Noob - need some advice

[LoveTheWeez]

alright so here is my situation: couple months ago i started playing with some kids on my campus. I dont have much trouble with the majority of them, except for one kid. He is a terran player - always gets me with large groups of cloaked wraiths and nuclear weapons. I am usually protoss, how do you suggest I go about defeating wraiths and nukes?

I gotta beat this kid, he talks a lot of shit.

Thanks.

 

[Phoenix2003]

Ok.
Play normal pvt. That is get goons/obs first. That should take care of the wraiths if he's going for them that early.

Place a few photons at your mineral line as harass the **** out him with goons. Build more gates so you can build a whole group quickly. Contain him using goons/obs staying out of range of his tanks.(If he has any)

Mass expand while denying him any resources. Eventually get speedzeals you're at it.

If he's spending his gas on wraiths and ghosts then it's most likely he won't have ANY tanks to kill your goon army.

If he's wallin himself in, then tech to carriers/corsairs.
Corsairs>>>wraiths so badly that you don't even need 12 of them. 4-6 will do. Carriers are there to break his wall.

Turtling terrans are waaayyyyyyy easy to beat.

Use the standard 1 gate goon robo build for fast observers.

The build goes something like this:
8 pylon(scout with this probe)
10 gate
12 assim
14 cyber
15 pylon
17 goon
from there get a robo facility and observatory and a second gate when you can afford it.

I hope this covers it.

 

[None293823]

You can try mass scouts and use observers to detect the ghosts,you can make some dark templars to kill the ghost.

With protoss i usually used to mass dragoons.They are good but i really havent tried vs wraiths so keep making scouts and corsairs

 

[a@...]

-I'm not a Toss player...but anyway...here's good strategy. Since I'm lazy i'm not gonna tell you the exact build order. findout by yourself and practice.

Play in island map, see if he still makes Wraiths. B/c protoss if the strongest race when it comes to an island map. Try going 1 Gate, 1 Robo, and 1 Stargate tech. Keep pump out goons(about 4 or more) and shuttles(few shuttles like 2 or more for dragoons), and Corsairs.(more than 6) since he goes for wraith in EVERY SINGLE GAME, and since you guys play in island map, He'd not hesitate and would go Wraiths right away as soon as the game starts...So if you follow correctly, and do it right, That'll be enough to own him.

Don't forget to make Observers for cloaked wraiths.

 

[Phoenix2003]

Islands are quite different from ground. I basically get goons,zeals, temps, some cannons while teching to carriers.

EDIT: To the original poster, disregard DarK Mage's post.

 

[TrongaMonga]

To disregard or not to disregard, depends on the map LoveTheWeez wants help on.

A money map, or a good map?

 

[Phoenix2003]

Ummm, thx. You missed the point entirely.

 

[TrongaMonga]

Yea, well, I gotta consider that it isn't a good tactic on money map either, actually -

 

[CuteGuyNo.1]

island map tactic vs terran:

-depending if the terran player is good or not, assume he goes for the usual goliath drop, if this is true go for fast robo tech, get shuttle and goons. take 2 expo asap, cannon around them and keep observer scanning around the map, once terran decides to expand, drop expo. Atfer all your mineral in main is gone and ur oppoent didn't expand, mass shuttle and drop.
*hints* while doing all that sneak drop Ht from time to time to storm thier scv ~.~

 

[Zera]

ahhh....PvT match up ehh? I've had troubles like this anymore. It seems to me like the guy ALWAYS uses wraiths/nuke combo. (Not a very smart one). Alright, goons will slaughter wraiths, but lemme just give you a few add-ons to help you.
At 8th probe, build pylon, and scout with it.
When pylon finish, build one gateway, and make an assim. (Try build as many probes as you can during this.)
When your probe has found him, save money, and take up his vespene gas spot with your probe. Do this as fast you can.
Get about four goons with range, and attack.
While doing this, tech up to dark templars.
The templars wiill finish that newbie off. Trust me.

 

[CuteGuyNo.1]

do this BO at start but once u have 1 goon, bring 1 probe and 1 goon to attack T's wall ( by this time u shoulda know where he is) then while u are busy microing at his wall, make a choice of weather u want to go the classic goon/obs, early expo, dt rush, or do a 2-3 gate goon. the choice is up to yours because of your style, don't wait till u have an army to attack terran, pressure terran so he can never push out to set up contain

 

[Phoenix2003]

push? given the description he can't do a push spending his money on wraiths and ghosts. And if he's turtling, then you can exactly attack him until you have a large enoguh force to do so.

 

[CuteGuyNo.1]

when he turles, use storm to harass his scv --;;

 

[Raccoon]

What is the minimum amount of Dragoons that one should send against Terran for presssure.

And.. wouldn't Sieged Tanks be a problem for small groups of Dragoons?

 

[Phoenix2003]

If he's spending money on wraiths and ghosts, nope. That's why I suggested it. wraith=siege tank, cost wise.

 

[CuteGuyNo.1]

if he goons rushes him while he is going wraith, surely he'd already won before he can have 4+ wraith ;(

 

[aphextwin]

pvt: robo.......

 

[Deranged Hydralisk]

The trick is to not let him build up. Get goons and detects early and don't give him a chance to go mass anything - attack the hell put of him in small groups the whole game long.

 

[Darkzero190]

yea dont let him get anything its good 2 do a lil of cannon rush its pretty good......other wise u can read all the post and get your own lil idea of what to do......