My new Computer

IceDevil9 · Jul 13, 2004

WQ87 · Jul 13, 2004

-Socket A processor will not fit in a Socket 754 motherboard. You might want to change that.

-You might want to think about the Video Card... although, it's a good card, it is a fricken beast putting out alot of heat. My bro has the same exact card and he can tell you the story.

-If you are building this comp for games (i assume you are) then i suggest ram that runs at Cas 2.5 instead of 3.

ShaftedTwice · Jul 13, 2004

-They have a 160GB Hard Drive at Newegg for the same price.

@WQ87: What about 9600 Pro 256MB for the vid card, i was planning on that for mine?

WQ87 · Jul 13, 2004

9600 Pro aren't that bad. They are good budget cards. Try getting a 128mb instead of a 256mb. None of the last generation cards are even fast enough for the 256mb of ram (excluding the 9800xt and 5950u).

ShaftedTwice · Jul 13, 2004

Meaning that i wont need the excess 128mb or what?

WQ87 · Jul 13, 2004

Yes, it's useless. Get the 128mb as it is also cheaper than the 256mb.

x42bn6 · Jul 14, 2004

For the next generation, you might want to get 256MB though.

Forged, split your post yourself, lazy boy.

icastbigspells · Jul 14, 2004

I prefer intergrated on motherboard and since that motherboard has it already intergrated why get sound card and get a 9800 cause probably about 4weeks there gonna come out with another better vid card and prices will lower and the case you could probably get a good case like that for alot cheaper

IceDevil9 · Jul 14, 2004

Like I said, this is my first ever computer built, and I got some help from my buddies in my DoD clan, and thanks for the tips guys, keep em' comin'

EDIT: I fixed my first post with the new links, for a new mobo, processor, and Hard Drive.

-Frank

WQ87 · Jul 14, 2004

Originally posted by x42bn6
For the next generation, you might want to get 256MB though.

Forged, split your post yourself, lazy boy.

The cards of this generation are fast enough to run 256mb-512mb, but are quite pricey.

Originally posted by icastbigspells
I prefer intergrated on motherboard and since that motherboard has it already intergrated why get sound card and get a 9800 cause probably about 4weeks there gonna come out with another better vid card and prices will lower and the case you could probably get a good case like that for alot cheaper

Integrated are not always good; Video uses a big chunk of your ram while Sound uses some processor speed, thus can degrade performance and creates a bottleneck known as lag.

Originally posted by IceDevil9
Like I said, this is my first ever computer built, and I got some help from my buddies in my DoD clan, and thanks for the tips guys, keep em' comin'

EDIT: I fixed my first post with the new links, for a new mobo, processor, and Hard Drive.

-Frank

You didn't have to change the Hard Drive. 15000 rpm is god speed! Whatever floats your boat.

jd-inflames · Jul 14, 2004

WQ pretty much handled what I was going to say about integration...it's normally easier, but it will take away from your performance, when you can get a real sound card with it's own SPU and can even do more for you...

I work with MIDI a lot so integrated is also UBER bad for me...but we are talking performance here right?

icastbigspells · Jul 14, 2004

whats your price you want to go to?

cause you can get a ati radeon 9800pro for 10 dollars more

Master.America · Jul 14, 2004

Definitely scrap the graphics card.

Go for GeforceFX 5900XT. It's not ATI (always a plus in my opinion) and it retails at $220. This one got excellent reviews and can be overclocked to extremes without difficulty. Also... are you sure you want an All-In-Wonder card? You'd probably want a Radeon if anything. AIW's are more for use with TV's and such.

icastbigspells · Jul 14, 2004

I usually get better performances out of ati

Master.America · Jul 14, 2004

Yeah, but Radeon's pro cards are terrible. From what I've heard, Nvidia's Geforce FX 5200 (and even Radeon's 9200) out-performs the 9600 Pro. The fact that he wants a AIW Pro is even worse.

ShaftedTwice · Jul 14, 2004

hmm.. i think thats a load of bs. show proof and ill believe you. (the 9200)

icastbigspells · Jul 14, 2004

well duh 9600 are some old cards they have 9700 9800 now 800xt

Master.America · Jul 14, 2004

In that case, he'd probably want this card. This one actually looks pretty good for its price. It's a 9800, not a Pro. And the x800 is the new card, it's not called 800xt.

icastbigspells · Jul 14, 2004

yaa sorry for the mistake and uhhh he would might 256mb... but is this a gaming computer though?

WQ87 · Jul 14, 2004

http://www20.graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20031229/vga-charts-03.html#unreal_tournament_2003,

Originally posted by Master_America
Definitely scrap the graphics card.

Go for GeforceFX 5900XT. It's not ATI (always a plus in my opinion) and it retails at $220. This one got excellent reviews and can be overclocked to extremes without difficulty. Also... are you sure you want an All-In-Wonder card? You'd probably want a Radeon if anything. AIW's are more for use with TV's and such.

I own both a 5900xt and a 9800 Pro. And the 9800 Pro just slaughters it with it's 8 pipelines vs 4 pipelines. The 5900xt is just a degraded version of it's expensive brother, the 5900 Ultra.

Originally posted by Master_America
Yeah, but Radeon's pro cards are terrible. From what I've heard, Nvidia's Geforce FX 5200 (and even Radeon's 9200) out-performs the 9600 Pro. The fact that he wants a AIW Pro is even worse.

You heard wrong. The FX 5200 can not even beat a old GeForce 4 Ti4200, so in no way it can beat a 9600 Pro. Take a look at the link i posted, the 9600 Pro slaughters half the FX series.

But the fact a 5200 owns a 9200 is true.

You see, the nVidia's FX series (last generation) are just a joke. They were meant to be better than the 2 year old 9700 Pro yet half the series couldn't even surpass a 9500 Pro. nVidia proudly admit what they did wrong (Shown here) after the GeForce 6800 finally beat a 9800xt.Link

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