NE~Help! Ne vs Orc, Impossible to win in late game!

[hc83000]

Help! Ne vs Orc, Impossible to win in late game!

I recently played a game with NE vs ORC (I was ne) and I got owned. He massed towers and then used demolisher, I had no way of killing him.

If anyone can tell me how to win please let me know.

 

[Frost: The Angel]

Mabey if you made something called seige

Bye bye towers

And to beat demolishers, use air or mg's and a hero.

 

[Ntrik_]

*COUGH*towers have heavy armor*COUGH*

always have some DOTTs against Orc

i havent seen the replay, but heres what i do and works nice.

-Kotg harass
-fast tech to wind
-Make Hippo riders (upg, and by the time u reach tier2, u shoudl have around 4 moon wells, 2 wisp rdy to make AoWind, 7 archers and 1 AP and 1 Hunter's hall for uping)
-good, Kotg should still be harassing, now go my rider! pwn orcs~

unless ur orc is like Torubu who knew my strat and found counter, this will work. If orc do go with the counter (mass air + trolls)

answer is: mass hunts from beginning.

So it all depends on which style you'd go, asshole style like how i do it or jus mass hunts. Both of those use KotG for entangling. IT helps LOT

and know that u will lose alot of gold in mass hunts, if u were to attack the base directly. So first mass hunts, and creep jack em. Then make some archers and siege to get those towers.

 

[Torubu]

Originally posted by N_LeGeNd)
*COUGH*towers have heavy armor*COUGH*

always have some DOTTs against Orc

i havent seen the replay, but heres what i do and works nice.

-Kotg harass
-fast tech to wind
-Make Hippo riders (upg, and by the time u reach tier2, u shoudl have around 4 moon wells, 2 wisp rdy to make AoWind, 7 archers and 1 AP and 1 Hunter's hall for uping)
-good, Kotg should still be harassing, now go my rider! pwn orcs~

unless ur orc is like Torubu who knew my strat and found counter, this will work. If orc do go with the counter (mass air + trolls)

answer is: mass hunts from beginning.

So it all depends on which style you'd go, asshole style like how i do it or jus mass hunts. Both of those use KotG for entangling. IT helps LOT

and know that u will lose alot of gold in mass hunts, if u were to attack the base directly. So first mass hunts, and creep jack em. Then make some archers and siege to get those towers.

Yeah, that was pretty sad because I went with Berserker/Bat Rider/Kodo against you.

I suggest against Orc, none other than the Beastmaster. His hawks counter demolishers pretty well. Keep wisps at lumber all around the possible tower locations, if you see a peon, hit there asap. Stick with an Archer/DoTT build. Remember, Cyclone can win the game for you, alone.

 

[Ntrik_]

p.s. mass hunts works too, i saw showtime's replay, he won without getting any units killed

also yes BM is good, sux tho i never used it

lol that'd be funny.. mass dotts + MGs... some archers for air

 

[Torubu]

Originally posted by N_LeGeNd)
p.s. mass hunts works too, i saw showtime's replay, he won without getting any units killed

also yes BM is good, sux tho i never used it

lol that'd be funny.. mass dotts + MGs... some archers for air

Showtime also outmicroes anybody on this site by over 100%.

 

[Andrew]

ever try chims? all ui said he had towers and demos..

 

[FuzzzyLing]

Chims work..

 

[Andrew]

Yeah man, chims can own towers and they can attack from afar, so they don't get harmed by the towers.

 

[thegame]

Very true, chims do own but that is tier3.
The main problem against orc is gruntapult. Hard to counter unless you surprise the enemy with air.

 

[Ntrik_]

Originally posted by thegame
Very true, chims do own but that is tier3.
The main problem against orc is gruntapult. Hard to counter unless you surprise the enemy with air.

Not really, gruntapult is nerfed now, and you can actually beat it with Kotg (level 3) and mass hunts! Just run around to avoid catapults and entangle grunts!

Or like you said, surprise with air

 

[Andrew]

You can get an expansion and tech there, then when he looks at your base, he won't see what you are actually doing in the backround.

 

[thegame]

Yeah that is quite effective.. a bit risky though unless you got a few towers to defend you expansion.