - so that smiley should help.

You make me speechless by going on about how great medics are, as well as Tesladin, I would rather just go on making hammerdin or Zealdin instead with fanta. So this smiley should help

:rofl2:rofl2:rofl2:rofl2:rofl2

 

[FWI]

... I have yet to see progress from my holy freeze din, and Zealot? It can be called Zealdin or Zealot, they are samething...?

Zealot is the universal term and it makes you sound more like you know what you're talking about - I was trying to help you out there. Sorry to here your HF zealot wasnt working out - is he pvm?

Going medic, the concept of it is just purely dumb, it maybe great for party, but I would much prefer Hammerdin instead.

Personal preference is the difference here. Playing a medic has its upsides and its downsides but dissing its entirety is kinda lame - at least consider the build without pissing on it - And the people who use them. You know I would prefer something such as a hammerdin as well - nothing wrong with that - even though I think hammers are pure shit in 1.10 with how strong they are - i see what you mean.

You make me speechless by going on about how great medics are, as well as Tesladin, I would rather just go on making hammerdin or Zealdin instead with fanta. So this smiley should help

:rofl2:rofl2:rofl2:rofl2:rofl2

I told you what a tesladin could be... I was more backing them up rather than telling you how great mine is because I've never personally made one since I tested one in early .09 legit zealot days - and damages have changed. As far as the medic - its preference. They are great in parties - I dont care what you say.

 

[Ntrik_]

Zealot is the universal term and it makes you sound more like you know what you're talking about - I was trying to help you out there. Sorry to here your HF zealot wasnt working out - is he pvm?



Personal preference is the difference here. Playing a medic has its upsides and its downsides but dissing its entirety is kinda lame - at least consider the build without pissing on it - And the people who use them. You know I would prefer something such as a hammerdin as well - nothing wrong with that - even though I think hammers are pure shit in 1.10 with how strong they are - i see what you mean.



I told you what a tesladin could be... I was more backing them up rather than telling you how great mine is because I've never personally made one since I tested one in early .09 legit zealot days - and damages have changed. As far as the medic - its preference. They are great in parties - I dont care what you say.

I havent tried Tesladin either, but I did try Holy freeze, but some how, I found fanta does more dmg then Holy Freeze, and if you want the aura, you can get it from your merc..

And as for Tesladin, many people around me who tried it said it sucks, 1- #### dmg's average blows, etc. etc, which doesnt give me any reason to start one.

And I didnt piss on MEdics, I just said its dumb in my opinion, most chars dont even die in Hell Baal run nowadays thx to unlimited botting and floods of items, I just said I would rather prefer other characters over medics.

 

[minny]

i dont see whats to argue about... my bowadin owns all. period .
cold resist wont work sorry
i have tried to defeat it with many chars, but the only one that could beat it was a trap assassin. so please just try it out

hammerdins with enimga... Very hard to defeat.
all sorces....worthless against him
zealots cant reach the bowadin even with charge.
ww assassins.. dont make me laugh
barbs are a little tough if they have enigma and WW
wind drugs with enigga easy
psn necros easy
zons..eh easy

only thing about the bowadin is the lack of damage against baal and diablo and thats about it...