Necromancers

[kesman2]

Y arent more people necros i am a newb with a lvl 62 necro. I can kill just about any lvl 60+ barb while using my fire golem bone prizon bone spirit and iron maiden there is also an advantage in cows. I take down thousands of cows in just a few seconds when a barb kills one i kill all with corpse explosion. It is so easy i dont think i would ever make new char other than necro welll maybe a boazon lol.

 

[Misterwhippy]

I have a level 85 necro now, i do the same thing, but i use iron golem. no barb has ever killed it

 

[KeLander]

Originally posted by kesman2
. I can kill just about any lvl 60+ barb while using my fire golem bone prizon bone spirit and iron maiden there is also an advantage in cows.

u must have versed a newbie barb man fire gol sux against barbs iron gol on the other hand rules plus ur bone prison would not be that strong a barb can ww thru it and get u no prob the only was i could see u winning was by the bone spirit and id seriously doubt that u had maxed it by level 60 sumthin

 

[Guru]

my zon could not the $hit out of ur necro

 

[oneyedMan]

necromancers are weak characters in my opinion .. They can easily be killed by a Amazon. Necromancers are just good for killing cows fast for exp and making alot of lag

 

[Misterwhippy]

**** those lagomancers, the summond cows they make suck. i use courpse explosion. and in PVP, bone prison +iron maden kills any melee character, those bonewalls/prisons have life, the attacker will take damage. zons are such cheeter characters anyways. run out of town, use guided, gayyyyyyyyyyy. so cheap. people should stop saying how good in PVP zons are, its sooooo gay what they do.

 

[kesman2]

i agree with u mister whippy my first necro i piled skill poitns into a summoning necro with lots of revied things and skeleton mages it sux when a stupid necro will make tons of revied cows its not only the lag but the reason i hate most is the fact that its hard to tell which is which

 

[Guru]

Zons in my opinion are not the best PvP, sorcs are with their energy shield...its cheap as f***, its almost impossible to kill them i can only get them down to about 3/8 of their usual life...but besides sorc Zons are the best....it doesnt matter how cheap a character is...it matters how well the kick a$$

 

[Misterwhippy]

sure zons might be really strong, but they arent melee which makes it really cheap. so are sorcs who use TS in duels and teleport. assasins who trap enterance up and leave, is also another gay PVP thing. but guided using zons is the worst. how cheap can you get. I hope that guided is changed in 1.10 for PVP.

 

[Guru]

the only people u left out when calling people cheap are barbarians, palidan, necromancer, and druids. necromancer and druids werent designed to be PvP....and palidans are ok at pvp but cant match barbarians in close combat....so if over half of the people designed for PvP are cheap...then they're not that cheap when they duel each other.....u people who complain they're cheap only say that cause u lose to them everytime. and if they're so cheap why dont u make an amazon or sorceress or assisan? people who do make so called "cheap" characters have no other way of killing people with those characters.....what do u want a bowazon to do then? draw a sword?

 

[Misterwhippy]

classes can evenly duel within the same class
but zons using guided against barbs is cheap. a barb cant just run up to it and hit it when the zon might have knockback and be running. sure they kill good but when i make a game called 'barb duels' itll end up with 2 barbs, and the rest sorcs and zons, know why, because barbs are an easy kill for them. how do you know necros werent ment for PVP, maybe zons werent. unless you talk to the people at blizz alot, stfu.

 

[Guru]

what do u wont a zon to do againts a barb then? one hit from ww there dead so what should they do?

 

[Misterwhippy]

if a barb can get to a zon yeah WW might kill them, but a good zon has so much DR. zons go duel zons or sorcs, leave the melee characters to themselves

 

[Guru]

a barb can easily duel a zon....just get lots of 5% walk/run faster sc and just chase them and wait for them to fire guided, when they stop to shoot the barbarian can roll over them.....i've killed me barbs be4 but i have also lost to many barbs too

 

[Misterwhippy]

well, thats a waste of inventory space. theres also this new hack ive seen zons have like a dodge hack or somthing. cant be hit, gay. zons have no buisness dueling melee characters, no matter how you rationalize it. i hope 1.10 has class banning in games. finally get a barb duel game with all barbs, imagine that.

 

[Guru]

haha......OMG if u have a barb that can't duel a zon then ur barb sux!!! barbs are equaly macthed as long as they have enough life and DR then they shouldnt have a huge problem dueling zons...its not impossible because it only takes 1 hit from WW to kill the zon!

 

[Misterwhippy]

i dont have a barb at all in fact. and if YOU have a zon that take take one WW from a barb then YOU suck. my zon ( i know this from dueling my friends barb, im not one of the fags who goes into barb duel games) can take 4 WW's from his barb (level 87 fury BB, ss, 5% arreats, shaft) one of the better barbs out there from what ive seen. so dont you go calling my guys sucky, when your zon cant take one ww from a barb (which it shouldent even be doing because its gay). so stfu when you say zons and melee characters can evenly duel.

 

[KeLander]

wow thats a strong zon...but then a fbb in 1 hand is not that strong i think an ls does more dmg 1 handed

 

[Guru]

omfg Misterwhippy.......first of all i exagerated........most Zons can take about 2 hits from WW but if u can take 4 hits from a barb then that barb sux...but anyways WW hits the enemy more than once....so the barb only has to click once and then he will spin through the zon and hit her 5 times or so....the biggest factor when i duel barbs isnt the weopon....its the way u duel....if u shoot guided on times to many be4 u run the barb will have ur neck....the battles between a zon and barb mostly depends on how they duel...or atleast imo.

 

[Misterwhippy]

a little excerpt from an article published September 17, 2001 on diabloii.net...

"One controversial item now is the Buriza-Do Kanyon, the Exceptional Unique Ballista. This isn't that hard to find, most any monster past Act Three in Nightmare can drop it, and it's enormously useful, due to the mammoth damage and other stats. If this were an Elite item it would be more balanced, but since the Buriza is a semi-common exceptional Xbow, and it's comparable in damage and performance to the virtually-impossible to find Elite Eaglehorn and Windforce, there is a point to be made.

Amazons using this are now so common and so powerful that they are being called Burizons, and are easily picked out in a game due to their using xbows, firing slowly, and killing everything in just a few shots.

While extremely useful for PvM, the Buriza is even more so in PvP play, used with something to slow the target, such as Cleglaw's Pinchers or Blackhorn's Face, it makes the target, once hit, virtually doomed. Many players are upset about how it's made dueling basically pointless, if there is a Bowazon with that set up in the game.

The other thing people are annoyed by is that the items needed for this are pretty easy to get, and cover up for other equipment that can be far less than ideal. To make a really successful dueling Barbarian or most other character types, all optimal equipment is required, with damage reduction and extra fast speed and high AR, etc. A Burizon can just raise her Dex and Penetrate and get some Cleglaw's Pincers and win 90% of the time by standing still and holding down the right click."

(this was published right after 1.09 came out (august 2001))