Nerf Shadowstrike!

[Huntress]

Hey, I was wondering maybe they should make shadow strike ALOT more than 65 mana. It is so good. I think it should be at least 80 mana...because if a level3 shadow strike hit the target...it does 225 damage PLUS the 25 per second. That totals up to alot. Also, since it slows...the warden can shadow strike you then while you are slowed, blink in front of you and attack you, then shadow strike again and so on. I really think they should nerf shadowstrike! What do you think?

 

[Aragorn7]

Hmm....I won't lie to you here.

I completely agree with you. And it is going to get nerfed.

https://www.battle.net/forums/war3/thread.aspx?FN=war3x-general&T=376035&P=1

 

[VBadGirl]

ss doesnt need to be nerf for one reason. warden is a agil hero so she has litle mana. unless u carry mana pots with u..she is not that good.

if she was an intel based hero...i could say yeah nerf but otherwise...

shadow stike is a sort of..strom bolt. the only differnce is that it deals damage over time..allowing the hero to heal while SB does it instantly.

is like holy light vs coil.

warden is the only ne hero that can fight UD heros and the only one that takes out so sucesfully the intel based heros. she is weak until she reaches at least lvl 4.

PS: aragorn ppl saying about wish lists are equals with 0. what actually going to be nerf or not its still yet to come. dont believe all newbs that post on bnet forums.

 

[Aragorn7]

Originally posted by VBadGirl
ss doesnt need to be nerf for one reason. warden is a agil hero so she has litle mana. unless u carry mana pots with u..she is not that good.

if she was an intel based hero...i could say yeah nerf but otherwise...

shadow stike is a sort of..strom bolt. the only differnce is that it deals damage over time..allowing the hero to heal while SB does it instantly.

is like holy light vs coil.

warden is the only ne hero that can fight UD heros and the only one that takes out so sucesfully the intel based heros. she is weak until she reaches at least lvl 4.

PS: aragorn ppl saying about wish lists are equals with 0. what actually going to be nerf or not its still yet to come. dont believe all newbs that post on bnet forums.

It might not need to be nerfed, but blizzard might nerf it. Newb that posts on the bnet forum! Haha.

Read the post for once. This is a COMPILATION of Blizzard Employees posts. He went back and looked at all the posts, and compiled it into a list. It is completely objective.

You could go look for the post that he said it in too. It will be there if you look hard enough.

Here is my compiled list things that are being changed, looked at, or not being changed by Bliz. This is according to posts by GF and TC. This list has been building for a while, so some of these may be different now.

Things being changed: Basically confirmed by Bliz Reps
"Being looked at": what it says
Not being changed: What it says

The Good news is, once the "being looked at" is reduced to no items, the patch will appear


EDIT: GF just corrected me on a few things, Warden Shadow Strike is being looked at and chims are not anymore. Its updated below. Also added FFA Improvement mentioned by BWhittle. Added Pitlord and upgraded Wisps to things being changed. Added thorns to things not being changed.

Up to date for the first 96 posts

 

[VBadGirl]

lol GF is just a pretty face over there. he is not able to tell what blizz is changing...now that the patch is out compare how many he was right about. there all were suppostion and u know blizzard said something really smart onces. some things might seem unbalanced but in reality u should check ur skills first.

many cried about BM and yet.. he didnt get nerf..not the way many wanted to be.

and naga bitch still didnt get a big nerf 3 extra mana per shot when she is an inteligence hero..pffffffft. u carry one mana pot and still pwn everyone.

and warden..didnt get nerf again. u actually ss a hero because of the slow movment rather than the damage delt.

i got a feeling ne got buffed while other got nerf. maybe MK got buffed and pally but the rest...hmmmmm. at least that blizz doesnt kill my archers just as easy .

still testing.......

 

[Aragorn7]

Ya, they did nerf it but not heavily at all. SS poison damage at level 1 was reduced to 10 damage per second.

NE is blizzards pet race.

 

[VBadGirl]

as i said heros arent as affected by the ss damage as much as a normal unit...but u manly use it to slow the hero down and be able to kill it.

and lvl 1 is not big deal. what they expected was the lvl 3 one which is nasty but so is sb so deal with it.

ne supposed to be the best race...they are the oldest...so there.

 

[Aragorn7]

Originally posted by VBadGirl
as i said heros arent as affected by the ss damage as much as a normal unit...but u manly use it to slow the hero down and be able to kill it.

and lvl 1 is not big deal. what they expected was the lvl 3 one which is nasty but so is sb so deal with it.

ne supposed to be the best race...they are the oldest...so there.

Naa....it is just that blizzard likes them more. It doesn't have anything to do with the story or anything. It all has to do with how blizzard "fixes" the NE race every patch.

 

[Samsara]

they just need to nerf cooldown cost by like 3 seconds or around that time cuz what i h8 the most is having my am move like a snail and getting pelted with wardens that have potions of clarity activated and a mana potion in their stash.

 

[VBadGirl]

Originally posted by noob_phucker
they just need to nerf cooldown cost by like 3 seconds or around that time cuz what i h8 the most is having my am move like a snail and getting pelted with wardens that have potions of clarity activated and a mana potion in their stash.

ur am shouldnt come and try to do nasty things to my wips in the first place. i dislike that old man on his horse. he is fast and his spells are annoying..death to him!

aragorn ..read the history of wc..u'll see that ne were first to become a race..before any other begun to evolve there. and not human, and not orcs, and not ud fighted to war of the ancients..against burning legion and sargeras. burning legion conquered many planets , dimensions..universes..u name it. their power was enourmous yet they were defeated by night elves. true it was with a bit of help but still.

night elves arent as strong as u say although they are agility based race..and ranged. u gotta fight with the right units against them..thats all.

 

[Aragorn7]

"You just have to get the right units."

Right....I am sure everyone was saying that when ancients ruled supreme.


NE has always had problems, ever since the beginning of ROC. Blizzard has nerfed and buffed (more of this) them all over the map. They can't seem to find a good common ground.

 

[VBadGirl]

Originally posted by Aragorn7
"You just have to get the right units."

Right....I am sure everyone was saying that when ancients ruled supreme.


NE has always had problems, ever since the beginning of ROC. Blizzard has nerfed and buffed (more of this) them all over the map. They can't seem to find a good common ground.

ancients were buildings not even units :/ but u know i never used them . looked odd.

well it think all the prolems began with DH. when he was burning 300 mana. so ppl start complaining about that..he got nerf to half. after that ppl complain about his damage. he got nerf when they also changed the damage type.

and us the poor ne had nothing left. how could u compeat with human casters or with orcs or mass necros. so we found our cheese. mass ancients, mass aow...mass dotts.
Now is not enough to get 1 aow so we have to double it.
we always have to find a cheese to be able to compensate our weaknesses.

and the cheese master came... and the world seemed pink again. with his bear and hawk.

happy end .

my rant about the balance in WC.

i my oppinion hunts were good they way they were. medium armour 550 HP and 11-16 damage. while archers were 260 with 13-19 damage or something around.

dryads are good with unarmored because they are fast moving and got that poison thing..but they should be given more armour.

MY philosophy is no tier 1 unit should be able to beat above tier units. i mean whats the use to get tier 3 units if they are easy to counter with tier 1 or 2 units?. right?

dryads should not beat tier 3 melee they used to do it...but footman not to beat dryads also.

 

[Samsara]

ya but if ur talking about "oldest units" vbadgirl. then u assume that it would be very realistic. so now wouldnt a bat rider/flamestrike/infernal/catapult kill an ancient with one hit (u know how much fire luvs wood) and if it were "realistic" riflemen and gyrocopters would pwn every unit on the floor. cmon think about it...how is it that a gyro loses to a hawk when it has gattling guns?

 

[VBadGirl]

who said anything about realistic...and ancients arent plain dumb lumber. they generate from spirits. infernal is strong and alsways was..its part of the buring legion. and tell dont u think an infernal would pwn even a tauren?

i dont expain guns in those times. i mean come on the gun was invented in 17-th centure or 18...the time of warcraft isnt no near that century. they should fight with the swords, and bows.( spears and etc).

if they were so advanced they would make a nuke...pwn the planet and game over.

and plus even if u set a tree on fire..it take a lot of time until it burns completely.

 

[Torubu]

What does NE being the oldest race have to do with anything? No race is supposed to be stronger than the other, that's not a balanced game. WC3 is supposed to be balanced, not have NE being stronger because it's "older." If you want to pull up the history, though, then why are treants so weak? They're what beat the burning legion, not the Sentinels.

 

[Aragorn7]

Originally posted by Torubu
What does NE being the oldest race have to do with anything? No race is supposed to be stronger than the other, that's not a balanced game. WC3 is supposed to be balanced, not have NE being stronger because it's "older." If you want to pull up the history, though, then why are treants so weak? They're what beat the burning legion, not the Sentinels.

Exactly, for the sake of balance all teams must be equal. I don't care about the history of warcraft, since it is irrelivant to the game as it is now. Warcraft 3 without balance is like playing tennis against someone without a racket to hit the ball.

 

[VBadGirl]

Originally posted by Torubu
What does NE being the oldest race have to do with anything? No race is supposed to be stronger than the other, that's not a balanced game. WC3 is supposed to be balanced, not have NE being stronger because it's "older." If you want to pull up the history, though, then why are treants so weak? They're what beat the burning legion, not the Sentinels.

ahem! the treant that u are talking about were summoned by cenarius which is demigod...kotg is one of his sons...no as near as powerful his dad used to be. i would like my kotg to have divine armour and chaos attack...wouldnt that be sweet?


I was just joking with the history... all races have counters to everything. if u havent found out this so far..u wasted ur time for nothing dude. trow away ur wc cd. it seems its usless anyway.

its true u need skills to be able to pull out a counter..skilles that not all have. trust me i see this every day when i play.. ppl that are just better playing another game or simply just customs.

 

[shutupandgoaway]

I think they should either raise the mana cost or extremely lower the poison damage it does.