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Yep! You saw the topic heading and image! This is no where near a serious discussion. In fact, it's more of a "tongue-in-cheek" thread. You will find this to be either very worthless or very eye-opening. I will find this thread vastly ignored, in the response area at least.

*cough* With out further delay, I direct your attention to the topic of this "thread" within the Arcane Santuary.



Where have all the good topics gone? Where have the thoughtful discussions gone? I pose this question as it seems we have lost the initial purpose of the AS in a massive flood of "god versus gays", "gay? natural versut social", and base discussions on the "black- or white- ness" of any god's existance. There is little to no variety in choices of topic creation, and any who bring in intelligent light are either immediately ignored or bashed.

I'm sure some are asking if I'm being arrogant and talking about myself. Have discussions I've brought to the table been ignored? Duh. That's not the problem. The problem is that people continually repeat the same thing over and over again believe it to eventually change the mind of whom they speak to. The problem is that half of some arguements are left by the wayside.

These are common propaganda techniques, and this includes when Germans (WWI) were called "monsters" and punished misserably for starting the massive war and when the Nazis called Jews nothing more than "dogs" or "pigs" (adding insult to injury) that were dirty and not even human. You note my rather "salt-in-wound" insult to some of your arguementive styles? You'd have to read between the lines to get that -- I tend to do that.

That is another issue. One cannot write properly without learning how to say hidden messages. This goes double for reading properly. It is imperitive, especially in writing and reading, that one be able to find the hidden message. It is most of the base arguement.

Do I digress? Some may think that, but look back and think on what has been said so far. It's all on topic, but some may notice that the order is off. The paragraph order could be better chosen, and I'm doing this quite on purpose. I shall now get to a rather interesting point.

Arguing "black versus white" requires scientific evidence that no human could possibly gather, even if given millions of years. What proof do we have that anything that anyone is saying is absolute? It is scary how often evidence points towards both points of view being correct. What I find intriguing, and quite boring, is that there seems to be a mass movement in creating such topics.



I'll give you all a clue. I'll also do this with little or no hidden message. Science is the pursuit of knowledge, not the absolution of it. Once something is absolute, it becomes history. If you'll notice, no scientist has yet to propose that evolution, dinosaurs, or method of universal creation be put into historical writing. Nay! We must remember that science is a pursuit. If you remember that, maybe you'll be able to get some headway in actually discussing rather than arguing.

That is all.



Later! I'm out!
~~BAM the DOC
 

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I agree completely, I was discussing this yesterday with spike (though not as eloquently ;)). It is sad, I would love to see more varied discussions. The problem is that most users (on this wonderful gaming forum) don't have biblical theology or quantum physics as their forte. As a result, you aren't going to see the depths of the Bible being plunged, nor are you going to see a lot of well-informed responses with scientific backgrounds. Instead, as you pointed out, you will generally see the fuzzy middle of it all, where everything is somewhere in the realm of common knowledge. It's sad. I know.

(I would also add that science is a pursuit of knowledge, yes, but it is also that which has already been sought after and discovered. Of course we know things, but the problem is where the necessary axioms become truths, this is where you can say "science can never solve something absolutely.")
 

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I agree with you, Bam...thats sorta the reason why I've just been lurking around of late...half the topics in the Arcane Sanctuary right now have already been discussed before(esp the whole religion vs. homosexuality thing)...and most of the topics arent conducive to discussion (e.g. the topic "Do you believe in God?"...there's just no argumentative potential there)...

I joined battleforums to start off with because of my interest in one of the topics here at the Arcane Sanctuary (if memory serves, it was a topic on Music by Raya WolfSun)
 

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I agree, I would love to see more physics arguments (e.g. string theory, relativity, quantum mechanics).
 

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[glow=red]If you would like to see it then go make it, the variety of topics is only depended on us.[/glow]
 

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topics in the realm of physics dont lend themselves to discussion. ESPECIALLY when it comes to theoretical physics. Most people here simply don't have the mathematical know how to comprehend string-theory. and sure they may be interesting, but they've all been done before...
 

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LOL @ gayness..:X

I admit it's at a stand still of discussion, but before the mass gay vs. relgion shit happened it was politics this politics that..something even more boring than religion..
 

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The main reason there arn't a lot of good topics, on quanton whatever, is because quite fankly, most of us (at the forums in a general) have yet to finish college. At least thats my take on the whole situation.
 

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Thats why this is in it's own forum with its own rules.
 

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